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Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Post by axaro1 » 22 Dec 2020, 05:04

StareX wrote:
20 Dec 2020, 16:35

Understanding from this, the XL2546K is superior to the VG259QM?
I just got the VG259QM back from the RMA center (to see if the image retention issue was stritcly caused by my specific panel) and they changed the panel to a new one.
I will soon upload 3 videos comparing:
Dyac+ vs ELMB
AMA High vs OD60
AMA High vs OD120

The tests are performed at 240hz since I can't manage to run two instances of firefox at two different refresh rates(I only have 1 computer right now, I'll try running a test with firefox and the other with Chrome, maybe I can fix this issue).
XL2566K* | XV252QF* | LG C1* | HP OMEN X 25 | XL2546K | VG259QM | XG2402 | LS24F350[RIP]
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Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Post by StareX » 22 Dec 2020, 07:22

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 00:31
StareX wrote:
21 Dec 2020, 20:28
You know what? I actually don't know what I like best, ofcourse I'd prefer both latency and clarity, though I think latency is my higher priority here as I want to be as snappy as I can.
There are many causes of low-refreshrate nausea/headaches/discomforts; they can vary from motion blur discomfort, to discomforts from stroboscopic artifacts (www.blurbusters.com/stroboscopics). Not everyone is sensitive to flicker, and gets more discomfort from the motionblur of low refresh rates. However strobing and framerate-refreshrate matching solves a lot of problems that can produce a major compensatory effect that slightly lowers the "minimum refreshrate" threshold.

There are some balanced strobe modes such as:
- 180Hz mode on BenQ XL2546
- 240Hz mode on 360Hz monitors

Be noted that 180fps @ 180Hz perfect framerate=Hz strobed has less stutters/tearing/motionblur than 350fps @ 280Hz nonstrobed

To improve fluidity with the mouse, one can use a high-DPI low-sensitivity mouse config (e.g. 1600dpi or 3200dpi) which works well in newer games that supports subpixel mouseturns, but older games sometimes go wonky (e.g. CS:GO) with that, with 800dpi working better and more consistently.

I don't think I get headaches from strobing or things like that,

I just dont know which monitor to go for XD

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Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Post by axaro1 » 22 Dec 2020, 07:53

AMA High vs OD120
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Dyac+ vs ELMB
phpBB [video]

AMA High vs OD60
phpBB [video]
XL2566K* | XV252QF* | LG C1* | HP OMEN X 25 | XL2546K | VG259QM | XG2402 | LS24F350[RIP]
*= currently owned



MONITOR: XL2566K custom VT: https://i.imgur.com/ylYkuLf.png
CPU: 5800x3d 102mhz BCLK
GPU: 3080FE undervolted
RAM: https://i.imgur.com/iwmraZB.png
MOUSE: Endgame Gear OP1 8k
KEYBOARD: Wooting 60he

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Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Post by Lucasre5 » 22 Dec 2020, 12:46

axaro1 wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 07:53
AMA High vs OD120
Dyac+ vs ELMB
AMA High vs OD60
very good these tests clarified a lot, the benq advantage is clear but in relation to the colors within the game which do you prefer?
although the image clarity is better on the benq, do you feel that the benq is also smoother or does it feel any difference to the asus?

i have an asus vg259qm and an alienwere aw2521hf and guys i'm not crazy, the ali at 240hz seems to be much smoother than the asus at 280hz. I can get a fps in the 200-240 range but even if it doesn't reach 280, the difference was not supposed to be that big. I'm still going to test the asus at 240hz but now I'm not close to it because I'm traveling. As the colors the asus is more yellowish and better in gameplay. Overdrive 60 and 120 is practically the same as fast mode in alienwere.

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Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Post by axaro1 » 22 Dec 2020, 13:40

Lucasre5 wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 12:46
axaro1 wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 07:53
AMA High vs OD120
Dyac+ vs ELMB
AMA High vs OD60
very good these tests clarified a lot, the benq advantage is clear but in relation to the colors within the game which do you prefer?
although the image clarity is better on the benq, do you feel that the benq is also smoother or does it feel any difference to the asus?
The Asus' color are definitely better especially in color reproduction and contrast however I find it easier to spot enemies with the Benq due a better implementation of Black eQ, Color Vibrance and most importantly a decent sharpness slider.

I wouldn't describe the improvement in motion clarity as smoother, both monitors are equally smooth with the Asus maybe being even smoother at 280hz but I'd say that the Benq is "clearer" and less blurry when gaming which is something I personally prioritize.

ELMB on the Asus feels more like a workaround for motion clarity meanwhile Dyac+ on the Benq feels like a QOL improvement for some specific games.

Don't get me wrong, if you need a single monitor that you can use for basically everything the Asus is probably the best choice.

If all you care about is to get the best competitive experience out of a 240hz monitor the Benq is what you are looking for.
XL2566K* | XV252QF* | LG C1* | HP OMEN X 25 | XL2546K | VG259QM | XG2402 | LS24F350[RIP]
*= currently owned



MONITOR: XL2566K custom VT: https://i.imgur.com/ylYkuLf.png
CPU: 5800x3d 102mhz BCLK
GPU: 3080FE undervolted
RAM: https://i.imgur.com/iwmraZB.png
MOUSE: Endgame Gear OP1 8k
KEYBOARD: Wooting 60he

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Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Post by steroid4sammy » 22 Dec 2020, 13:43

Hello everybody. Please understand that my english it's not so great so thank you in advance !

