Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by 74tm » 09 Jan 2021, 09:56

Stevie66 wrote:
08 Jan 2021, 20:06
Keep releasing these weird hz, just give us the 480hz already heh
Its probably uses the same or similar panel, just overclocked.

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by AddictFPS » 09 Jan 2021, 13:14

More frequency is allways welcome, but 360Hz is crazy fast, much more than some players think, much more than current GtG can take full advantage. GtG bottleneck is the "brake" than cause not enjoy "True" 360Hz experience. I think the priority of players right now, would be claim panel manufacturers a new technology capable of improve GtG to a level where only is needed a small fraction of refresh cicle to reach 100% stable color target.

Even on this amazing last generation IPS gaming LCD, response time is far away of take full advantage of 360Hz. Not only can't fit inside refresh cicle, continually surpasses it. There are one refresh cicle each 2.77ms, but PG259QN raw speed, 100% overdrive artifacts free, the fastest total response time is 5.4ms (40-0), this is almost double than the refresh cicle.

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During all refresh cicle time, pixels are transitioning from one color to another, a non stop blurryness. Only can reach target color if two cicles draw the same color, and this is in the best cases, going to black. In the worst case 13.7ms (0-40), is needed almost 5 refresh cicles.

Non-strobed (blurryness, ghosting, smearing) and strobed (crosstalk, input lag) can't be fixed if the bottleneck is not solved. Currently there are techs than can do it ? Yes

1) Blue Phase LCD claim under milisecond GtG. Research state.

2) OLED. LG TV is in stores. LG monitor announced at CES 2021. Steady 1 milisecond except going from 0 to X, because ramp-up from Off state to On, takes much more than GtG, and add overshoot, at least in this panel.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/48-cx-oled

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9ms spikes in theory can be solved setting RGB 0-0-0 to show 1-1-1, assuming no true black.

Burn-in phantom is around ! What you prefer for your 360+Hz monitor: OLED GtG-100% (0.9-1.3) with bunr-in risk, or LCD GtG-100% (5.4-13.7) ?

If we not have the OLED 360+Hz to compare it, see image quality, motion handling, burn-in wear speed along time, where blind to take this decission.

3) MicroLED, in stores this year in the high end TV market. Claim under microsecond GtG. Not have the OLED burn-in issue. Ramp-up ? Specs optimal for eSports.

OLED to desktop has the Burn-in phantom, but MicroLED not, this should result in a expensive monitor if is released before mass production. But no other drawbacks to use this tech for Desktop when pixels size is enought small for 24.5" FHD. With mass production prices go down fast. I remenber the first 110" Samsung LCD TV, at release cost 150K USD, the same of current MicroLED 110"

If people massively claim its interested, but only at decent price of course, maybe result in accelerated mass production development.

https://www.androidauthority.com/micro- ... ed-805148/
OLED panels already boasts very high response times in the µs (microsecond) range. However, MicroLED can reduce this down into ns (nanoseconds) or a thousand times faster.
Imagine your 360+Hz eSports monitor with one of these steady sub-milisecond GtG-100% techs. They can jump to 1000Hz and still are inside refresh cicle. Is mandatory for eSports !

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by Metalapocalype » 27 Jan 2021, 19:30

My experince is - I give up PG259QNR, wait for it from when they presented in start of 2020, and such a dissapoint. Back to Razer Raptor. First I dont like picture, but ok its 1080p after 2k, and colors maybe calibrated correct but I mostly use esport gsync profile with artefacts on black/white. But this all ok, I may adapt for it.

But how to play in competitive games on that monitor with that massive ghosting effect when you flicker? Or I do something wrong? Test in CS:GO with G sync/Fixed/UMBR (with this picture and feeling was best, but not 360hz)

p.s. I try OD on monitor all modes, on extreme effect make worse.

So its ok or I use it something wrong?

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by ms.potatoe » 28 Jan 2021, 14:03

Metalapocalype wrote:
27 Jan 2021, 19:30
My experince is - I give up PG259QNR, wait for it from when they presented in start of 2020, and such a dissapoint. Back to Razer Raptor. First I dont like picture, but ok its 1080p after 2k, and colors maybe calibrated correct but I mostly use esport gsync profile with artefacts on black/white. But this all ok, I may adapt for it.

But how to play in competitive games on that monitor with that massive ghosting effect when you flicker? Or I do something wrong? Test in CS:GO with G sync/Fixed/UMBR (with this picture and feeling was best, but not 360hz)

p.s. I try OD on monitor all modes, on extreme effect make worse.

So its ok or I use it something wrong?
IMO. When I tried it a few weeks ago I had a similar experience. Everything in fast movements is a bit blurry. UFO trails are clearly visible in game. 360Hz need a little more time to improve GtG.

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by Blupio » 04 Feb 2021, 22:16

When my monitor arrives, what display changes should I make? Like colors and contrast and stuff. I play Siege competitively if that helps (so whats good for FPS?)

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by BTRY B 529th FA BN » 11 Feb 2021, 11:32

I've had the PG259QN bookmarked at my local Micro Center for about a month. Didn't jump on it when I had the chance, I had purchased the VG279QM which was an upgrade from my HP Omen X25f, but I ended up returning it. Checked stock again yesterday and it was still out of stock. So I decided to browse their monitors and see how many of the VG279QM they had in stock, upon sorting the search via Hz, there was a single 360Hz in stock. Unfortunately I put the PG259QNR on reserve for pick up. I mean unfortunately because of the price because it's $799, but I'm still super excited to pick this state of the art monitor up. And I thought $699 was kinda crazy, ooff.

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by Alpha » 14 Feb 2021, 00:46

Still no way into the service menu? Still loving mine. Problem free entirely.

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by CortexFPS » 14 Feb 2021, 04:13

Alpha wrote:
14 Feb 2021, 00:46
Still no way into the service menu? Still loving mine. Problem free entirely.
hello, I have a 360hz alienware, months after the purchase in which mode are you using it? Gsync, vsync, elmb etc.

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by Alpha » 14 Feb 2021, 09:05

CortexFPS wrote:
14 Feb 2021, 04:13
Alpha wrote:
14 Feb 2021, 00:46
Still no way into the service menu? Still loving mine. Problem free entirely.
hello, I have a 360hz alienware, months after the purchase in which mode are you using it? Gsync, vsync, elmb etc.
For me it depends on the game. I do not use ELMB.

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Re: Official Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Owners Thread

Post by BTRY B 529th FA BN » 14 Feb 2021, 11:16

So I just got around to setting up this monitor. On my HP Omen X 25f I was able to disable Free-Sync through the On Screen Display setup, can Gsync be disabled through the OSD? I haven't played much with the menu yet.

EDIT: also what's with Overshoot? I don't understand how that effects performance. I thought Hz was the paramount metric.

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