ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by kyube » 22 Apr 2022, 19:52

Falkentyne wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 19:16
Boomchakadah wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 18:02
Falkentyne wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 15:23
Boomchakadah wrote:
21 Apr 2022, 17:11


I found how to access the service menu. I had to press and hold the middle menu button (There are 5 menu buttons). Unfortunately, there is no indication of how long the backlight has been running.
If this is a 6 bit +Hi-FRC monitor, then why is FRC turned off?
Could that be causing the eyestrain some people are having?
What happens if you turn it on?
I can't turn it on. https://streamable.com/pybm3i

This monitor causes me eyestrain too. The 1st time i used the monitor, I blamed the eyestrain i got on normal tiredness. Today is my second time using the monitor and after spending those few minutes recording that video, I immediately got eyestrain. It's not tiredness cause i literally just woke up and i was feeling great before using the monitor.
Chief? Any word about this?
I can't tag him.

What happens if you turn on "burn in" and then re-enter the factory menu? Do you have access to those options afterwards?
It seems strange that you have no access to the FRC or Overdrive (OD) setting there.
He has been quiet ever since people reported that the XG2431 isn't coming to EU :/

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Boomchakadah » 22 Apr 2022, 20:32

Falkentyne wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 19:16
Boomchakadah wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 18:02
Falkentyne wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 15:23
Boomchakadah wrote:
21 Apr 2022, 17:11


I found how to access the service menu. I had to press and hold the middle menu button (There are 5 menu buttons). Unfortunately, there is no indication of how long the backlight has been running.
If this is a 6 bit +Hi-FRC monitor, then why is FRC turned off?
Could that be causing the eyestrain some people are having?
What happens if you turn it on?
I can't turn it on. https://streamable.com/pybm3i

This monitor causes me eyestrain too. The 1st time i used the monitor, I blamed the eyestrain i got on normal tiredness. Today is my second time using the monitor and after spending those few minutes recording that video, I immediately got eyestrain. It's not tiredness cause i literally just woke up and i was feeling great before using the monitor.
Chief? Any word about this?
I can't tag him.

What happens if you turn on "burn in" and then re-enter the factory menu? Do you have access to those options afterwards?
It seems strange that you have no access to the FRC or Overdrive (OD) setting there.
Still can't access those options above EXIT.
That BURN IN setting has 3 options, OFF, PICTURE CHECK, and USER BURN. When I select either of those two options and then re-enter the service menu, they get reverted back to OFF and all my OSD settings get reverted back to default.
I also tried turning on DFM too and the same thing happens.
By the way, POT was on 5 before, now it's on 0 and i don't know how to put it back to 5. (i don't even know what that option does.)

EDIT: I believe ''POT'' means Power On Time/ how long the backlight has been running in hours.
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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by kyube » 22 Apr 2022, 20:37

Boomchakadah wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 20:32
Falkentyne wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 19:16
Boomchakadah wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 18:02
Falkentyne wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 15:23


If this is a 6 bit +Hi-FRC monitor, then why is FRC turned off?
Could that be causing the eyestrain some people are having?
What happens if you turn it on?
I can't turn it on. https://streamable.com/pybm3i

This monitor causes me eyestrain too. The 1st time i used the monitor, I blamed the eyestrain i got on normal tiredness. Today is my second time using the monitor and after spending those few minutes recording that video, I immediately got eyestrain. It's not tiredness cause i literally just woke up and i was feeling great before using the monitor.
Chief? Any word about this?
I can't tag him.

What happens if you turn on "burn in" and then re-enter the factory menu? Do you have access to those options afterwards?
It seems strange that you have no access to the FRC or Overdrive (OD) setting there.
Still can't access those options above EXIT.
That BURN IN setting has 3 options, OFF, PICTURE CHECK, and USER BURN. When I select either of those two options and then re-enter the service menu, they get reverted back to OFF and all my OSD settings get reverted back to default.
I also tried turning on DFM and the same thing happens.
By the way, POT was on 5 before, now it's on 0 and i don't know how to put it back to 5. (i don't even know what that option does.)
Are you using DisplayPort or HDMI? Try using HDMI, I've read that HDMI does much better with VT tweak, perhaps the monitor will do 6bit+frc through HDMI instead of DP?

