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Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 08:18
by uwinho
uwinho wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 13:54
i have the MAG251RX and XL2540K on my desk to test them both and i kinda understand the ips has "less input delay" feeling but i highly doubt its actually a thing. i switched back and forth and i think the extra smoothness that comes from the tn because of the better motion clarity makes you think its some sort of delay cause the 240 ips feels kinda snappier. the thing is as soon as you get used to the tn smoothness it def. smokes the ips without a doubt cause you can see models so much clearer and everything becomes so natural. i also did alot of human benchmarks with 5 runs each and on my end the zowie always beat the msi with 10-15 ms on average. i think the way better motion clarity and the crazy boosted colours (super intense reds etc.) on the zowie r huge advantages when it comes to fps shooters like cs:go and valorant. the only ips that stands a chance against the new zowies is prob the 360 hz panel which i would love to try but 650 € is a little bit too much for my liking
so further testing done with both panels and i prob have to take that back and agree with sk1p :shock: the MAG251RX ips panel has some snappiness going on which the zowie is def missing. grinding cs dms etc. iv done some nasty rounds with the msi hitting almost 2 kd on warmup servers where even pros r playing. it feels like that shots def connect way better on the msi compared to the zowie and the mouse feels snappier and more crisp. even with bad pings like 70 and 64 tick on mm shots were connecting pretty nice and everything felt still nice and crisp, def something i didnt experienced before coming from a 144 tn. for me the msi feels way closer to the old crt with 0 input lag compared to the zowie. so yeah im most likely gonna send the zowie back but im def gonna miss the colour tuning of the zowie big time :(

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 08:50
by reffp
now im between the MAG251RX and the asus vg259qm..so disappointed with the vg258

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 08:52
by jb_gade324
RTINGS full review on the vg258qm is up

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 09:56
by sk1p
uwinho wrote:
29 Mar 2021, 08:18
uwinho wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 13:54
i have the MAG251RX and XL2540K on my desk to test them both and i kinda understand the ips has "less input delay" feeling but i highly doubt its actually a thing. i switched back and forth and i think the extra smoothness that comes from the tn because of the better motion clarity makes you think its some sort of delay cause the 240 ips feels kinda snappier. the thing is as soon as you get used to the tn smoothness it def. smokes the ips without a doubt cause you can see models so much clearer and everything becomes so natural. i also did alot of human benchmarks with 5 runs each and on my end the zowie always beat the msi with 10-15 ms on average. i think the way better motion clarity and the crazy boosted colours (super intense reds etc.) on the zowie r huge advantages when it comes to fps shooters like cs:go and valorant. the only ips that stands a chance against the new zowies is prob the 360 hz panel which i would love to try but 650 € is a little bit too much for my liking
so further testing done with both panels and i prob have to take that back and agree with sk1p :shock: the MAG251RX ips panel has some snappiness going on which the zowie is def missing. grinding cs dms etc. iv done some nasty rounds with the msi hitting almost 2 kd on warmup servers where even pros r playing. it feels like that shots def connect way better on the msi compared to the zowie and the mouse feels snappier and more crisp. even with bad pings like 70 and 64 tick on mm shots were connecting pretty nice and everything felt still nice and crisp, def something i didnt experienced before coming from a 144 tn. for me the msi feels way closer to the old crt with 0 input lag compared to the zowie. so yeah im most likely gonna send the zowie back but im def gonna miss the colour tuning of the zowie big time :(
I tried many TN's 240hz and they every had that issue that I could not be consistent in CS GO as with my old asus vg248qe(144hz TN), but then I tried vg279qm and other IPS 240hz - they all felt like old kind CRT monitors, but of course TN's have better clarity. idk why it happens with 240hz TN's ... ,but I connected it only with input lag.

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 10:13
by reffp
jb_gade324 wrote:
29 Mar 2021, 08:52
RTINGS full review on the vg258qm is up
thanks , was waiting

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 14:07
by axaro1
The VG258QM review from RTings is available https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/ ... ng-vg258qm

From what I can see from RTings motion clarity tests, it looks very good with Level 3 overdrive, IMO it's a little bit better than the XL2546K and the VG259QM when set to Level 3 and it's noticeably better than something like the AW2521HF.

VG258QM (Level 3)
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XL2546K (AMA High)
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VG259QM (OD 60)
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AW2521HF (Fast)
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On a side note, great choice by Asus to add "Clarity Levels" when using ELMB.

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 14:33
by Nm_kng
I’ve ordered an XL2546K twice. First time it got cancelled by amazon and the 2nd time I cancelled it, because I wanted to see how it performs compared to the VG258QM. I’m in a weird situation rn and idk which one I should get. Asus got an older panel so I thought it would perform worse (it didn’t) which is weird since the XL2546K has a newer panel. Did Asus modify it or something?

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 15:16
by masterblaster
Sweet. A first review on it. As what I kind of guessed, its pretty similar to the IPS version 9QM. Not sure if theres really any benefits to the 8QM. The IPS 9QM would have better colors and contrast. Maybe the 8QM has slightly better overdrive it looks like, but is of course worse in every other area.

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 15:49
by ezbill
masterblaster wrote:
29 Mar 2021, 15:16
Sweet. A first review on it. As what I kind of guessed, its pretty similar to the IPS version 9QM. Not sure if theres really any benefits to the 8QM. The IPS 9QM would have better colors and contrast. Maybe the 8QM has slightly better overdrive it looks like, but is of course worse in every other area.
the only really issue is the viewing angles, the 9QM still has a bad contrast compare to VA.

I have ordered the alienware AW2521HF, I know is not better in term of response time but I found it for 200 euros.

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 17:15
by reffp
ezbill wrote:
29 Mar 2021, 15:49
masterblaster wrote:
29 Mar 2021, 15:16
Sweet. A first review on it. As what I kind of guessed, its pretty similar to the IPS version 9QM. Not sure if theres really any benefits to the 8QM. The IPS 9QM would have better colors and contrast. Maybe the 8QM has slightly better overdrive it looks like, but is of course worse in every other area.
the only really issue is the viewing angles, the 9QM still has a bad contrast compare to VA.

I have ordered the alienware AW2521HF, I know is not better in term of response time but I found it for 200 euros.

god dammm , what a steal of a deal , second hand or new?