Asus PG259QN 360hz Monitor

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TN_fun
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Re: Asus PG259QN 360hz Monitor

Post by TN_fun » 10 Sep 2020, 17:02

This is a joke guys. All you need to know is this photo.
https://youtu.be/tsB9G4eRokU?t=334
In fact it cannot 360Hz. See how much blur on the circles.

ulmb good only on 144Hz
https://youtu.be/tsB9G4eRokU?t=756

360Hz ips - marketing , need to wait for fast TN panel

LikeableSloth
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Re: Asus PG259QN 360hz Monitor

Post by LikeableSloth » 10 Sep 2020, 19:06

TN_fun wrote:
10 Sep 2020, 17:02
This is a joke guys. All you need to know is this photo.
https://youtu.be/tsB9G4eRokU?t=334
In fact it cannot 360Hz. See how much blur on the circles.

ulmb good only on 144Hz
https://youtu.be/tsB9G4eRokU?t=756

360Hz ips - marketing , need to wait for fast TN panel

Compare it to the best zowie at 240hz tn dyac+ and your getting instead of CT you get blur instead at the sane equivalent strength so its the same in that regard. the outstanding SRGB out og the box so you can see people in game and not have to spend $150 on a calibration and the lower RT its a win to the 360hz for sure plus 360hz will always beat 240hz in a reaction test, man im pissed i wanted zowie to release something better than just a stand update but they let us down big time its going to take them a year at least to release something to go against these new 360hz monitors

Stevie66
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Re: Asus PG259QN 360hz Monitor

Post by Stevie66 » 10 Sep 2020, 20:08

3 more 360hz monitor tests to go, who will have the best tuned monitor :)
Looks like the MSI will cost $100(if this Asus one does cost $700 instead of $800) more than the rest and 1 year less warranty, not surprising

purplew
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Re: Asus PG259QN 360hz Monitor

Post by purplew » 10 Sep 2020, 22:43

I don't really understand these measurements, because it's true that TN 240hz ufo tests like the XL2546 or Omen x25 look better / less blurrier even without dyac/+ than the IPS 240hz alternatives, and even this 360Hz IPS still looks kinda blurry altho it has a 2.2ms g2g and only 3% overshoot. What does 2.2ms g2g even mean if it's blurrier in motion? I don't get it.

Conan
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Re: Asus PG259QN 360hz Monitor

Post by Conan » 11 Sep 2020, 01:29

why are you pissed for zowie not releasing "something better" than just a stand update?
dude, its so freakin obvious that 360hz improvement over 240hz dyac+ is non-existent tbh.
none of them compared 360hz to 240hz dyac+ yet. NONE OF THEM.
and when they do compare it side by side, you will see if you will be disappointed in the 360hz or in the zowie for not releasing something better.
they don't wanna compete with something new when their latest release competes just fine. not just fine imo, it freakin obliterates them.
i've been playing on TN forever. i played on IPS and tbh, the color accuracy is really not that big of a deal. since i tweak color vibrance in most of my games.
and after tweaking for regular use, its really not that bad for anything else, you just get used to it rather quickly.
as for viewing angles...the most idiotic reason for buying ips over tn if its for single use.
its not 90's anymore so i dont have a friend over at my place sitting next to me watching me play games. i play games alone KEKW.

RLCSContender*
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Re: Asus PG259QN 360hz Monitor

Post by RLCSContender* » 11 Sep 2020, 10:01

https://blurbusters.com/gtg-versus-mprt ... -response/

I suggest you guys read this very good article about MPRT and G2G.

A 360hz monitor will have less motion blur because there's less persistence image retention. You guys have MPRT confused with changes from one end of grey(black) to the other end of grey (white). g2g is generally responsible for asymmetrical blur, not motion blur(although g2g can affect motion blur).

TN may have a grey to grey advantage but what good is that "G2G" if there are intermittent bars synonymous to TN technology called Pixel inversion artifacts. IPS has pixel inversion but it's easily fixable but for TN technology, Pixel inversion artifacts are synonymous with it.

