ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by dtrdpixl » 22 Jan 2024, 16:47

dtrdpixl wrote:
12 Jan 2024, 01:10
Greetings!

I have a question regarding the XG2431. I've been using it with the 60Hz QFT Mode in Custom Resolution Utility, though I put the settings that were given to me at 65 hz using one of the responses given here, because the screen not give input with the 60 hz settings, and every couple hours whenever I use the monitor at 60 hz with the custom purexp+ setting, the monitor restarts every couple hours on its own, only whenever I'm using it at 60hz.
I wanted to know if this is intentional, or if its a faulty setting on my end.
Update:
Brought two new HDMI 2.1 and DP 2.1 cables, both with certification, I couldn't manage to get more than 4375 VT through the DP port (same as with the old cable), but I immediately was able to put 4635 VT at 60hz with the HDMI 2.1 cable.

Is there a reason any for this? Also, idk what to do with the new DP cable lmaoooo.

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Angel Soler » 24 Jan 2024, 17:03

Hello everyone!!

After a while enjoying the xg2431, I finally had time and decided to do the QFT and CRU.

It's been difficult for me to get it to work. I have followed several tutorials and guides, and it didn't work for me.
Sometimes black screens and other times the crosstalk did not seem to change at all.

In the end, I copied the values ​​from another forum member who posted a while ago and it worked perfectly for me. I have managed to completely eliminate crosstalk in 60 hz!!
It is a wonder!!


These are the values:
Horizontal vertical
active 1920. 1080
Front porch 88 4
Sync width 44 5
Back porch 148 3296
Blanking 280 3305
total 2200 4385



But I have the following doubt:

Even though I have copied the values ​​and have not reached the value of 4500 VT,…
Am I getting the benefit of having reduced lag?


Many thanks for everything

Greetings

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 25 Jan 2024, 21:30

Angel Soler wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 17:03
Hello everyone!!

After a while enjoying the xg2431, I finally had time and decided to do the QFT and CRU.

It's been difficult for me to get it to work. I have followed several tutorials and guides, and it didn't work for me.
Sometimes black screens and other times the crosstalk did not seem to change at all.

In the end, I copied the values ​​from another forum member who posted a while ago and it worked perfectly for me. I have managed to completely eliminate crosstalk in 60 hz!!
It is a wonder!!


These are the values:
Horizontal vertical
active 1920. 1080
Front porch 88 4
Sync width 44 5
Back porch 148 3296
Blanking 280 3305
total 2200 4385



But I have the following doubt:

Even though I have copied the values ​​and have not reached the value of 4500 VT,…
Am I getting the benefit of having reduced lag?
Glad you eliminated double-images on the ViewSonic XG2431!
Those numbers do often work better.

First, adjust strobe phase as late as possible (just before you see crosstalk above edge).

Then:
VSYNC OFF -- strobe phase benefit only
VSYNC ON -- use Special K Latent Sync or use RTSS Scanline Sync to steer tearline to end-of-VBI to reduce latency
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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Angel Soler » 26 Jan 2024, 12:37

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
25 Jan 2024, 21:30
Angel Soler wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 17:03
Hello everyone!!

After a while enjoying the xg2431, I finally had time and decided to do the QFT and CRU.

It's been difficult for me to get it to work. I have followed several tutorials and guides, and it didn't work for me.
Sometimes black screens and other times the crosstalk did not seem to change at all.

In the end, I copied the values ​​from another forum member who posted a while ago and it worked perfectly for me. I have managed to completely eliminate crosstalk in 60 hz!!
It is a wonder!!


These are the values:
Horizontal vertical
active 1920. 1080
Front porch 88 4
Sync width 44 5
Back porch 148 3296
Blanking 280 3305
total 2200 4385



But I have the following doubt:

Even though I have copied the values ​​and have not reached the value of 4500 VT,…
Am I getting the benefit of having reduced lag?
Glad you eliminated double-images on the ViewSonic XG2431!
Those numbers do often work better.

First, adjust strobe phase as late as possible (just before you see crosstalk above edge).

Then:
VSYNC OFF -- strobe phase benefit only
VSYNC ON -- use Special K Latent Sync or use RTSS Scanline Sync to steer tearline to end-of-VBI to reduce latency

Thank you very much for your always quick response 😉.