So I just got this monitor xl2546K, but I have some issues with it, or at least I think I have...
I will start with ufo test website. When I made some tests on testufo website with the 240hz refresh rate enabled, the first impression is good. the alien looks clear as crystal but if I make it full screen the image looks ,,trembling '' like is lagging. (I made a screenshot but in the screenshot appears clear as crystal thou )
If I go to Nvidia Control Panel and switch my resolution 1920 x 1080 to 120 hz, which it seems it's the native and maximum refresh rate (240 hz dosen't appear there to be able to be selected, so I have to select 240hz under ,,PC '' section ) and I go again on ufo test website, even in full screen the alien look as it should look like. The alien look crystal at any speed even on 3840 Pixels per second speed. So my point is that 240 hz refresh rate dosen't look as crystal as 120 refresh rate?! ...or do I miss something ?
Dyac+ is enabled on Premium
AMA is enabled on Premium

Second issue would be g-sync...I heard that xl2546k it's g-sync compatible now as well? I know that it was or it is still freesync but I read somewhere that g-sync may work too on it

I don't have much experience with this monitor or any benq monitors so I wanna know, if I need any extra software, better settings optimisation, firmware updates, or anything like that, that can improove in any way my experience with this monitor. It was pretty expensive in my country so I need to know if I miss anything... I have a second monitor Alienware AW3418DW 34 inch 120 hz ( OC) and I tested both connected on my pc....to be honest I coudn't see any substantial difference between both of them and I am a bit dissapointed.. to say like that because I thought the motion clarity will be LOT better on XL2546K than the alienware...In my opinion it should be a huge difference in competitive games between them...I don't know I just saying
Few of the games that I play: Valorant, Cs GO, Overwatch, Hunt showdown, Path of Exile, Dead by daylight and many others

Your feedback and any tips about settings, Dyac, AMA off / on would be very helpfull for me

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Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Post by Lucasre5 » 22 Dec 2020, 15:02

axaro1 wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 13:40
Lucasre5 wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 12:46
axaro1 wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 07:53
AMA High vs OD120
Dyac+ vs ELMB
AMA High vs OD60
very good these tests clarified a lot, the benq advantage is clear but in relation to the colors within the game which do you prefer?
although the image clarity is better on the benq, do you feel that the benq is also smoother or does it feel any difference to the asus?
The Asus' color are definitely better especially in color reproduction and contrast however I find it easier to spot enemies with the Benq due a better implementation of Black eQ, Color Vibrance and most importantly a decent sharpness slider.

I wouldn't describe the improvement in motion clarity as smoother, both monitors are equally smooth with the Asus maybe being even smoother at 280hz but I'd say that the Benq is "clearer" and less blurry when gaming which is something I personally prioritize.

ELMB on the Asus feels more like a workaround for motion clarity meanwhile Dyac+ on the Benq feels like a QOL improvement for some specific games.

Don't get me wrong, if you need a single monitor that you can use for basically everything the Asus is probably the best choice.

If all you care about is to get the best competitive experience out of a 240hz monitor the Benq is what you are looking for.
Thanks for the answer. It really is notorious that with benq the clarity with the pixel transition is much better with the dyac. for me ELMB is unusable because I think the brightness is low, if it were a little higher, equivalent to the brightness in the 60 I think it would be ok.

Really the sharpness with the vivid pixel on the asus is not so good because you can only use 0,25,50 and 100 but as I like high sharpness it at 50 looks a lot like the sharpness at 100 on the alienwere. The saturation of alienwere for me is the worst, asus is much more effective in FPS games but the big question that I didn't understand is that alienwere is smoother than asus, I say when moving the mouse and having that feeling of speed , I have no idea why.

I have both, one use where I study, another one is at my parents' house, but I'm thinking of exchanging asus on the benq for Black EQ, dyac, and color vibrance, but mainly because I didn't feel asus as responsive as the alienwere . It is strange because as you said there was no difference for benq in this aspect, I wonder if sometimes it is a problem with my specific panel, I have no idea but I have seen some users here say that in 280Hz the input lag increases, so I make sure to test at 240hz, however by the tests i did at ufos test the clarity of ufo worsens at 240hz compared to 280hz and compared to alienwere.

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Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Post by Ogmilkman » 22 Dec 2020, 18:11

axaro1 wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 07:53
AMA High vs OD120
phpBB [video]

Dyac+ vs ELMB
phpBB [video]

AMA High vs OD60
phpBB [video]
Is this at 960 pixels/sec? I think I might have just gotten lucky my VG259QM shows much less artifacting than yours

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Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Post by axaro1 » 22 Dec 2020, 18:45

Ogmilkman wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 18:11
Is this at 960 pixels/sec? I think I might have just gotten lucky my VG259QM shows much less artifacting than yours
Yes.

Can you record an ufotest to compare your results?
XL2566K* | XV252QF* | LG C1* | HP OMEN X 25 | XL2546K | VG259QM | XG2402 | LS24F350[RIP]
*= currently owned



MONITOR: XL2566K custom VT: https://i.imgur.com/ylYkuLf.png
CPU: 5800x3d 102mhz BCLK
GPU: 3080FE undervolted
RAM: https://i.imgur.com/iwmraZB.png
MOUSE: Endgame Gear OP1 8k
KEYBOARD: Wooting 60he

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Re: BenQ Zowie XL2546K 240hz TN

Post by Ogmilkman » 22 Dec 2020, 22:20

axaro1 wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 18:45
Ogmilkman wrote:
22 Dec 2020, 18:11
Is this at 960 pixels/sec? I think I might have just gotten lucky my VG259QM shows much less artifacting than yours
Yes.

Can you record an ufotest to compare your results?
phpBB [video]

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