The Official *Asus VG259QM* Owners Thread (+ Secret Overdrive)

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Re: The Official *Asus VG259QM* Owners Thread (+ Secret Overdrive)

Post by Anonymous125698 » 17 Jan 2022, 01:55

I want to share something I found in terms the overdrive behavior(again), it's not really a new thing but makes me wonder some things. Why does rtings recommend OD60 for 280HZ when OD40 has better response times with also no overshoot?

https://i.rtings.com/assets/pages/bM6yQ ... -large.jpg

https://i.rtings.com/assets/pages/bM6yQ ... -large.jpg

What I notice too when I set the OD on 280Hz to 40 is that the input lag gets lower too, this makes sense as the better the response time is, the lower the input lag is. And when I set the shadow boost to 2 as recommended by axaro1 on other configurations, the response time gets even better and input lag lower.

Sorry I don't have a camera to proof this but you can see it clearly in the moving photo of Quebec city when switching between OD60 and OD40, that the OD40 has better clarity, look at the top building with the green roof for example when switching between OD60 and OD40.

I'm now using these settings that I described, OD40 280Hz and shadow boost 2, it gives very clear motion without overshoot and I'd like to hear from others experiences.

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Re: The Official *Asus VG259QM* Owners Thread (+ Secret Overdrive)

Post by MatrixQW » 17 Jan 2022, 14:43

I don't own this monitor but it caught my attention because it has 0 overshoot whereas VG279QM has some (faster response time at the cost of overshoot).

Anonymous125698 wrote:
17 Jan 2022, 01:55
Why does rtings recommend OD60 for 280HZ when OD40 has better response times with also no overshoot?
The dark average is slightly better at OD40 but OD60 end% 60/80/100 is lower overall and that might translate into a better picture, wich seems to be the case with their logo.

https://i.rtings.com/assets/pages/bM6yQ ... -large.jpg
https://i.rtings.com/assets/pages/bM6yQ ... -large.jpg
What I notice too when I set the OD on 280Hz to 40 is that the input lag gets lower too, this makes sense as the better the response time is, the lower the input lag is.
Response time is the time it takes for a pixel to switch from one color to another. Causes blur. Lowering it won't change input lag time.
Input lag is the time a picture takes to appear.
They are different things.
Sorry I don't have a camera to proof this but you can see it clearly in the moving photo of Quebec city when switching between OD60 and OD40, that the OD40 has better clarity, look at the top building with the green roof for example when switching between OD60 and OD40.
Maybe it depends on the colors. The roof is smaller and has different colors. Their logo is clearer with OD60.
Try the UFO ghosting test and look at the two feet to see wich setting blurs the most.

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Re: The Official *Asus VG259QM* Owners Thread (+ Secret Overdrive)

Post by Anonymous125698 » 18 Jan 2022, 02:35

MatrixQW wrote:
17 Jan 2022, 14:43
I don't own this monitor but it caught my attention because it has 0 overshoot whereas VG279QM has some (faster response time at the cost of overshoot).

Anonymous125698 wrote:
17 Jan 2022, 01:55
Why does rtings recommend OD60 for 280HZ when OD40 has better response times with also no overshoot?
The dark average is slightly better at OD40 but OD60 end% 60/80/100 is lower overall and that might translate into a better picture, wich seems to be the case with their logo.

https://i.rtings.com/assets/pages/bM6yQ ... -large.jpg
https://i.rtings.com/assets/pages/bM6yQ ... -large.jpg
What I notice too when I set the OD on 280Hz to 40 is that the input lag gets lower too, this makes sense as the better the response time is, the lower the input lag is.
Response time is the time it takes for a pixel to switch from one color to another. Causes blur. Lowering it won't change input lag time.
Input lag is the time a picture takes to appear.
They are different things.
Sorry I don't have a camera to proof this but you can see it clearly in the moving photo of Quebec city when switching between OD60 and OD40, that the OD40 has better clarity, look at the top building with the green roof for example when switching between OD60 and OD40.
Maybe it depends on the colors. The roof is smaller and has different colors. Their logo is clearer with OD60.
Try the UFO ghosting test and look at the two feet to see wich setting blurs the most.
Well on my unit the OD40 has better clarity compared to to OD60 and that's just how it is, maybe panel lottery. And when you lower the response time, it does decrease input lag, this is true as said by the guy in Hardware Unboxed channel who reviews all the monitors in their LG C1 48 inch OLED review, that "This oled competes with best lcds in terms of total input lag as transition times are lighting fast" the LG C1 48" oled has only 6ms of input lag where as the next fastest monitor on their list is the HP Omen 27" 240Hz TN panel. Soo yeah, lower response times mean lower input lag. And the whole picture is actually clearer, not just the roof.

And it also would help if you owned the monitor as this is the owners thread after all.

