BenQ XL2546K 240hz vs Alienware AW2521H 360hz

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Re: BenQ XL2546K 240hz vs Alienware AW2521H 360hz

Post by masterblaster » 22 Mar 2021, 08:10

Tea Punk wrote:
21 Mar 2021, 14:35
I just got my VG258QM and I'm now a TN fan, so I wouldn't tell people what to buy or avoid without at least mentioning the reason for your dislike. Out of the box colors looked even better than my PG279Q when calibrated to the best of my ability. I am SO happy with this monitor. My only considerations prior were the IPS version VG259QM, the Zowie X25F, and was researching the comparative MSI, Alienware, and other options. I gambled that this new TN would fix the complaints about the IPS version not being as fast, and was hoping it'd be at least on par with the Zowie or better in speed and color. With my experience so far, I think it really does, I LOVE this TN and the downsides are not a factor for me. I'm sure the pro reviewers will have the critiques about all the things I can't notice so far, but for it's price and my accumulation of competitors reviews I'm pretty sure about my gut feeling that this is the best new, or definitely at least one of, considerations for a gaming 240hz.

And yes, it's okay that people will be polarized about IPS or TN, I'm not saying one is better than the other, I'm sure I haven't seen every IPS and I might like one yet. But after 3 years of owning an 1440p 144hz IPS (where tanks and infantry can literally blur into rocks right in front of me no matter my color/contrast adjustment attempts) I can factually say that at least this is so superior in every way to the one I owned (specifically, not generalizing, I know I haven't seen newer IPS). I can now discern targets at any distance and hold over them with confidence. And it's just for sure faster and I wouldn't want to give this up for any "superior" IPS colors because this is good enough for me. All my games look better than ever I can't complain about that. I'm hyped again to get up and play all my old games again because it looks like seeing them for the first time again.
I am in the middle of figuring out what monitor to buy myself, can you go into detail as to why you like the new VG258QM over like Xl2546K or the IPS VG259QM? I was just considering buying the VG259QM, why would someone want the TN version instead? Wouldnt the VG259QM have better colors and should be close to the same performance? I was getting pretty close to pulling the trigger on these two monitors so now wondering if I should give the VG258QM a shot.... Why is this new TN better than previous ones, or even the BenQ XL2546K?

daviddave1 wrote:
22 Mar 2021, 05:52
I think i am going for the BenQ XL2546K cause i mostly play PUBG, Quake Live (game is hardcapped at 250fps) and MW Warzone. So my frames wont go higher then 250 fps anyway. The colors are more vibrant on the BENQ from my understanding. Still not 100% though cause of Diablo 4....

I am not suggesting you should definitively purchase the XL2546K but its still one of the best for FPS games. In terms of scrollers like LoL or diablo etc, its almost a moot point. It doesnt really matter what monitor you use for scrollers so the XL2546K would be fine. I play Mobos on a 60hz monitor and I dont notice that much difference.... The monitor makes little difference for those type of games. I am not sure I would have that as a factor.

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Re: BenQ XL2546K 240hz vs Alienware AW2521H 360hz

Post by daviddave1 » 22 Mar 2021, 08:51

masterblaster wrote:
22 Mar 2021, 08:10

I am in the middle of figuring out what monitor to buy myself, can you go into detail as to why you like the new VG258QM over like Xl2546K or the IPS VG259QM? I was just considering buying the VG259QM, why would someone want the TN version instead? Wouldnt the VG259QM have better colors and should be close to the same performance? I was getting pretty close to pulling the trigger on these two monitors so now wondering if I should give the VG258QM a shot.... Why is this new TN better than previous ones, or even the BenQ XL2546K?
The VG259QM has more inputlag then the Xl2546K. Ive seen here that a couple of posters returned it cause it had notable more input lag then even a 144 hz TN monitor.
| Now: ASUS PG248QP 540Hz. | Past : VG259QM with the Qisda panel/PG27AQN/XL2566K

