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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by Notty_PT » 23 Sep 2021, 08:07

AOC 24G2Z uses an IPS panel, not TN! Same panel as Viewsonic XG2431 highly recomended by Chief, altho not available on Europe, and same as Asus XG249CM 270hz (overclocked) model

They are all 23,8 inch panels with better PPI, a lot crispier than 25 inches 1080p and amazing response times as you can check on reviews

Yes, asus 360hz monitor is very responsive to the mouse, no debates. Fastest one, but pixel response time and overahoot are not good enough to me and it distracts me too much

Same with the Acer Nitro

You can easily notice this if you put a good 240hz panel side by side with 360hz

Btw the last AMD drivers removed the 390hz refresh rate option. I know I can use CRU but would like to ask if anyone else had this problem

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by lizardpeter » 23 Sep 2021, 08:45

Notty_PT wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 08:07
AOC 24G2Z uses an IPS panel, not TN!
I was getting my information from their website here (https://us.aoc.com/en-US/gaming/products/monitors/24g2z). What am I missing? Is it wrong on their website?

But yeah, I see your point. I know that the response time on these 360 Hz panels leaves a lot to be desired.
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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by Notty_PT » 23 Sep 2021, 08:50

The model I refer to, is this one, with 0,5ms IPS 23,8 240hz panel

https://eu.aoc.com/en/gaming/products/m ... /24g2zu-bk

Sorry for the confusão

Wish there was a Viewsomic xg2431 in Europe so I could test it

Asus XG249CM is launching soon too, same panel, overclocked.

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/23-to-24- ... 9cm-model/

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by Notty_PT » 23 Sep 2021, 10:45

Well it is official. After installing the latest AMD gpu drivers I lost the 390hz option.

Rolling back to the previous drivers didn't help and I do not know the exact timings/vales to use with CRU.

Did anyone have this problem? I guess everyone uses Nvidia :D

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by Zace » 23 Sep 2021, 11:01

Notty_PT wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 08:07
AOC 24G2Z uses an IPS panel, not TN! Same panel as Viewsonic XG2431 highly recomended by Chief, altho not available on Europe, and same as Asus XG249CM 270hz (overclocked) model

They are all 23,8 inch panels with better PPI, a lot crispier than 25 inches 1080p and amazing response times as you can check on reviews

Yes, asus 360hz monitor is very responsive to the mouse, no debates. Fastest one, but pixel response time and overahoot are not good enough to me and it distracts me too much

Same with the Acer Nitro

You can easily notice this if you put a good 240hz panel side by side with 360hz

Btw the last AMD drivers removed the 390hz refresh rate option. I know I can use CRU but would like to ask if anyone else had this problem
There’s no way the 240 panel have faster response time than the nitro. Also nitro with VRB is extra clear.

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by Notty_PT » 23 Sep 2021, 11:45

Zace wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 11:01
Notty_PT wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 08:07
AOC 24G2Z uses an IPS panel, not TN! Same panel as Viewsonic XG2431 highly recomended by Chief, altho not available on Europe, and same as Asus XG249CM 270hz (overclocked) model

They are all 23,8 inch panels with better PPI, a lot crispier than 25 inches 1080p and amazing response times as you can check on reviews

Yes, asus 360hz monitor is very responsive to the mouse, no debates. Fastest one, but pixel response time and overahoot are not good enough to me and it distracts me too much

Same with the Acer Nitro

You can easily notice this if you put a good 240hz panel side by side with 360hz

Btw the last AMD drivers removed the 390hz refresh rate option. I know I can use CRU but would like to ask if anyone else had this problem
There’s no way the 240 panel have faster response time than the nitro. Also nitro with VRB is extra clear.
Even Acer Nitro XV25 has better response times at 240hz. Try it and compare with 390hz. You can notice a lot less ghosting even on desktop. What does this mean? It means the current 360hz panels do not have fast enough pixel response times for 360hz yet, just like the first 240hz. I am almost sure Chief already mentioned this.

As for strobing on this model, I don´t understand how can someone like this strobing with so much better options for that scenario. I mean all it does is increase the input lag, add flicker (possibly headache) for a bit of crosstalk on the image that only makes things worse.

As always, my personal opinion. Try to play at 240hz for a bit and report back about the response times, everything will be suddenly clearer... even tho laggier because it was not meant to be used with a 240hz refresh.