One last question, Chief, please!!

I tried using RTSS, but I don't know how it works and the tutorials I saw were a bit confusing.

I have a very powerful PC (Ryzen 7,7800 3D processor and a GTX 4090 graphics card and 32 GB RAM).
Do I really need to use RTSS to reduce lag when playing at 60hz?
That is, having such a powerful computer, the improvement with RTSS would be negligible. Is this statement correct?

And if I really need to use RTSS, could you tell me where to find an easy-to-follow tutorial?

Thank you vey much for everything.
And thank you very much for making such a fantastic monitor like the XG2431 possible!!!

Greetings

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 02 Feb 2024, 20:20

Angel Soler wrote:
26 Jan 2024, 12:37
I have a very powerful PC (Ryzen 7,7800 3D processor and a GTX 4090 graphics card and 32 GB RAM).
Do I really need to use RTSS to reduce lag when playing at 60hz?
That is, having such a powerful computer, the improvement with RTSS would be negligible. Is this statement correct?
Depends on your needs. But you can reduce your lag further by up to 1/60sec, for a "VSYNC ON lookalike" framerate=Hz 60fps sync technology.

There's an old howto:
viewtopic.php?t=4916
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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by blurblurb » 03 Feb 2024, 15:56

i was considering buying this monitor until a i read a recent thread here on this forum,
where someone said that when using the best antiblur modes
the brightness of the monitor was too low to be usable.

they claimed like 50 or less nits iirc

were their measurements accurate or was that just their impression or what?

the other thing im not sure if i understand about this monitor is
does the pc-based strobing utility save its settings to the monitor (so you can tweak it then save settings and use it with 60hz consoles)
or does the strobing utility only apply its settings to pc programs run on the same computer as the utility?

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 03 Feb 2024, 16:32

blurblurb wrote:
03 Feb 2024, 15:56
i was considering buying this monitor until a i read a recent thread here on this forum,
where someone said that when using the best antiblur modes
the brightness of the monitor was too low to be usable.

they claimed like 50 or less nits iirc

were their measurements accurate or was that just their impression or what?
The nits levels depend on the PureXP setting. The brightness PureXP setting is 200 nits;

While several models can get brighter per pulse width (despite lesser capabilities, like lack of custom Hz strobing, and sub-100Hz strobing), consider that even NVIDIA ULMB and BenQ DyAc can become dim too (under 50 nits) with certain pulse width settings, in a "pulse width" versus "brightness" tradeoff. Motion blur is proportional to puslewidth, and some people trade off brightness for shorter pulse widths;

For more information about the already-measured PureXP brightnesses, I recommend the RTINGS review Backlight Strobing Section.

PureXP Custom setting, allows adjustment of pulse width from 1% of a refresh cycle, to 40% of a refresh cycle. That's a 40x difference in brightness, at an average of about 5 nits per % step, which means if you tune to 30% pulsewidth, you can get 150 nits with PureXP.

If you prefer extra brightness over flexibility, the BenQ DyAc is widely known to be one of the brighter strobe backlights, despite its relative inflexibilities...
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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Angel Soler » 03 Feb 2024, 18:38

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 20:20
Angel Soler wrote:
26 Jan 2024, 12:37
I have a very powerful PC (Ryzen 7,7800 3D processor and a GTX 4090 graphics card and 32 GB RAM).
Do I really need to use RTSS to reduce lag when playing at 60hz?
That is, having such a powerful computer, the improvement with RTSS would be negligible. Is this statement correct?
Depends on your needs. But you can reduce your lag further by up to 1/60sec, for a "VSYNC ON lookalike" framerate=Hz 60fps sync technology.

There's an old howto:
viewtopic.php?t=4916
Ok, Chief!!
Thank you very much!!
☺️☺️

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Boop » 05 Feb 2024, 21:25

Has anyone tried overclocking the XG2431 to 250Hz? Use case is for games that are locked at 250fps (Quake Live) and benefit from the quadruple sync that the chief mentioned in a different thread.

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by whitestar » 08 Feb 2024, 10:03

I bought this monitor a few weeks ago. Really happy with it. I run it through HDMI and the motion clarity/ghosting is noticably better than on my old XL2720Z. And of course the colors are much better.

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