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Re: BenQ XL2546K 240hz vs Alienware AW2521H 360hz

Post by masterblaster » 22 Mar 2021, 09:05

daviddave1 wrote:
22 Mar 2021, 08:51
masterblaster wrote:
22 Mar 2021, 08:10

I am in the middle of figuring out what monitor to buy myself, can you go into detail as to why you like the new VG258QM over like Xl2546K or the IPS VG259QM? I was just considering buying the VG259QM, why would someone want the TN version instead? Wouldnt the VG259QM have better colors and should be close to the same performance? I was getting pretty close to pulling the trigger on these two monitors so now wondering if I should give the VG258QM a shot.... Why is this new TN better than previous ones, or even the BenQ XL2546K?
The VG259QM has more inputlag then the Xl2546K. Ive seen here that a couple of posters returned it cause it had notable more input lag then even a 144 hz TN monitor.

The question I was kind of asking there is regarding the VG258QM, not really of the VG259QM. And I would have to assume the input lag on the VG259QM is still fairly negligible in real world use.

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Re: BenQ XL2546K 240hz vs Alienware AW2521H 360hz

Post by axaro1 » 22 Mar 2021, 09:09

daviddave1 wrote:
22 Mar 2021, 08:51
The VG259QM has more inputlag then the Xl2546K. Ive seen here that a couple of posters returned it cause it had notable more input lag then even a 144 hz TN monitor.
The VG259QM doesn't have higher input lag than the XL2546K when bot are set to their native refresh rate.
The VG259QM has 1.9ms of input lag and the XL2546K has 2.3ms of input lag according to RTings, due to being able to run at 280hz the Asus theoretically shows you the first input 0.6ms faster than when set to 240hz so it could explain the input lag variance.

Concretely you won't notice any input lag difference.

The VG259QM has high input lag only when used with a fixed 60hz refresh rate so don't buy it if you want to use it with a console. 280hz with Adaptive Sync enabled will get rid of every input lag penalty if you want to cap at lower fps.
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Re: BenQ XL2546K 240hz vs Alienware AW2521H 360hz

Post by daviddave1 » 22 Mar 2021, 09:55

axaro1 wrote:
22 Mar 2021, 09:09
daviddave1 wrote:
22 Mar 2021, 08:51
The VG259QM has more inputlag then the Xl2546K. Ive seen here that a couple of posters returned it cause it had notable more input lag then even a 144 hz TN monitor.
The VG259QM doesn't have higher input lag than the XL2546K when bot are set to their native refresh rate.
The VG259QM has 1.9ms of input lag and the XL2546K has 2.3ms of input lag according to RTings, due to being able to run at 280hz the Asus theoretically shows you the first input 0.6ms faster than when set to 240hz so it could explain the input lag variance.

Concretely you won't notice any input lag difference.

The VG259QM has high input lag only when used with a fixed 60hz refresh rate so don't buy it if you want to use it with a console. 280hz with Adaptive Sync enabled will get rid of every input lag penalty if you want to cap at lower fps.
interesting. i am almost 100% sure someone here on the forum returned the monitor and went back to his 144hz monitor cause he could not get the same amount of frags. i have searched just now but could not find it.. maybe it was reddit. ty though for the input!!!
| Now: ASUS PG248QP 540Hz. | Past : VG259QM with the Qisda panel/PG27AQN/XL2566K

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Re: BenQ XL2546K 240hz vs Alienware AW2521H 360hz

Post by masterblaster » 22 Mar 2021, 10:18

daviddave1 wrote:
22 Mar 2021, 09:55

interesting. i am almost 100% sure someone here on the forum returned the monitor and went back to his 144hz monitor cause he could not get the same amount of frags. i have searched just now but could not find it.. maybe it was reddit. ty though for the input!!!
I mean, because one or a few rando's make comments on something should never be passed on as fact. You never know how much intelligence/experience someone has just from some perceived subjective comments or actions.