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Boomchakadah » 22 Apr 2022, 21:07

kyube wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 20:37
Boomchakadah wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 20:32
Falkentyne wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 19:16
Boomchakadah wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 18:02

I can't turn it on. https://streamable.com/pybm3i

This monitor causes me eyestrain too. The 1st time i used the monitor, I blamed the eyestrain i got on normal tiredness. Today is my second time using the monitor and after spending those few minutes recording that video, I immediately got eyestrain. It's not tiredness cause i literally just woke up and i was feeling great before using the monitor.
Chief? Any word about this?
I can't tag him.

What happens if you turn on "burn in" and then re-enter the factory menu? Do you have access to those options afterwards?
It seems strange that you have no access to the FRC or Overdrive (OD) setting there.
Still can't access those options above EXIT.
That BURN IN setting has 3 options, OFF, PICTURE CHECK, and USER BURN. When I select either of those two options and then re-enter the service menu, they get reverted back to OFF and all my OSD settings get reverted back to default.
I also tried turning on DFM and the same thing happens.
By the way, POT was on 5 before, now it's on 0 and i don't know how to put it back to 5. (i don't even know what that option does.)

EDIT: I believe ''POT'' means Power On Time/ how long the backlight has been running in hours.
Are you using DisplayPort or HDMI? Try using HDMI, I've read that HDMI does much better with VT tweak, perhaps the monitor will do 6bit+frc through HDMI instead of DP?
I just tried a HDMI cable and it's still the same.
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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Boomchakadah » 23 Apr 2022, 00:32

Love wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 18:57
I've also checked my display and its using the AU Optronics M238FHM-NG2 and it was purchased around the Black Friday stock.. so not sure about it.
I can't find any info anywhere about that AUO panel. Mine is using a BOE panel (BOE MV238FHM-NG2) https://imgur.com/eI6R5W5
Do you experience eyestrain with your unit? Mine is killing me.
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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Love » 23 Apr 2022, 01:08

Boomchakadah wrote:
23 Apr 2022, 00:32
Love wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 18:57
I've also checked my display and its using the AU Optronics M238FHM-NG2 and it was purchased around the Black Friday stock.. so not sure about it.
I can't find any info anywhere about that AUO panel. Mine is using a BOE panel (BOE MV238FHM-NG2) https://imgur.com/eI6R5W5
Do you experience eyestrain with your unit? Mine
Hi,

I've been using the display for a few months now and do face eyestrain. The only solution for me was to keep the brightness low around 23 and I kept contrast default. I've also been using limited RGB. Perhaps give that a try? Its interesting because on my other panel I didn't have any eyestrain myself.

I'm not sure if BOE and AUO are separate but my unit also says BOE. TFT had listed with that model above and said AUO.. that information should be out shortly as the review is for early access only.

Edit: Regarding the POT setting under the other menu. Im not sure what to make out of it. Mine says 427 quite higher than yours but im also using HDMI as the main source too.

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by sodafly » 24 Apr 2022, 21:24

Boomchakadah wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 18:02
Falkentyne wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 15:23
Boomchakadah wrote:
21 Apr 2022, 17:11
kyube wrote:
21 Apr 2022, 05:20


Try turning the monitor off first. Hold the Menu button and turn the monitor on while you keep holding the menu button. Pressing the menu button again should pop up the service menu (at least this is how it's done on older Viewsonic models)
I found how to access the service menu. I had to press and hold the middle menu button (There are 5 menu buttons). Unfortunately, there is no indication of how long the backlight has been running.
If this is a 6 bit +Hi-FRC monitor, then why is FRC turned off?
Could that be causing the eyestrain some people are having?
What happens if you turn it on?
I can't turn it on. https://streamable.com/pybm3i

This monitor causes me eyestrain too. The 1st time i used the monitor, I blamed the eyestrain i got on normal tiredness. Today is my second time using the monitor and after spending those few minutes recording that video, I immediately got eyestrain. It's not tiredness cause i literally just woke up and i was feeling great before using the monitor.

