ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

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Gias
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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Gias » 26 Nov 2021, 17:13

Hey Chief. Could you tell me if the Viewsonic XG2431's sleep mode basically works like the "deep sleep" on/off setting from other Viewsonic monitors ? With deep sleep on, the monitor disconnects from Windows when you simply turn it off - whereas if you have deep sleep off, the monitor doesn't disconnect from Windows when you simply turn it off. I have a Viewsonic ELITE XG270QG that has the deep sleep on/off setting. I saw in the manual online for the XG2431 that this one has a sleep mode you can turn off. I'm guessing it's basically the same but labeled differently on this monitor.

Also, could you tell me if the XG2431 monitor is HDCP 2.2 compliant over its displayport port ? My understanding is that usually if the monitor has HDMI 2.0 ports, it'll also be HDCP 2.2 compliant at least if using the HDMI port (and an HDCP 2.2 compliant cable), and usually over displayport if it's DP 1.4. I was trying to find out more online... and apparently the XG2431 monitor has HDMI 2.0 ports but for displayport it has DP 1.2 or 1.1, so maybe it's only HDCP 2.2 compliant if using the monitor over HDMI ? or maybe it's still be HDCP 2.2 compliant over displayport too somehow ?

HDCP 2.2 compliance is important for me for 4k Netflix on PC basically even if this monitor is 1080p - since I'd have it connected to my PC along with a 4k display, and, last I checked this, all connected monitors had to be HDCP 2.2 compliant for the user to be able to watch 4k Netflix on the 4k display (otherwise you'd get a black screen or you'd have to disconnect the monitor that's not HDCP 2.2 compliant whenever you want to watch 4k Netflix on the PC).

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by teo » 26 Nov 2021, 21:48

here are my pursuits at 240hz, 960pps. they're in the order of unstrobed ('ultra fast' overdrive), 'normal' pure xp, 'extreme' pure xp. my normal picture isn't perfect but I'd say it's reflective of real world use. shoutout to mark and discorz for some handholding.
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I also took some shots of 60hz and 120hz QFT with custom pure xp tuning, which you can see here. as has been promised, 60hz is cross-talk free for the entire screen (ignore the bottom row, in reality it looks the same as the others). 120hz is also cross-talk free center screen with mild cross-talk in the upper and lower portions (again, ignore the one full column that has a shutter artifact). the testufo panning map at 2400pps was the most eye-catching demo of these QFT modes, with street names all being readable. I tuned the brightness here to be between the 'extreme' and 'ultra' presets.

my thoughts so far: out of the box 'native' colors seem natural. the 240hz unstrobed quality to me seems pretty good, and I can't detect any overshoot at the highest response time setting. the pure xp presets obviously take the motion clarity to another level. pure xp 'normal' is plenty bright for me, while 'extreme' is a touch too dim--but blur busters 2.0 means that I can custom tune an in between setting, though I've been too lazy to do so.

I don't have a lot of 60hz or 120hz content to test. on the fast scrolling sonic mania, I could see a difference in the clarity of text in motion. for the general art assets, though, I'm not sure I noticed a big change. the various blur busters testufo scenarios were impressive with the tuned strobing so they're clearly working as advertised.

at 240hz I'm not finding pure xp to be a night-and-day type difference. again, in-game text on the background signs in rocket league was sharper and easier to read while I flew past. in apex legends (arenas mostly), valorant, and overwatch I didn't feel any immediate difference. I also didn't perceive any increase in input lag when turning on pure xp modes. I've only been using pure xp 'normal' for the last few days so maybe I'll notice a difference after getting used to it. otherwise, maybe I'm more of a stare-at-crosshairs player than I realized and strobing won't benefit me as much in those titles.

for a long while I've been using 1440p screens (dell s2417dg 165hz, then alienware aw3418dw 120hz, back to s2417dg, then alienware aw2721d 240hz), almost always with frame-capped g-sync. the xg2431's resolution/ppi isn't as bad as the last 1080p monitor I tried, but it's still a very noticeable downgrade in resolution and screen space for desktop/browsing/non-game use. I think I've better acclimated to the lower in-game resolution. I use my other monitors for work, so the xg2431 would be a gaming-only monitor for me. my desk setup could support that without much issue, but there are still inconveniences like reassigning the 'primary' monitor in windows if I want to play certain games on a different monitor.

