ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Everything about displays and monitors. 120Hz, 144Hz, 240Hz, 4K, 1440p, input lag, display shopping, monitor purchase decisions, compare, versus, debate, and more. Questions? Just ask!
sunisc
Posts: 13
Joined: 13 Jun 2021, 22:47

Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by sunisc » 13 Jun 2021, 22:50

I've been waiting for this monitor since it was announced on this Forum. I was gonna buy the MSI MAG251RX before this but it was out of stock. Now it is back in stock but I don't know if I should keep waiting for this monitor as I think it's gonna be delayed again :(

Not sure if it's gonna be worth the hype. I'm using a shitty PIXIO PXC243 144HZ monitor.

quake3
Posts: 27
Joined: 31 May 2021, 10:27

Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by quake3 » 14 Jun 2021, 09:27

By looking at what we know, can someone say if this is a good update from the XG2401 that I i've already got? Im just not sure if I should bother.

Im just tired of how bad it is in dark areas with hte XG2401. Im hoping XG2431 is as good as XG2401 for gaming (low lag, etc) but with improved black colors.

Hjaldrgud
Posts: 9
Joined: 14 Jun 2021, 14:57

Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by Hjaldrgud » 14 Jun 2021, 15:12

I am also a bit concerned when it comes to contrast ratio, backlight bleed and uniformity. From what I understand Viewsonic has had some problems with this on their monitors.

GammaLyrae
Posts: 116
Joined: 28 Mar 2018, 01:44

Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by GammaLyrae » 15 Jun 2021, 21:22

If IPS panel characteristics (glow, contrast, potential for backlight bleed) bother you, I wouldn't expect the XG2431 to be a step above any other IPS panel on the market in this regard. There's a fairly narrow band of average performance you can expect from the technology.

GammaLyrae
Posts: 116
Joined: 28 Mar 2018, 01:44

Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by GammaLyrae » 15 Jun 2021, 21:28

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
01 Jun 2021, 14:52
GammaLyrae wrote:
01 Jun 2021, 14:09
GammaLyrae wrote:
25 May 2021, 01:04
Just thought I'd prod again and see if you're willing to say whether or not this monitor will have a variable overdrive feature. It's crucial for a good VRR experience
Perhaps this would be a good feature for version 3.0 of the certification, then.
I do recognize dynamic overdrive does slightly improve the motion resolution of VRR (to more closely follow Blur Busters Law, becoming more unimpeded by ghosting/coronas)
I disagree with the notion that it's a slight improvement, but I understand your reasoning for it not becoming part of the blur busters certification. It seems evident then, that one must choose to prioritize only one of input lag, strobed motion clarity, and VRR motion clarity, as no one monitor will exceed at all 3. Some may meet at least two of those criteria (an LG OLED will get you good VRR motion clarity and fairly low input lag in game mode, albeit with dim and not exceptionally crisp black frame insertion modes, and the current XG270 has exceptional motion clarity in VRR and PureXP+ modes thanks to how its scanout works, but suffers an input lag penalty at any refresh rate below its maximum)

whitestar
Posts: 112
Joined: 12 May 2014, 06:11

Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by whitestar » 16 Jun 2021, 07:27

Really happy to see that 60Hz single strobing is a mandatory feature for the 2.0 Certification!

Couple of questions:

1. If the single strobing on the XG2431 goes as low as 60Hz, does that mean that it can also be set to strobe at any Hz from 60 to <whatever max res>? On my Benq XL2720Z I can for example set a strobed refresh of say 60, 65, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 80, 85...you get the picture. Any Hz from 60 and up in 1Hz increments. The delicious thing about that is that I can fine-tune it to be just below my minimum fps in any game, to get as little flickering and lag as possible while maximizing smoothness.

2. What about 27 inch and bigger? Will there be monitors with equal features coming in those sizes as well?

Btw, 60Hz strobing isn't just for console games and emulators. It's also very much needed for extremely performance heavy PC games and games that simply refuse to work at any other Hz/fps, such as the Trials motorcycle games, Skyrim (unmodded) and a few others.

User avatar
Chief Blur Buster
Site Admin
Posts: 11647
Joined: 05 Dec 2013, 15:44
Location: Toronto / Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Contact:

Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 16 Jun 2021, 16:28

GammaLyrae wrote:
15 Jun 2021, 21:28
Chief Blur Buster wrote:
01 Jun 2021, 14:52
I do recognize dynamic overdrive does slightly improve the motion resolution of VRR (to more closely follow Blur Busters Law, becoming more unimpeded by ghosting/coronas)
I disagree with the notion that it's a slight improvement
Oh, good catch: I should have quantified it more specifically:

Usually, minor improvement to motion resolution, with the addition of
Possible major improvement to side effects such as coronas.

The level of ghosting/coronas typically found during VRR framerate variances often isn't extreme enough to affect the scientific measurement sequence of MPRT very significantly -- the MPRT of sample and hold is almost unchanged with/without coronas (relatively speaking), at least at the current levels. However, the side effects are often more noticeable than the motion resolution itself (from laboratory device measurement perspective). Although ultra-bad side effects may begin to really the lab MPRT a bit, especially if super extreme ghosting/overdrive sustains for an extremely long period (the maximum-overdrive-gain type where coronas start making slow-scrolling-text text fully completely undecipherable like an OD Gain value of 127 on a scale of 0-to-127).
Head of Blur Busters - BlurBusters.com | TestUFO.com | Follow @BlurBusters on Twitter

Image
Forum Rules wrote:  1. Rule #1: Be Nice. This is published forum rule #1. Even To Newbies & People You Disagree With!
  2. Please report rule violations If you see a post that violates forum rules, then report the post.
  3. ALWAYS respect indie testers here. See how indies are bootstrapping Blur Busters research!

quake3
Posts: 27
Joined: 31 May 2021, 10:27

Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by quake3 » 16 Jun 2021, 21:35

GammaLyrae wrote:
15 Jun 2021, 21:22
If IPS panel characteristics (glow, contrast, potential for backlight bleed) bother you, I wouldn't expect the XG2431 to be a step above any other IPS panel on the market in this regard. There's a fairly narrow band of average performance you can expect from the technology.
https://www.viewsonic.com/eu/products/archive/XG2401

The XG2401 is a TN panel. I've never tried an IPS but I was told colors are better so im hoping the 2431 has better colors without losing Quake performance (im overal happy with the XG2401 as far as input response, blur etc)


User avatar
Chief Blur Buster
Site Admin
Posts: 11647
Joined: 05 Dec 2013, 15:44
Location: Toronto / Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Contact:

Re: [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS] ViewSonic unveils monitors for 2021 (The new 240Hz 24" king?)

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 17 Jun 2021, 17:58

AM_acc1q wrote:
17 Jun 2021, 16:51
I wonder how this stacks up against the XG2431
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-25 ... cs_section
None of the 25” 240Hz panels on the market are horizontal scanrate multisync (aka low lag at low Hz). I’d be surprised if this specific 25” panel breaks the trend. The XG2431 is a 23.8” Innolux panel with very different characteristics.

Nintheless, DELL is invited to apply for the Blur Busters Approved programme, if they’d like to!

That said, discussion should be in a separate thread.
Head of Blur Busters - BlurBusters.com | TestUFO.com | Follow @BlurBusters on Twitter

Image
Forum Rules wrote:  1. Rule #1: Be Nice. This is published forum rule #1. Even To Newbies & People You Disagree With!
  2. Please report rule violations If you see a post that violates forum rules, then report the post.
  3. ALWAYS respect indie testers here. See how indies are bootstrapping Blur Busters research!

Post Reply