I just want someone to do an in-depth review or test out the Asus VG258QM. Maybe ill just buy one myself and test it.

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Re: BenQ XL2546K 240hz vs Alienware AW2521H 360hz

Post by daviddave1 » 22 Mar 2021, 10:22

masterblaster wrote:
22 Mar 2021, 10:18
daviddave1 wrote:
22 Mar 2021, 09:55

interesting. i am almost 100% sure someone here on the forum returned the monitor and went back to his 144hz monitor cause he could not get the same amount of frags. i have searched just now but could not find it.. maybe it was reddit. ty though for the input!!!
I mean, because one or a few rando's make comments on something should never be passed on as fact. You never know how much intelligence/experience someone has just from some perceived subjective comments or actions.



I just want someone to do an in-depth review or test out the Asus VG258QM. Maybe ill just buy one myself and test it.
ofcourse, but its very welcome information for consideration imo.
| Now: ASUS PG248QP 540Hz. | Past : VG259QM with the Qisda panel/PG27AQN/XL2566K

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Re: BenQ XL2546K 240hz vs Alienware AW2521H 360hz

Post by drmcninja » 22 Mar 2021, 11:05

I can't speak for the XL2546K but my XL2546 felt better at 144-182Hz strobed than 240Hz strobed in terms of input lag even though my model's 240Hz strobed/DyAc was practically flawless in visual clarity in the UFO test. I just couldn't explain it. It just looked clear and felt more snappy at the lower refresh. The biggest boost in clarity came with FastSync, however (FastSync at 182Hz = 364fps lock, which was a sweet spot for Overwatch). Turns out the frame sync was more important for clarity than strobing, so I decided to try the AW2521H which has the less laggy G-Sync.

The AW2521H's 240Hz ULMB/strobed mode is also pretty good. Not as bright as the XL2546, but very very playable, not much strobe crosstalk, and much brighter than my very old first generation Lightboost 144Hz screens I used to play with back in the day. I can't speak to whether there's more or less input lag because the Overdrive option is disabled when ULMB is on with the Alienware. The fact it can do 240Hz strobed may be the final reason I need to make my decision on which monitor to stick with.

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Re: BenQ XL2546K 240hz vs Alienware AW2521H 360hz

Post by Otad » 22 Mar 2021, 12:13

I'm waiting for my new xl2546k and I will probably buy the PG259QN for a low price so I can compare these two monitors :)

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Re: BenQ XL2546K 240hz vs Alienware AW2521H 360hz

Post by Falkentyne » 22 Mar 2021, 15:19

drmcninja wrote:
22 Mar 2021, 11:05
I can't speak for the XL2546K but my XL2546 felt better at 144-182Hz strobed than 240Hz strobed in terms of input lag even though my model's 240Hz strobed/DyAc was practically flawless in visual clarity in the UFO test. I just couldn't explain it. It just looked clear and felt more snappy at the lower refresh. The biggest boost in clarity came with FastSync, however (FastSync at 182Hz = 364fps lock, which was a sweet spot for Overwatch). Turns out the frame sync was more important for clarity than strobing, so I decided to try the AW2521H which has the less laggy G-Sync.

The AW2521H's 240Hz ULMB/strobed mode is also pretty good. Not as bright as the XL2546, but very very playable, not much strobe crosstalk, and much brighter than my very old first generation Lightboost 144Hz screens I used to play with back in the day. I can't speak to whether there's more or less input lag because the Overdrive option is disabled when ULMB is on with the Alienware. The fact it can do 240Hz strobed may be the final reason I need to make my decision on which monitor to stick with.
The XL2546 may need a custom VT for 240hz.
The default 240hz timings in my XL2746S felt weird and had a strange microstutter effect.

Try these
1920x1080@240 in ToastyX CRU (don't use the NVCP).

Front porch 24,3
Sync width 32,5
Back porch 25,152
Horizontal Total: 2001
Vertical Total: 1240
Refresh rate: 240.000 hz
Pixel clock 595.50

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