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Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by zweepz » 06 May 2021, 20:18

Looked through the thread, and searched but couldnt find anything on this, I assume the XG2431 will be 1080p and not 1440p? Im in the market for a 1440, like now, but I couldnt wait a little bit if this thing is going to be 1440.

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Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by Damedane » 09 May 2021, 18:03

zweepz wrote:
06 May 2021, 20:18
Looked through the thread, and searched but couldnt find anything on this, I assume the XG2431 will be 1080p and not 1440p? Im in the market for a 1440, like now, but I couldnt wait a little bit if this thing is going to be 1440.
From CES2021 press relese
XG2431

• 24-inch IPS gaming monitor with native 1080p (1920x1080) resolution

• 240Hz refresh rate; 1ms response time

• AMD FreeSync Premium technology

• Supports VESA DisplayHDR 400

• Connectivity includes: HDMI 2.0, DisplayPort, USB-A/B and Audio-Out

• Available: March 2021

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Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by Roadsign1993 » 13 May 2021, 11:21

i still cant find anything about a release date of this monitor :/

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Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by DarkMartyr420 » 13 May 2021, 17:43

I would love to know the pricing on the XG2431 oddly enough on there press release for there color work monitors price was mentioned but not there gaming monitors

I am in the market for a new monitor was looking at purchasing the XG270 but I just can not due 1080p at 27". I see this monitor here is supposedly on the horizon. How would you compare this to the XL2546 or VG258QM(Blur reduction looks pretty good on rtings) for blur reduction? My FPS exceeds 100 on most games I play. I will not be using it for consoles strictly PC gaming. IPS or TN does not matter to much as I am red/green color blind.

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Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by DarkMartyr420 » 13 May 2021, 17:48

zweepz wrote:
06 May 2021, 20:18
Looked through the thread, and searched but couldnt find anything on this, I assume the XG2431 will be 1080p and not 1440p? Im in the market for a 1440, like now, but I couldnt wait a little bit if this thing is going to be 1440.
Correct it is 1080p. I do have a XB273U GX I am willing to let go of if you want, you can see how it measures on rtings.

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Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 16 May 2021, 16:05

Still awaiting ViewSonic retail units.

Hopefully the electronics parts shortage isn't impacting ViewSonic too much --
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Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by Roadsign1993 » 17 May 2021, 21:07

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
16 May 2021, 16:05
Still awaiting ViewSonic retail units.

Hopefully the electronics parts shortage isn't impacting ViewSonic too much --
hi chief, you helped them tune the xg2431 and you kinda promted it here on this forum aswell, and even you dont know any kind of release date ? and the only thing on twitter is "Hello, the XG2431 will be delayed until May." and that post is from april ... idk but the viewsonic marketing team is awefull, may i ask, did you ask someone of the guys you worked with from viewsonic if they still plan to release it this month or we dont rly know anything about the release date at this point ?

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Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 18 May 2021, 13:58

Roadsign1993 wrote:
17 May 2021, 21:07
hi chief, you helped them tune the xg2431 and you kinda promted it here on this forum aswell, and even you dont know any kind of release date ? and the only thing on twitter is "Hello, the XG2431 will be delayed until May." and that post is from april ... idk but the viewsonic marketing team is awefull, may i ask, did you ask someone of the guys you worked with from viewsonic if they still plan to release it this month or we dont rly know anything about the release date at this point ?
Correct. The release date is a different department, controlled mostly by parts-making companies outside of ViewSonic.

--> Even the engineering team doesn't know the marketing plans / CEO plans -- until the last minute.
--> For example, the Tesla engineers and assembly line workers don't always know Elon Musk's plans -- until the last minute.
--> For example, the Coca-Cola line workers don't always know how many cans of Coca-Cola and how many cans of Sprite will be ordered next month by their biggest customers -- until the last minute.

If one work in the industry, there are different departments -- much like the Math Classroom may not know what the English Classroom plans are. You might combine the two (e.g. writing an essay about Fermat's Last Theorem) but the classes only have limited collaboration with each other.

Remember!... There is an electronics part shortage. Chips, GPUs, panels. The same [bleep] affecting a lot of the industry is also affecting ViewSonic too. The factories are waiting for parts. Even everyone else, ASUS, BenQ, etc, have quietly delayed a lot of their unannouncedshipping dates.

The chips built into a Scaler/TCON motherboard (Example Photos) mounted on the back of a 240Hz panel is also particularly powerful, having to do picture processing on almost a billion pixels per second (color processing, VRR processing, overdrive processing, etc), so it's not as easy as 60 Hz stuff -- and are fabbed at fewer nanometers than the chips in a 60Hz TCON (whether or not it uses the same panel for both 60Hz and 240Hz monitors, but with different chips driving them). And obviously, you've heard that chip factories that are having difficulty keeping up with orders -- affecting mudane stuff like cars and televisions. Televisions have gone up in price by 30%. The monitor market is not unaffected.

Panel manufacturer unable to source scaler/TCON chips, cascading to panel delay in delivery to OEMs (such as ViewSonic) cascading into delays in building monitors (such as XG2431), cascading into delays on shipping retail monitors.

Having difficulty buying an RTX? Welcome to our frustration at monitor manufacturers too....

I do try to give you as much "inside information" as allowed by NDA. But genuinely, definitive shipping dates are not even known by a lot of ViewSonic departments. Imagine unavailable/delayed parts halting assembly lines -- etc.

Currently the tentative ViewSonic-side press release is beginning of June now -- so yes, May is now off the table AFAIK. But even that is still a moving target, depending on the factory's difficulties in ramping up.

All the manufacturers typically don't disclose much about what the holdup is caused by. But I see vendors such as AOC, Innolux, etc, having difficulty manufacturing 240Hz panels faster (including the chips embedded into the back of the panel -- the "panel motherboard"). And I can connect the dots to dots.

Even with the chip shortage - Obviously the pandemic situation in Taiwan does not help; they have recently imposed a lockdown -- they are not as fast-vaccinated as USA/Canada at the moment. You've seen other vendors delay ship dates by quite a bit too.

Although I have not been told by ViewSonic directly, I can see the panel vendors having difficulties keeping up. From this, I can deduce the main constrained critical path appears to be [chip factories] -> [panel vendors] -> [OEMs such as ViewSonic] -> [Retail stores]

Blur Busters has to also "suck it up cupcake, hurry up and wait" too -- we're the equivalent of a kid waiting for a pair of already-preordered RTX 3090 SLI. That's how anxious I am :D

Do you know how how stressed many workers are in the industry -- some of you are waiting for RTX cards -- conversely parties like these are are waiting for parts to manufacture stuff, under intense pressure/demand. With bosses/investors/suppliers/software developers and ISVs like me, anxiously waiting for the supply chain to speed up.

Some of us have been [bleepingly] furloughed or laid off for 2 weeks while factories are idled waiting for parts (I don't know if it affected specialized panel vendors, but it has happened to some factories -- like shut down car factories waiting for chips). But fortunately it has not affected Blur Busters, as I have other businesses.

Yes, Blur Busters may feel like Valve Time at times. :D

Yes, I get dates from vendors, then the vendors retract the dates due to a delay given to them by an external vendor dependant on specialized chips. ViewSonic is not the only company affected. Chip shortage is also causing televisions to increase in price by 30%. While I hope the MSRP does not go up, it at least affects all boats (all brands of all "Better Than 60Hz" monitors for example).

Fortunately most monitor models are not as constrained as GPUs.
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Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by reighnman » 19 May 2021, 07:41

Can we at least confirm this is the xg2431 viewsonic tweeted recently? :)
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