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by Zace » 23 Sep 2021, 14:07

Notty_PT wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 11:45
Zace wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 11:01
Notty_PT wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 08:07
AOC 24G2Z uses an IPS panel, not TN! Same panel as Viewsonic XG2431 highly recomended by Chief, altho not available on Europe, and same as Asus XG249CM 270hz (overclocked) model

They are all 23,8 inch panels with better PPI, a lot crispier than 25 inches 1080p and amazing response times as you can check on reviews

Yes, asus 360hz monitor is very responsive to the mouse, no debates. Fastest one, but pixel response time and overahoot are not good enough to me and it distracts me too much

Same with the Acer Nitro

You can easily notice this if you put a good 240hz panel side by side with 360hz

Btw the last AMD drivers removed the 390hz refresh rate option. I know I can use CRU but would like to ask if anyone else had this problem
There’s no way the 240 panel have faster response time than the nitro. Also nitro with VRB is extra clear.
Even Acer Nitro XV25 has better response times at 240hz. Try it and compare with 390hz. You can notice a lot less ghosting even on desktop. What does this mean? It means the current 360hz panels do not have fast enough pixel response times for 360hz yet, just like the first 240hz. I am almost sure Chief already mentioned this.

As for strobing on this model, I don´t understand how can someone like this strobing with so much better options for that scenario. I mean all it does is increase the input lag, add flicker (possibly headache) for a bit of crosstalk on the image that only makes things worse.

As always, my personal opinion. Try to play at 240hz for a bit and report back about the response times, everything will be suddenly clearer... even tho laggier because it was not meant to be used with a 240hz refresh.
After trying 240hz on nitro I have to say 240hz is a little bit clearer. But the lack of frames makes it looks as if it’s skipping a bit, on the other hand 390hz adds soo much smoothness and it’s almost just as clear. However in terms of in game, the 390hz is clear enough with much better tracking as there’s more frames, the 240hz extra bit of clarity is obsolete.

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by BTRY B 529th FA BN » 23 Sep 2021, 14:31

Just put the Acer AOPEN 390Hz monitor on Reserve this morning for pick up within 3 days.. 30 day return policy... with my PG259QNR I've been playing with Fixed Refresh + Vsync On in NVCP. I was using ULMB + Vsync On and that was nice but I'm interesting in seeing how strobbing works with Vsyc On at 390Hz.. Will probably try the XG2431 also

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by Notty_PT » 23 Sep 2021, 14:41

Zace wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 14:07
Notty_PT wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 11:45
Zace wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 11:01
Notty_PT wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 08:07
AOC 24G2Z uses an IPS panel, not TN! Same panel as Viewsonic XG2431 highly recomended by Chief, altho not available on Europe, and same as Asus XG249CM 270hz (overclocked) model

They are all 23,8 inch panels with better PPI, a lot crispier than 25 inches 1080p and amazing response times as you can check on reviews

Yes, asus 360hz monitor is very responsive to the mouse, no debates. Fastest one, but pixel response time and overahoot are not good enough to me and it distracts me too much

Same with the Acer Nitro

You can easily notice this if you put a good 240hz panel side by side with 360hz

Btw the last AMD drivers removed the 390hz refresh rate option. I know I can use CRU but would like to ask if anyone else had this problem
There’s no way the 240 panel have faster response time than the nitro. Also nitro with VRB is extra clear.
Even Acer Nitro XV25 has better response times at 240hz. Try it and compare with 390hz. You can notice a lot less ghosting even on desktop. What does this mean? It means the current 360hz panels do not have fast enough pixel response times for 360hz yet, just like the first 240hz. I am almost sure Chief already mentioned this.

As for strobing on this model, I don´t understand how can someone like this strobing with so much better options for that scenario. I mean all it does is increase the input lag, add flicker (possibly headache) for a bit of crosstalk on the image that only makes things worse.

As always, my personal opinion. Try to play at 240hz for a bit and report back about the response times, everything will be suddenly clearer... even tho laggier because it was not meant to be used with a 240hz refresh.
After trying 240hz on nitro I have to say 240hz is a little bit clearer. But the lack of frames makes it looks as if it’s skipping a bit, on the other hand 390hz adds soo much smoothness and it’s almost just as clear. However in terms of in game, the 390hz is clear enough with much better tracking as there’s more frames, the 240hz extra bit of clarity is obsolete.
Of course! If you are running a game with more than 240fps you will for sure notice it at 240hz, while at 390hz your monitor will display every frame. I mean, that is easily noticeable, but does it make you play better with all that blur fest? It does nothing for me on Quake, I track way worse as the images are not clear. And what about fast flicks? Total nightmare compared to a good and matured 240hz panel

With these models I feel like playing on an very low input lag responsive mouse, with no frame skipping at all

but...

coupled with "10 years ago" awful pixel response time levels.

Maybe the upcoming TN 0,5ms 360hz panels, releasing soon, will be faster. I guess.

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by lizardpeter » 23 Sep 2021, 15:09

Notty_PT wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 14:41
Maybe the upcoming TN 0,5ms 360hz panels, releasing soon, will be faster. I guess.
Where’d you see that TN 360 Hz monitors were coming out soon?
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