Before someone asks, I'm not a fan of strobing so, PureXP was turned off.


More people that also suffer from the eye strain this monitor seems to cause, I get it with Pure xp on or off no matater what, Pure xp does not even bother me in the sense of getting headaches/dizzy but the monitor will give me eye strain no matter what I do. I have tried EVERY setting even playing with brightness at like 10 and digital vibranced lowered and it happens.

I then switched to my XG240R (Old tn 144hz monitor) which was MUCH brighter with 100% digital vibrance and played 2-3 hours of CSGO again without any issues, there is 100% something wrong with this pannel/monitor that is causing eye strain and for me I have already started a refund request with Amazon for it and will be looking to either get the Allienware240hz,Benq240hz 1080p monitors or the 1440p MAG274QRF which are all in a similar price range.

Also finding out this monitor does not use the pannel that everyone claimed it does is kind of a big warning sign to me, it seemed like everyone claimed it was using some new IPS pannel that was better but in the end it was the same as the ones the AOC monitors that are cheaper is using?

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by pllovervoltage » 25 Apr 2022, 07:43

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Loving the clarity so far. 60hz strobing definitly was headache inducing the first few days and i had to switch to to 120hz strobing. But 3/4 days in, I must've gotten used to it cuz I have 0 problems now w/ 60hz mode even on windows desktop lol. Personally, the strobing is only noticeable when the monitor is in my pheripheral vision.

Currently running it 60hz, vertical total 4500, and scanline sync in-game(set to -1). Along w/ purexp settings set to width 30, phase 60, and gain 5. It's definitely very dark however and black levels are indistinguishable even in a dark room at night. I had to bump black stabilization up a notch to 60 to see any actual difference in black levels. The colors also feel definitely off but I think i'd need to get a colorimeter to calibrate it correctly.

Clarity is absolutely amazing. But I feel the absolute absence of blur really shows how choppy 60hz games are lol. At first the choppiness of 0 blur 60hz gameplay was kinda off putting, then I got used to it and when I switched to my old monitor and damn I can't believe how blurry my old monitor was.

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by illuwa » 25 Apr 2022, 14:10

grayscalejay wrote:
05 Feb 2022, 02:15
Can anybody help me with this? after clicking continue I can set the levels and turn it on but is it even working, if I get that Microsoft.NET Framework error? also I tried using my phone camera and it doesn't flicker and the brightness doesn't change whatsoever so I assume it's not working at all.

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Hi, I just got this same error since updating the driver and was wondering if anyone knows a fix to it.
Pretty frustrating because I tried deleting/ reinstalling the driver and resetting the monitor in every way I can think of but it's still stuck in this way. Kind of at a loss as to what my options are because it seems to be an obscure issue that no one on the internet knows about.
  • I get the above InvalidArgument error when trying to use the Viewsonic Strobe Utility.
  • These features are greyed out and can't be used: PureXP backlight strobing, Contrast/Brightness, Color Temperature, Sharpness, Blue Light Filter, Overscan, Black Stablization, Advanced DCR. The whole View Mode tab is greyed out and can't be changed.
  • Turning HDR mode off turns the screen to washed colors and enables PureXP.

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Re: ViewSonic XG2431 Discussion Thread [Blur Busters Approved XG2431 - 24" 240Hz IPS with Best Strobing]

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 25 Apr 2022, 15:58

It's an out-of-bounds exception error -- thank you for reporting this.

This is caused by DDC values being out of range.

TEMPORARY FIX OPTIONS
(A) To fix this, run Entech SoftMCCS and reset the extended DDC values back to 0, before reloading ViewSonic Strobe Utility;
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(B) Another workaround is to temporarily edit ViewSonicStrobeUtility.ini and set maximum value to 255. Once done, launch, slide all values to 0, exit, and restore the old copy of ViewSonicStrobeUtility.ini. It will then function normally again.

This is already fixed in the next version of Strobe Utility. Out-of-range DDC values sometimes occur after a monitor firmware upgrade or a factory reset -- this creates the conditions to crash ViewSonic Strobe Utility.
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