I've actually forced myself not to use my aw2721d while getting used to the xg2431 because I want to see if switching back has notable motion clarity differences and how much 1440p in-game matters to me. I definitely see the appeal for some people to use a 24" panel rather than a 27", but I put all of my monitors on arms and was comfortable viewing the 27" at ~75cm.

so I'm still deciding on if the xg2431 is a monitor I'll keep on my desk, but I've sure had fun playing with it. the strobe tuning utility/blur busters influence is something I'd happily pay a little more to get in a future monitor, and I'm glad to hear that blur busters is involved in some strobed vrr projects. throughout this process I've learned that I'm fairly sensitive to screen tearing, and I also appreciate the set-and-forget aspects of vrr. to that end: I've gotten so used to the osd joystick on my aw2721d that the buttons of the xg2431 feel like a big downgrade. at least the OSD itself includes on screen labels for what each button does.
[Edit -- crosspost to insert retro-friendly 60Hz QFT strobed pursuit that has zero strobe crosstalkImage

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by masterblaster » 26 Nov 2021, 21:51

AM_acc1q wrote:
26 Nov 2021, 13:22
masterblaster wrote:
26 Nov 2021, 12:10
Yeah damn amazon has these on sale for $300 atm.... Not a bad deal.

Ive been messing with this monitor for a few weeks now and I do like it, but I think I am going to go a different route for a few reasons. I think I am going to go with either a 1440p 27" gaming or go for the acer 390hz 25"(if it ever comes in stock again to buy :( ).
What monitor size were you coming from?
Thats not my reasoning. I like it and to be honest, I should probably keep it cause its pretty good. I am coming from a 25" 1920x1200 dell 60hz monitor to answer you, but ive had other gaming monitors in the past(I sold my last one). I guess I should say I am coming from a 24" viewsonic xg2401, that was my previous gaming monitor.

I tried 1440p recently and kind of liked the clarity so I am trying to decide what route to go is all. And ive heard some good things on the 390hz acer so I really want to try that too. I am conflicted on which route to go now.

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by CortexFPS » 27 Nov 2021, 03:37

I also bought it from Amazon.com, I live in Italy, so I hope it has no dead pixels, I have no idea how much the return costs could be, it will be like winning the lottery I guess.
In use: 27GR95QE-B | XG2431
Used before: PG248QP | XL2566K | XL2546K/S | XV252QF | AW2521H | VG259QM | PG279QM | AW2721D
Mouse: OP1 8K | Zaunkoenig M2K
Keyboard: Wooting 60HE
PC: 5800x3D; RTX 3080

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Zace » 27 Nov 2021, 11:41

CortexFPS wrote:
27 Nov 2021, 03:37
I also bought it from Amazon.com, I live in Italy, so I hope it has no dead pixels, I have no idea how much the return costs could be, it will be like winning the lottery I guess.
Other than dead pixels, any other issues that we should check too?

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by youmirinbrah » 27 Nov 2021, 12:02

Anyone know when this monitor will be available in EU?

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by youmirinbrah » 27 Nov 2021, 12:09

CortexFPS wrote:
27 Nov 2021, 03:37
I also bought it from Amazon.com, I live in Italy, so I hope it has no dead pixels, I have no idea how much the return costs could be, it will be like winning the lottery I guess.
How much euros did that cost you with shipping?

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by CortexFPS » 27 Nov 2021, 14:42

youmirinbrah wrote:
27 Nov 2021, 12:09
CortexFPS wrote:
27 Nov 2021, 03:37
I also bought it from Amazon.com, I live in Italy, so I hope it has no dead pixels, I have no idea how much the return costs could be, it will be like winning the lottery I guess.
How much euros did that cost you with shipping?
€ 424,86
In use: 27GR95QE-B | XG2431
Used before: PG248QP | XL2566K | XL2546K/S | XV252QF | AW2521H | VG259QM | PG279QM | AW2721D
Mouse: OP1 8K | Zaunkoenig M2K
Keyboard: Wooting 60HE
PC: 5800x3D; RTX 3080

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by CortexFPS » 27 Nov 2021, 14:45

Zace wrote:
27 Nov 2021, 11:41
CortexFPS wrote:
27 Nov 2021, 03:37
I also bought it from Amazon.com, I live in Italy, so I hope it has no dead pixels, I have no idea how much the return costs could be, it will be like winning the lottery I guess.
Other than dead pixels, any other issues that we should check too?
in the last 7 ips monitors i bought, only one had dead pixels, i hope 1/7 is a pretty good average
In use: 27GR95QE-B | XG2431
Used before: PG248QP | XL2566K | XL2546K/S | XV252QF | AW2521H | VG259QM | PG279QM | AW2721D
Mouse: OP1 8K | Zaunkoenig M2K
Keyboard: Wooting 60HE
PC: 5800x3D; RTX 3080

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by woland » 27 Nov 2021, 15:39

Just got mine, is anyone else finding it too dark with strobing enabled? I'm using PureXP Normal with Black Stabilization on 80 and contrast 70 and it still feels dark.

Strobing quality is excellent by the way, way better than any other monitor I've used.

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