A few VIEWSONIC monitors questions

[chandler]

hi, Ive previously owned the legendary (and yes, it definitely is) VG248QE as my first ever 144hz monitor, some of u say it has the worst colors of any >60hz monitor, and I wasnt bothered by it, I got it setup nicely, strobed at 120hz with lightboost and after moving to play CS, played at 144hz after tweaking the colors abit, I can safely say that I enjoyed it very much over the 4 years Ive used it, then I got myself the XL2540 at the beginning of 2017... I left both of them for my dad to use, and moved to a different appartment.. so Im currently looking for a new 144hz monitor, (and in a few months I'll be getting the XL2546K I suppose)

Ive heard a lot of ppl praise the VIEWSONIC XG models, saying that its the absolute best 144hz units out there, previously I had this itch in me to try and maybe opt for a 27inch 1080p 144hz monitor, but I guess Im used to 24" and that the transition wouldnt be the best idea for me.

Im currently torn between two models, the XG2402 and the 2405, can you guys help me decide? keep in mind that I REALLY DO NOT MIND the reduction in color quality/accuracy if I get another TN, but if there is a decent IPS monitor I can get then I thought what the heck..

is the XG2405 worth it? or should I just get the 2402?

[chandler]

guys?

[axaro1]

I can vouch for the XG2402, that monitor extremely good, my unit didn't even suffer from vertical lines issue and I managed to get nice color results (the OSD is easily customizable).

The best part is motion clarity, when I first upgraded from the XG2402 to the VG259QM I struggle to adapt to the latter because 2.9ms G2G inside a 7.2ms refresh window was much clearer (although less smooter) than 3.3ms G2G in a 3.6ms.

Can I ask you why are you looking for a 144hz and a 240hz monitor? If you want to use the XL2546K as your main then get the XG2405 so you can have better content consumption on your secondary monitor (personally I'd rather buy a 1440p/4k 60hz IPS monitor to pair with a 240hz TN monitor rather than a 144hz w/ a 240hz).

[chandler]

I can vouch for the XG2402, that monitor extremely good, my unit didn't even suffer from vertical lines issue and I managed to get nice color results (the OSD is easily customizable).

The best part is motion clarity, when I first upgraded from the XG2402 to the VG259QM I struggle to adapt to the latter because 2.9ms G2G inside a 7.2ms refresh window was much clearer (although less smooter) than 3.3ms G2G in a 3.6ms.

Can I ask you why are you looking for a 144hz and a 240hz monitor? If you want to use the XL2546K as your main then get the XG2405 so you can have better content consumption on your secondary monitor (personally I'd rather buy a 1440p/4k 60hz IPS monitor to pair with a 240hz TN monitor rather than a 144hz w/ a 240hz).

Hello, thank you for the reply first of all,

I need a 144hz TN right now because Im using my older PC in the new appartment that I moved into, and I cant push it to output stable >250FPS . thats why Im getting a 144hz right now. ***EDIT : FPS in CSGO***

about the 2405, I never tried a high refresh rate IPS unit before, but I did hear about IPS bleed so I instantly crossed this monitor off my list, and opted for the 2402

[chandler]

also, how does THE PG259QN 360HZ comparing to the XL2546K in INPUT LAG (which from my understanding advertised as 0.5ms and has less than 3ms real input lag)..


because Im thinking of getting it instead of the 2546K , I guess with RTX 3070 and what'll be the newest AMD cpu in a couple of months I'll handle 400FPS in CSGO no problem

really looking forward to Chief responding here x)

[chandler]

bumping because no reply for almost a week

[Stevie66]

Go to the Rtings website and compare both.

[chandler]

Go to the Rtings website and compare both.

I prefer to hear people who have "hands on experience" with the XG2402,
and also, if talking about the 259QN , not a lot of decent reviews out there, and here I know that there are people who tested it inside and out.

[Stevie66]

Go to the Rtings website and compare both.

I prefer to hear people who have "hands on experience" with the XG2402,
and also, if talking about the 259QN , not a lot of decent reviews out there, and here I know that there are people who tested it inside and out.

RTings tested the 259QN and Benq inside and out, everything is on that site. I'll take actual test results than someone saying x is so much faster than y when in reality it's like .5ms lower input lag that no human can perceive.

[axaro1]

also, how does THE PG259QN 360HZ comparing to the XL2546K in INPUT LAG (which from my understanding advertised as 0.5ms and has less than 3ms real input lag)..


because Im thinking of getting it instead of the 2546K , I guess with RTX 3070 and what'll be the newest AMD cpu in a couple of months I'll handle 400FPS in CSGO no problem

You can compare the RTINGS pursuit images:

PG259QN OD Normal:


XL2546K AMA High:


There is a common misconception on this sub about higher hz monitors always being better based on the assumption that a fast refresh rate will always end up improving motion clarity.

Don't get me wrong, high refresh rates improve overall fluidity but low G2G compliance can easily make 240hz look worse than 144hz in terms of motion clarity, this is a lesson I learned when I upgraded the XG2402 and doubled the refresh rate at 280hz with the VG259QM.

Higher refresh rates obviously reduce input lag but when you reach 240hz+ refreshes it is arguably impossible to notice the difference between 240 and 360hz in terms of input latency, we are talking about 0.7ms between the Benq and the Asus.
We are now starting to see diminishing returns in this regard.

As you can see 1.7ms in a 4.17ms window looks better than 2.1ms in a 2.77ms window (even if you use the overshoot free overdrive on the Asus https://www.rtings.com/images/reviews/m ... large.jpg )

I strongly believe that for optimal motion clarity the average G2G should always be lower than 65% of the refresh window to give each transition more time to reach the actual target, lately we have seen many monitors approaching 85/95% of the refresh window in terms of G2G.

EDIT: In case you want to throw the AW2521H into the mix:
AW2521H OD Fast

I'll take actual test results than someone saying x is so much faster than y when in reality it's like .5ms lower input lag that no human can perceive.

If I had to quantify at what level a humans start to perceive input lag differences I'd say that to consistently get correct results it would be something like ±5ms if you completely concentrate on the test.