Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by Chillen » 01 Nov 2020, 11:43

Ok thank you. I did notice that post after I submitted mine. The Chief mentioned that you will need a newer gpu for higher refresh rates. I just found it odd that it did allow 300 but not 360.

The text issue only happens at 300hz. When I switch to 240hz, everything looks fine. It's hard to capture this on camera but maybe I can try. It's almost like uneven color throughout the text. Really weird. I wonder if a new gpu will fix this as well.

Overdrive is set to normal and yes you would think you would see this while the text is in motion because of artifacts or overshoot but that's not the case. The text is static and I see it.

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 01 Nov 2020, 11:59

Chillen wrote:
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Is this problem because I am still on the GTX 970? Any information or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
It is the 970. You might be able to get 360 Hz working at reduced blankings or slightly lower resolution via ToastyX CRU.

I think it's the pixel clock bandwidth budget. It was high enough to allow 300, but not 360. If you lower resolution and create a new mode by ToastyX, you might be able to test 360.

I would recommend a newer GPU, however.

For reliably capturing overdrive artifacts, you need a pursuit camera technique. Pan the camera at the same speed as the text. Or better yet, use www.testufo.com/ghosting .... We have a Pursuit Camera forum for pursuit camera newbies, including the iPhone instructions.
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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by Chillen » 01 Nov 2020, 13:30

Thank you!

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by jorimt » 01 Nov 2020, 14:36

Chillen wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 11:43
The text issue only happens at 300hz. When I switch to 240hz, everything looks fine. It's hard to capture this on camera but maybe I can try. It's almost like uneven color throughout the text. Really weird. I wonder if a new gpu will fix this as well.
You're probably only getting 4:2:0 or 4:2:2 instead of the full 4:4:4 color chroma at that refresh rate due to the same bandwidth limitation. So yes, a new GPU should fix this too.
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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by STOPchris » 03 Nov 2020, 18:22

Do these 360Hz IPS monitors get image retention like the current 240Hz IPS monitors?

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by Ogmilkman » 03 Nov 2020, 19:36

STOPchris wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 18:22
Do these 360Hz IPS monitors get image retention like the current 240Hz IPS monitors?
How do you know the current 240Hz IPS monitors have image retention issues? At least according to rtings reviews there isn't anything notable.

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 03 Nov 2020, 20:42

Ogmilkman wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 19:36
How do you know the current 240Hz IPS monitors have image retention issues? At least according to rtings reviews there isn't anything notable.
It only happens with emulator-based software black frame insertion at even-numbered divisors of 60, and it also happens to many 240Hz TN panels too.
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Do these 360Hz IPS monitors get image retention like the current 240Hz IPS monitors?
The temporary image retention (static electricity from defeated LCD voltage inversion electronics during even-numbered flicker patterns) doesn’t show if you use the new RetroArch 180Hz software BFI mode for emulators. TN panels are also prone to this, too.

Unless you run emulator BFI, don’t worry about the temporary image retention effect.
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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by STOPchris » 03 Nov 2020, 21:14

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 20:42
Ogmilkman wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 19:36
How do you know the current 240Hz IPS monitors have image retention issues? At least according to rtings reviews there isn't anything notable.
It only happens with emulator-based software black frame insertion at even-numbered divisors of 60, and it also happens to many 240Hz TN panels too.
STOPchris wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 18:22
Do these 360Hz IPS monitors get image retention like the current 240Hz IPS monitors?
The temporary image retention (static electricity from defeated LCD voltage inversion electronics during even-numbered flicker patterns) doesn’t show if you use the new RetroArch 180Hz software BFI mode for emulators. TN panels are also prone to this, too.

Unless you run emulator BFI, don’t worry about the temporary image retention effect.
Wait, are you talking about strobe back lights? I don't run my monitor in this mode? Also, I really have never seen this issue in ANY other monitor that I have ever used besides the XB253Q.

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by Stevie66 » 03 Nov 2020, 21:27

STOPchris wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 21:14
Chief Blur Buster wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 20:42
Ogmilkman wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 19:36
How do you know the current 240Hz IPS monitors have image retention issues? At least according to rtings reviews there isn't anything notable.
It only happens with emulator-based software black frame insertion at even-numbered divisors of 60, and it also happens to many 240Hz TN panels too.
STOPchris wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 18:22
Do these 360Hz IPS monitors get image retention like the current 240Hz IPS monitors?
The temporary image retention (static electricity from defeated LCD voltage inversion electronics during even-numbered flicker patterns) doesn’t show if you use the new RetroArch 180Hz software BFI mode for emulators. TN panels are also prone to this, too.

Unless you run emulator BFI, don’t worry about the temporary image retention effect.
Wait, are you talking about strobe back lights? I don't run my monitor in this mode? Also, I really have never seen this issue in ANY other monitor that I have ever used besides the XB253Q.
You mean that weird retention issue that just pops up on static images and goes away and comes back if you change tabs and return? I forget the name something like pixel inversion artifacts but it seems to plague some of the 24" 240hz monitors, I had it on my Alienware and random images made it have a retention and vertical lines but went away when I closed the image or tab. I too wonder if the 360hz's can get it too as it was definitely a hardware problem.

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by STOPchris » 03 Nov 2020, 22:09

Stevie66 wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 21:27
STOPchris wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 21:14
Chief Blur Buster wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 20:42
Ogmilkman wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 19:36
How do you know the current 240Hz IPS monitors have image retention issues? At least according to rtings reviews there isn't anything notable.
It only happens with emulator-based software black frame insertion at even-numbered divisors of 60, and it also happens to many 240Hz TN panels too.
STOPchris wrote:
03 Nov 2020, 18:22
Do these 360Hz IPS monitors get image retention like the current 240Hz IPS monitors?
The temporary image retention (static electricity from defeated LCD voltage inversion electronics during even-numbered flicker patterns) doesn’t show if you use the new RetroArch 180Hz software BFI mode for emulators. TN panels are also prone to this, too.

Unless you run emulator BFI, don’t worry about the temporary image retention effect.
Wait, are you talking about strobe back lights? I don't run my monitor in this mode? Also, I really have never seen this issue in ANY other monitor that I have ever used besides the XB253Q.
You mean that weird retention issue that just pops up on static images and goes away and comes back if you change tabs and return? I forget the name something like pixel inversion artifacts but it seems to plague some of the 24" 240hz monitors, I had it on my Alienware and random images made it have a retention and vertical lines but went away when I closed the image or tab. I too wonder if the 360hz's can get it too as it was definitely a hardware problem.
Mine sticks around for a while. When I played RE3 remake, the item menu sticks around for a while. Only time gets rid of it. I got it once from editing categories in Playnite. It also has the vertical lines and sometimes flickers while it is having the issue. Let me guess, all of the panels with this issue are from the Acer company, AU Optronics? Here is a picture of mine (it went away eventually):
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