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this monitor will crush ANY TN or any 360hz monitor with inverse ghosting coronas when it comes to motion clarity

the review is coming up very soon in my mega thread

iopq
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Re: Asus PG259QN 360hz Monitor

Post by iopq » 11 Sep 2020, 13:19

RLCScontender wrote:
10 Sep 2020, 16:38
that looks like a pile of dog****. Also, most reviewers don't show proof of in practice results and they make claims such as "it's only 3% overshoot guyz, u won't see it in practice"
I agree with you on the overshoot, my VG259QM with 60 is just fine, even though it's supposed to have blur
but when I set it to 80 it was like THICC coronas around the UFO

But I don't notice any motion blur at 240Hz or 280Hz even though it's not 100% compliance

That said... are we getting a review?

Stevie66
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Re: Asus PG259QN 360hz Monitor

Post by Stevie66 » 11 Sep 2020, 13:43

iopq wrote:
11 Sep 2020, 13:19
RLCScontender wrote:
10 Sep 2020, 16:38
that looks like a pile of dog****. Also, most reviewers don't show proof of in practice results and they make claims such as "it's only 3% overshoot guyz, u won't see it in practice"
I agree with you on the overshoot, my VG259QM with 60 is just fine, even though it's supposed to have blur
but when I set it to 80 it was like THICC coronas around the UFO

But I don't notice any motion blur at 240Hz or 280Hz even though it's not 100% compliance

That said... are we getting a review?
If 80 OD is too much people here mentioned OD 120 is the best setting for 240-280hz

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Re: Asus PG259QN 360hz Monitor

Post by RLCSContender* » 11 Sep 2020, 18:10

@iopq

Ghosting is MPRT protected, inverse ghosting is not MPRT protected.. I will elaborate more on this when i review the vg259qm, mag251rx, and alienware aw2521HFL

keep in mind, my criteria of what i find as "good motion clarity" maybe different from another person.


i don't speak for everyone because everyone has different criteria on what they find acceptable or unacceptable. I'm a semi sponsored esports professional so i need the least amount of unwanted artifacts as possible to give me that small edge above the best players in the world. But for most casual gamers, what I find "unacceptable" maybe "acceptable" to another person and vice versa.

my OD recommendation for the vg259qm is OD 60. There's no inverse ghosting and it's tuned in a way where ghosting ends but BEFORE overshoot begin. Out of thousands of in practice tests and reviewing different monitors. I saw patterns over time. The patterns that i noticed was that the monitor with ZERO overshoot and black level smearing gave the best motion clarity.

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Re: Asus PG259QN 360hz Monitor

Post by LikeableSloth » 11 Sep 2020, 22:24

Conan wrote:
11 Sep 2020, 01:29
why are you pissed for zowie not releasing "something better" than just a stand update?
dude, its so freakin obvious that 360hz improvement over 240hz dyac+ is non-existent tbh.
none of them compared 360hz to 240hz dyac+ yet. NONE OF THEM.
and when they do compare it side by side, you will see if you will be disappointed in the 360hz or in the zowie for not releasing something better.
they don't wanna compete with something new when their latest release competes just fine. not just fine imo, it freakin obliterates them.
i've been playing on TN forever. i played on IPS and tbh, the color accuracy is really not that big of a deal. since i tweak color vibrance in most of my games.
and after tweaking for regular use, its really not that bad for anything else, you just get used to it rather quickly.
as for viewing angles...the most idiotic reason for buying ips over tn if its for single use.
its not 90's anymore so i dont have a friend over at my place sitting next to me watching me play games. i play games alone KEKW.

Literally I took two chrome tabs of one alien speed test of the Zowie and one of the asus and went back and forth picking them apart and the Asus had the worst smearing from black but it still looks better than 240 dyac. If you want to watch movies on a TN or YouTube go right ahead man i didn't mention the IPS angles? But I literally have my girlfriends desk next to mine so for my use case it's better so we can see better image as we're playing valorant ect.


Tldr the 360hz looks better ,better colours faster response time, better angles? I don't see the point in the current 240hz dyac+ and I was about to literally order one for myself as it had the best motion clarity IMO

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