ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Angel Soler » 08 Jun 2022, 01:49

b0t wrote:
07 Jun 2022, 10:44
guys it took a while but I finally pulled the trigger and ordered this display to replace my XL2540 (which Im using since early 2017)

according to amazon it's shipped from the US and will arrive to Israel on the 13th, Im VERY excited about this.

Me too!!!
Im very exited, too!! ☺️☺️

Regards, my friend! ☺️💪

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 08 Jun 2022, 21:11

BYF wrote:
07 Jun 2022, 16:55
I guess for motion clarity Pure XP will be far more important for me, my current monitor doesn't even have VRR. How far off are we seeing a monitor/TV that can do 60hz single strobe with VRR?
Uncertain, but convincing at least two vendors to at least *think* about a configurable min strobe Hz setting (numeric slider)
BYF wrote:
07 Jun 2022, 16:55
And is it even technically possible/viable?
Yes. Just more inertia at the monitor-politics level. (e.g. "it flickers too much" without considering giving user the choice)

BYF wrote:
07 Jun 2022, 16:55
Because if frame rate was to dip in the low 50s or 40s even, single strobe would look horrible at such a low refresh.
That's why the setting is not available -- flicker. However, many emulators framepace perfectly at 60fps, so strobed VRR would be lower lag than fixed-Hz single strobe, and be equal flicker. And one can theoretically set the min strobe Hz really tight (e.g. 58-59Hz).

BYF wrote:
07 Jun 2022, 16:55
Edit: I definitely think 60hz single strobe is most important to me any suggestions for alternative monitors/TV to the XG2431 for the series X. As I cannot find any available in UK.
The LG OLEDs support BFI at 60Hz, as an alternative TV-favourite for single strobe 60 Hz.
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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by BYF » 09 Jun 2022, 09:07

Thanks for clarifying those points, very interesting.

I will try and demo an LG Oled, I read here that the new models don't support high BFI at 120hz, although I don't think it will be an issue as 99% of my gaming is at 60fps and I can live with non BFI motion clarity at 120hz.

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Angel Soler » 09 Jun 2022, 15:47

I have been very disappointed with the XG2431 with its strobe mode at 60hz on consoles.

I don't know if there's something I'm not doing right, but the XL2411P has a better strobe mode on consoles.
The crosstalk is finer, takes up less screen, and the brightest area is sharper on the XL2411P. I am sure that on PC it will improve thanks to the vertical total, but I wanted the monitor only for consoles.
I hope it's that I'm not doing something right and I'm wrong 😞
Angel Soler wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 02:27
*** UPDATE June 14 ***
After a break-in period and after some fine tuning I have to say that I am impressed with the XG2431.

I was wrong in my first impression.

The monitor is wonderful.
To say that I am a CRT enthusiast (until a couple of years ago I was playing on a SONY 21 CRT).

I only play on console (60hz) and until now I was playing with the XL2411p.
I was very happy, but it is true that the crosstalk was very visible in certain areas.
With the XG2431, it's as if the crosstalk is softer, less pronounced, and in a real game it goes completely unnoticed.

This is as close as there is to the SONY CRT, hands down.

And I still have to give it more break-in time, and then it will improve even more :)

In short, very happy with the monitor.

The definitive screen for nostalgic of the CRT.

Many thanks to Chief for all his advice and directions :)

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 09 Jun 2022, 20:03

Angel Soler wrote:
09 Jun 2022, 15:47
I have been very disappointed with the XG2431 with its strobe mode at 60hz on consoles.

I don't know if there's something I'm not doing right, but the XL2411P has a better strobe mode on consoles.
The crosstalk is finer, takes up less screen, and the brightest area is sharper on the XL2411P. I am sure that on PC it will improve thanks to the vertical total, but I wanted the monitor only for consoles.
I hope it's that I'm not doing something right and I'm wrong 😞
What are your current strobe tuning settings?
Are you using the existing PureXP settings (Light, Normal, Extreme, Ultra) or the Custom setting?

Also, general recommendation for all strobed displays:
Did you break in the monitor for at least 24 hours, preferably 72 hours? (Also recommended for XL2411P strobe crosstalk minimization too). Also remember to warm up the panel for at least 30 minutes if it was already turned off, especially in a cool/cold room.

If using Custom, you can re-tune 1080p 60Hz VT1125 on a PC, and then disconnect the PC and then connect to a console.

While large vertical totals help, there should already be zero crosstalk for screen centre (similar to RTINGS photo) even on consoles. If your XG2431 looks worse than the 60Hz RTINGS pursuit photos, then something is wrong (e.g. panel lottery) -- As a last resort, you can try a "Factory Reset" (Memory Recall).

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Angel Soler » 10 Jun 2022, 00:47

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
09 Jun 2022, 20:03
Angel Soler wrote:
09 Jun 2022, 15:47
I have been very disappointed with the XG2431 with its strobe mode at 60hz on consoles.

