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Is HP X24IH good for competitive gaming?

Post by srcn90 » 05 Jun 2021, 15:42

I will switch my 1440P monitor to 1080P. It's hard to choose one. I want IPS but fastest response time and also budget... So I saw that HP X24IH and it looks good on paper. The question is will this monitor's brightness be lower when you set it 1 MS mode? (I have this issue now on my VX2758-2KP-MHD) And second que: If you compare it with XG2402, is there huge differences? I don't want to compromise on colors but also don't want to have high input lag. The only game I play is PUBG. By the way, I love high brigthness and high contrast, mostly maximum level. I do not respect my eyes. :D Is HP X24IH good for me or do you suggest anything else?

Summary: I need a budget IPS monitor that has low response time and low input lag. (1080P and 144 HZ)
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Re: Is HP X24IH good for competitive gaming?

Post by RealNC » 05 Jun 2021, 17:38

Why switch to 1080p?
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Re: Is HP X24IH good for competitive gaming?

Post by srcn90 » 06 Jun 2021, 02:40

RealNC wrote:
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Why switch to 1080p?

I want more FPS, my GPU is not enough for 1440P.

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Re: Is HP X24IH good for competitive gaming?

Post by srcn90 » 06 Jun 2021, 16:03

Where is my post? I just tried to edit and it's gone. :/

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Re: Is HP X24IH good for competitive gaming?

Post by RealNC » 06 Jun 2021, 17:35

srcn90 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 02:40
I want more FPS, my GPU is not enough for 1440P.
You can still play at 1080p on a 1440p display. On NVidia GPUs, go the profile for the game you want to play at 1080p and enable sharpness and set it to 36%. If you're on an AMD GPU, enable Radeon Image Sharpening.

This is what I do on my 1440p display for games I can't run at 1440p and it looks quite nice.
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Re: Is HP X24IH good for competitive gaming?

Post by disq » 06 Jun 2021, 18:06

RealNC wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:35
On NVidia GPUs, go the profile for the game you want to play at 1080p and enable sharpness and set it to 36%.
You mean it like this?
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Also, is there any "math" to this or it's just your personal preference?

Sorry for the hijack comment

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Post by RealNC » 06 Jun 2021, 18:39

disq wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 18:06
You mean it like this?
Yeah.
Also, is there any "math" to this or it's just your personal preference?
It's the result of a lot of alt-tabbing to see which setting matches the subjective sharpness of 1440p when playing at 1080p :mrgreen: 36-40% seems to match it best, so I usually go with 38%. For 900p (1600x900), 44% seems OK.

The way to figure it out is to take a screenshot of a game at native 1440p (without sharpening, of course), then switch the game to 1080p with sharpening, make sure the game is in exactly the same location as the 1440p screenshot, and then quickly alt+tab between the game and the fullscreen screenshot to compare the subjective sharpness between the two. For me, 38% sharpness seems to match the 1080p image to the sharpness of 1440p.

This however will change with different GPUs. I use GPU scaling on a GTX 980 Ti, which uses bilinear upscaling which needs more sharpening. GPU scaling on a Turing GPU (like a 1070 or 1080) uses a different scaling algorithm (I think bicubic instead of bilinear), which probably needs less sharpening. If you use display scaling instead of GPU scaling, then it depends on what scaling algorithm the monitor uses. So you need to find out the perfect sharpening value yourself by doing the alt-tab comparison between 1080p game and 1440p screenshot.
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Re: Is HP X24IH good for competitive gaming?

Post by disq » 06 Jun 2021, 20:12

RealNC wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 18:39
It's the result of a lot of alt-tabbing to see which setting matches the subjective sharpness of 1440p when playing at 1080p :mrgreen: 36-40% seems to match it best, so I usually go with 38%. For 900p (1600x900), 44% seems OK.
That's why i asked, because i tend to use another resolutions (1680x1050 / 1728x1080) and if there was some kind of "math" to that it would be easier to follow :D
Thanks for your input!
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This however will change with different GPUs. I use GPU scaling on a GTX 980 Ti, which uses bilinear upscaling which needs more sharpening. GPU scaling on a Turing GPU (like a 1070 or 1080) uses a different scaling algorithm (I think bicubic instead of bilinear), which probably needs less sharpening.
1070 is what i use and it's Pascal, not Turing :P you probably mixed those up
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If you use display scaling instead of GPU scaling, then it depends on what scaling algorithm the monitor uses.
I wish. I have the same monitor as you btw :mrgreen: which unfortunately doesn't provide display scaling via DisplayPort, and HDMI won't go as far as 144Hz afaik

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Re: Is HP X24IH good for competitive gaming?

Post by srcn90 » 07 Jun 2021, 10:08

RealNC wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 18:39
disq wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 18:06
You mean it like this?
Yeah.
Also, is there any "math" to this or it's just your personal preference?
It's the result of a lot of alt-tabbing to see which setting matches the subjective sharpness of 1440p when playing at 1080p :mrgreen: 36-40% seems to match it best, so I usually go with 38%. For 900p (1600x900), 44% seems OK.

The way to figure it out is to take a screenshot of a game at native 1440p (without sharpening, of course), then switch the game to 1080p with sharpening, make sure the game is in exactly the same location as the 1440p screenshot, and then quickly alt+tab between the game and the fullscreen screenshot to compare the subjective sharpness between the two. For me, 38% sharpness seems to match the 1080p image to the sharpness of 1440p.

This however will change with different GPUs. I use GPU scaling on a GTX 980 Ti, which uses bilinear upscaling which needs more sharpening. GPU scaling on a Turing GPU (like a 1070 or 1080) uses a different scaling algorithm (I think bicubic instead of bilinear), which probably needs less sharpening. If you use display scaling instead of GPU scaling, then it depends on what scaling algorithm the monitor uses. So you need to find out the perfect sharpening value yourself by doing the alt-tab comparison between 1080p game and 1440p screenshot.
I will try this. My GPU (RTX 3060) is on the way from Japan. :) You say that I will not have any blur if I do correct settings, right? Maybe won't be as good as like true 1080p monitor but it will be good, that's what I understand. Then another question; If I set my resolution as 1080p on 1440p monitor, will be any disadvantages? Maybe more input lag or less HZ or more response time? Any idea about that? Thanks again.

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Re: Is HP X24IH good for competitive gaming?

Post by RealNC » 07 Jun 2021, 13:12

srcn90 wrote:
07 Jun 2021, 10:08
I will try this. My GPU (RTX 3060) is on the way from Japan. :) You say that I will not have any blur if I do correct settings, right? Maybe won't be as good as like true 1080p monitor but it will be good, that's what I understand.
Yeah, it's quite good. RTX cards have better GPU scaling so you'll probably need less sharpening.
Then another question; If I set my resolution as 1080p on 1440p monitor, will be any disadvantages? Maybe more input lag or less HZ or more response time? Any idea about that? Thanks again.
With GPU scaling there should be no lag. With display scaling, it depends on the monitor. Some monitors have lag when scaling, some don't. There is no way to tell. Monitor reviewers don't test this.

There is no difference in Hz. With GPU scaling the monitor will still receive a 1440p image from the GPU. The GPU takes the 1080p image from the game, scales it to 1440p and sends that to the monitor. So there is no difference. The monitor is still running at 1440p.
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