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Re: The Official *Asus VG259QM* Owners Thread (+ Secret Overdrive)

Post by jimiih » 21 Jan 2022, 10:14

''OD120 is achievable by entering the service menu ( press the power button and hold menu (5-way), then press menu again and it will pop up on top left, there will be a small "F" for the service menu, click on it)''

When I press power button the monitor shuts down, what am I doing wrong?

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Re: The Official *Asus VG259QM* Owners Thread (+ Secret Overdrive)

Post by svatt » 22 Jan 2022, 16:33

Hi is it normal that i set my monitor in osd to 280hz but when i open osd in csgo it says its only 278hz or in leauge of legends its only 240hz(i fixed it by putting league to borderless mode because fullscreen in league displays only native hz) is there any way to fix it?

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Post by de3pster » 25 Jan 2022, 01:50

I'm not sure if it is just my monitor, but when I do the UFO ghosting test on 280hz, the screen feels laggy and stutters quite a bit, but when I use 240hz it looks a lot smoother. Do you guys experience this as well, or is it just my panel? I am running 120OD. Or does if matter if I'm on GPU or Display scaling, as I'm using a GTX 980 which is pretty old.

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Re: The Official *Asus VG259QM* Owners Thread (+ Secret Overdrive)

Post by DarkLord1337 » 25 Jan 2022, 19:24

Hi. I want to add 280hz 1440x1152 (5:4) res in cru. i tried doing exact reduced but it says out of range. what should i do? btw in detailed res fhd 280hz is 279.857hz there i tried the same for my 5:4 res. Can someone tell me how can i use 280hz 1440x1152? thx

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Re: The Official *Asus VG259QM* Owners Thread (+ Secret Overdrive)

Post by axaro1 » 26 Jan 2022, 09:49

DarkLord1337 wrote:
25 Jan 2022, 19:24
Hi. I want to add 280hz 1440x1152 (5:4) res in cru. i tried doing exact reduced but it says out of range. what should i do? btw in detailed res fhd 280hz is 279.857hz there i tried the same for my 5:4 res. Can someone tell me how can i use 280hz 1440x1152? thx
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1920x1080 with 2040HT and 1100VT at 280hz is already borderline edging the maximum Pixel Clock and it's stock.
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Re: The Official *Asus VG259QM* Owners Thread (+ Secret Overdrive)

Post by DarkLord1337 » 26 Jan 2022, 11:06

axaro1 wrote:
26 Jan 2022, 09:49
DarkLord1337 wrote:
25 Jan 2022, 19:24
Hi. I want to add 280hz 1440x1152 (5:4) res in cru. i tried doing exact reduced but it says out of range. what should i do? btw in detailed res fhd 280hz is 279.857hz there i tried the same for my 5:4 res. Can someone tell me how can i use 280hz 1440x1152? thx
why would you use that? You are clearly exceeding Pixel Clock, I can barely increase VT by 5 before going out of range, even by lowering HT.

1920x1080 with 2040HT and 1100VT at 280hz is already borderline edging the maximum Pixel Clock and it's stock.
I want to use that coz 1280x1024 res is not enough for me in long distance fights in cs go and i want my crosshair to be smaller on higher res but have the same contrast coz of thick outline. anyway why i want it is irrelevant i just need to have it. so this monitor can use fhd 280hz but cant 1480x1152 280hz? Im not an expert in this so i must not understand something. what is the highest 5:4 res higher than 1280x1024 i can use with 280hz on this monitor and how can i set it in cru?

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Re: The Official *Asus VG259QM* Owners Thread (+ Secret Overdrive)

Post by axaro1 » 26 Jan 2022, 13:18

DarkLord1337 wrote:
26 Jan 2022, 11:06
I want to use that coz 1280x1024 res is not enough for me in long distance fights in cs go and i want my crosshair to be smaller on higher res but have the same contrast coz of thick outline. anyway why i want it is irrelevant i just need to have it. so this monitor can use fhd 280hz but cant 1480x1152 280hz? Im not an expert in this so i must not understand something. what is the highest 5:4 res higher than 1280x1024 i can use with 280hz on this monitor and how can i set it in cru?
I misunderstood your settings, my bad.

I recommend you to copy the 1920x1080 280hz profile in CRU and paste it, change resolution to 1280x1024 and try with those timings, if it doesn't work you can start by reducing your timings, forcing "Exact Reduced" could be a starting point to work your way up, if it does work you can slowly increase VT to climb your way up to match 620/630MHz pixel clock so you can reduce latency a little bit further.

If it works right after changing resolution to 1280x1024 you can immediately start cranking up VT until it goes out of range.

I don't know what a scaler like the NT68415 is capable of but I assume that 1280x1024 should be doable, if you still have issues I can try to test some resolutions on my unit and share my timings if I manage to make it work.
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