I don't know if there's something I'm not doing right, but the XL2411P has a better strobe mode on consoles.
The crosstalk is finer, takes up less screen, and the brightest area is sharper on the XL2411P. I am sure that on PC it will improve thanks to the vertical total, but I wanted the monitor only for consoles.
I hope it's that I'm not doing something right and I'm wrong 😞
What are your current strobe tuning settings?
Are you using the existing PureXP settings (Light, Normal, Extreme, Ultra) or the Custom setting?

Also, general recommendation for all strobed displays:
Did you break in the monitor for at least 24 hours, preferably 72 hours? (Also recommended for XL2411P strobe crosstalk minimization too). Also remember to warm up the panel for at least 30 minutes if it was already turned off, especially in a cool/cold room.

If using Custom, you can re-tune 1080p 60Hz VT1125 on a PC, and then disconnect the PC and then connect to a console.

While large vertical totals help, there should already be zero crosstalk for screen centre (similar to RTINGS photo) even on consoles. If your XG2431 looks worse than the 60Hz RTINGS pursuit photos, then something is wrong (e.g. panel lottery) -- As a last resort, you can try a "Factory Reset" (Memory Recall).

You can post here in these forums or send me a PM (your preference)
I've done most of the things you mentioned, but not all of them. I'm going to do them all and I'll take photos to show them in the forum, see if you can advise me. Thank you very much for your interest ☺️

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by drhadoken32 » 10 Jun 2022, 07:47

Hello, I'm currently experiencing a garbage display when using the lower Hz setting (144hz, 120hz, 60hz), and when I set it up to 240hz (yeah it's usable) but not like before there are now noticeable scanlines with it.

Tried even removing all cable powering (On) still garbage display on Viewsonic Intro Logo (Just like in the link below). I've been using the monitor for 6 months with no issues until this day I've noticed scanlines in native 240hz.

My question is will there be a fix for it like firmware updates for XG2431? Just like the Odyssey Neo G9 issues. I really love this monitor it's a bummer that this just happens when the work week just finished.

Similar issue with mine.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comme ... 431_issue/

Thanks, guys in advance.

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 10 Jun 2022, 17:33

drhadoken32 wrote:
10 Jun 2022, 07:47
Similar issue with mine.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comme ... 431_issue/

Thanks, guys in advance.
This appears to be a defect — this photo is an RMA-qualifying claim. If your monitor is still under warranty, you should open a ticket with ViewSonic.

None of mine exhibit any of this issue and I can confirm that any XG2431 that artifacts like this, is a confirmed warranty defect.

To create a ticket of your ViewSonic warranty claim — open a ticket at:
https://www.viewsonic.com/us/customer-service-form

Use the paperclip icon to attach the obvious warranty-claim photograph (the one you posted on Reddit).
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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by BYF » 11 Jun 2022, 06:37

BYF wrote:
09 Jun 2022, 09:07
Thanks for clarifying those points, very interesting.

I will try and demo an LG Oled, I read here that the new models don't support high BFI at 120hz, although I don't think it will be an issue as 99% of my gaming is at 60fps and I can live with non BFI motion clarity at 120hz.
Just to feedback on this I managed to demo the LG C1 OLED yesterday, took my console to store and some UFO tests. I have to say a superb TV for watching TV and Films but for gaming there's too many compromises for me. The drop in brightness with BFI is noticeable and degrades picture quality unless you play in the dark. Plus no VRR in BFI mode is more noticeable than I thought with occasional frame dips, plus BFI adds slightly more input lag. I ended up preffering game mode with VRR on and BFI off for smoother gameplay but motion clarity wasn't as good and I'll admit was rather disappointing at 60hz, 120hz games I was happy with the motion clarity.

So overall I'm no further on but did experience the benefits of VRR which I now want in my next display. For me BFI although effective has too many compromises. So now I think I'm better off looking for something with fastest possible pixel reponse with VRR without BFI. I know a complete reversal! Never thought I'd be writing this as motion clarity is my biggest gripe with flat panels. So I guess the question now is are there any cheaper options than the C1, or is the C1 or similar OLED still the best non BFI display with minimal blur.

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by 11440 » 12 Jun 2022, 22:50

I have sadly encountered a serious bug well after the return period of the store I bought the XG2431 from. Whenever PureXP is on the audio mutes when the input changes or turns on/off. I have to mute and unmute from the OSD each time. This occurs over both HDMI and DisplayPort and on both my laptop and PS4.

I've seen a couple of other reports of this problem in this thread. The problem not being more widespread suggests I have a defective unit, but it seems strange that there would be an inconsistent defect in the software. Is there a firmware update, or do I need to contact ViewSonic for warranty service?

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