Hey there,
A couple of months ago I bought a Lenovo Y-25, a 240Hz IPS monitor. Since then, I noticed that when I open the CMD, the terminal of Windows, my screen automatically presents some image retention.
If I close the CMD instantly the problem disappears, but if I keep the CMD open, the problem gets worse, the image retention persists and I'm forced to put some of these "LCD dead pixel tests" videos in YouTube or the monitor will stay with the image retention even after waiting for hours.
Until now, I've been dealing with the issue opening the CMD in my other screen, but I wanted to expose the problem in the forum just to see if anybody can figure out a solution. It is weird, because with Windows PowerShell or the terminals that are embedded in IDE (such as IDEA IntelliJ or Sublime with the Terminal plugin) it doesn't happen, but when I open a normal CMD or the WSL terminal, the image retention appears. This is reason I can't see the pattern in this behaviour, why the Powershell is OK and the CMD not?
Looking forward to read your opinion.
Thanks!
Imagen retention when open CMD on Lenovo Y-25 240Hz IPS
Imagen retention when open CMD on Lenovo Y-25 240Hz IPS
Last edited by Truenozz on 10 Jun 2021, 02:07, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Imagen retention when open CMD on Lenovo Y-25
I just took some pictures in order to show the problem itself. In these pictures the image retention is hardly appreciate, in real life you can feel it more.
Here, you can see what happens when I open a CMD:
See attachments, img1.jpg
Here, when I close it, you can see that stills some problems in the top of the Google Chrome's tab name:
See attachments, img2.jpg
Finally, after waiting a few seconds, it comes back to normal:
[img]https://i.gyazo.com/a805479f2b168a6349d ... e40d73.jpg
See attachments, img3.jpg
Any clues? Do you think I should return the monitor and look for alternatives?
Thanks!
Here, you can see what happens when I open a CMD:
See attachments, img1.jpg
Here, when I close it, you can see that stills some problems in the top of the Google Chrome's tab name:
See attachments, img2.jpg
Finally, after waiting a few seconds, it comes back to normal:
[img]https://i.gyazo.com/a805479f2b168a6349d ... e40d73.jpg
See attachments, img3.jpg
Any clues? Do you think I should return the monitor and look for alternatives?
Thanks!
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- After closing CMD
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- With CMD Opened
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Re: Imagen retention when open CMD on Lenovo Y-25 240Hz IPS
Similiar problem occurs in Dell AW2521HF. It's something about output color format. Try to switch to YCBRC444 in graphic card panel for testing. In my case (with Dell) the solution is to increase/decrease contrast by 1, but it only helps for particular situation. I use to live with that.
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Re: Imagen retention when open CMD on Lenovo Y-25 240Hz IPS
I attribute this not-fully-diagnosed firmware bugs, and this is partially why I am a huge advocate of firmware-upgradeable gaming monitors.
Inversion algorithms in the firmware is designed to prevent this, but sometimes certain modes make it less effective, or 'accidentally' disables the protective inversion algorithm during certain conditions (without being revealed by the firmware testers), causing image retention to occur on the LCD.
Why Image Retention / Burn-In Sometimes Occur On LCDs
As for the solution, it depends. You can try to squash the color gamut by raising black levels by 1 or 2 pixel-color-levels, since complete black (RGB(0,0,0) usually is the culprit triggering a specific kind of firmware bug related to burn in). So try narrowing your color range a bit by reducing contrast a smidge, as suggested. Even 1 tick may actually solve the problem -- you want to brighten your blacks to RGB(1,1,1) or RGB(2,2,2) or similar shade.
Inversion algorithms in the firmware is designed to prevent this, but sometimes certain modes make it less effective, or 'accidentally' disables the protective inversion algorithm during certain conditions (without being revealed by the firmware testers), causing image retention to occur on the LCD.
Why Image Retention / Burn-In Sometimes Occur On LCDs
As for the solution, it depends. You can try to squash the color gamut by raising black levels by 1 or 2 pixel-color-levels, since complete black (RGB(0,0,0) usually is the culprit triggering a specific kind of firmware bug related to burn in). So try narrowing your color range a bit by reducing contrast a smidge, as suggested. Even 1 tick may actually solve the problem -- you want to brighten your blacks to RGB(1,1,1) or RGB(2,2,2) or similar shade.
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