Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by masterblaster » 25 Nov 2021, 10:40

woland wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 22:36
masterblaster wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 21:57
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 19:44


What monitor did you go to?
Not to give a complicated answer, but I am in process. I waited for viewsonic xg2431 to become available for about 6 months or so? So I bought that recently. I then purchased a dell 27" 1440p 165hz monitor to try because I have seen many say they like it due to higher clarity and I found myself kind of liking it. I have a small problem though because I normally play at 1080p or lower resolutions, and I only have a RTX 3070(which is plenty fast for 1080p or lower), but my aim and sensitivity and everything is all off with the 27" 1440p(I still kind of liked it though). But I am having to decide if I rather have a 24" 1080p monitor which might be better for fps gaming on or if I want to go 27" 1440p for bigger desktop space and basically can still game at lower resolutions if I use aspect ratio scaling.

I kind of want to try a 390hz monitor just so I can try it. So I may end up buying one to try out as well. So still deciding is the answer. :)
I think I will order a 390hz monitor and try that for a week or two and maybe try the 27" for a few weeks and see whats what.

The choice will either be the viewsonic xg2431, dell S2721DGF(which is a great 1440p gaming monitor with low input lag and still 165hz) and acer 390hz monitor?
I have the 390hz and an xg2431 on the way so I'll be able to comment on that.
Oh sick. If you can message me or give some feedback on that, that would be great. Ive been playing with my xg2431 for about a week now so... I am fairly used to it. As soon as I get time I might get the 390hz and I need to game on the 27" S2721DGF for a week or two and then ill know.

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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by lizardpeter » 25 Nov 2021, 14:14

masterblaster wrote:
25 Nov 2021, 10:40
woland wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 22:36
masterblaster wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 21:57
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 19:44


What monitor did you go to?
Not to give a complicated answer, but I am in process. I waited for viewsonic xg2431 to become available for about 6 months or so? So I bought that recently. I then purchased a dell 27" 1440p 165hz monitor to try because I have seen many say they like it due to higher clarity and I found myself kind of liking it. I have a small problem though because I normally play at 1080p or lower resolutions, and I only have a RTX 3070(which is plenty fast for 1080p or lower), but my aim and sensitivity and everything is all off with the 27" 1440p(I still kind of liked it though). But I am having to decide if I rather have a 24" 1080p monitor which might be better for fps gaming on or if I want to go 27" 1440p for bigger desktop space and basically can still game at lower resolutions if I use aspect ratio scaling.

I kind of want to try a 390hz monitor just so I can try it. So I may end up buying one to try out as well. So still deciding is the answer. :)
I think I will order a 390hz monitor and try that for a week or two and maybe try the 27" for a few weeks and see whats what.

The choice will either be the viewsonic xg2431, dell S2721DGF(which is a great 1440p gaming monitor with low input lag and still 165hz) and acer 390hz monitor?
I have the 390hz and an xg2431 on the way so I'll be able to comment on that.
Oh sick. If you can message me or give some feedback on that, that would be great. Ive been playing with my xg2431 for about a week now so... I am fairly used to it. As soon as I get time I might get the 390hz and I need to game on the 27" S2721DGF for a week or two and then ill know.
If you try the 390 Hz, make sure you actually play some games to test with that reach 400 FPS. I can tell you some settings I prefer on mine later. I think I’m using backlight strobing off, overdrive on extreme, max brightness off, brightness around 70, contrast around 20, and black equalizer or whatever it’s called at around 10. I have to check to make sure those are exactly what I use and also what my gamma is on. I only care about competitive gaming, so those settings probably suck for anyone that cares about other things.

I see a lot of people obsessed with color accuracy and picture quality. It’s a 1080p monitor. You’re not getting anything that looks insane out of it. I also need things to be brighter in darker areas than they should be to see enemies easier. If I want a monitor for video editing, media consumption, etc. I’ll use my 1440p one or buy an LG C1.
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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by IIISLIDEIII » 29 Nov 2021, 11:52

lizardpeter wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 20:18
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 17:50
Those who are playing a "new" game today are the high refresh ips, in particular this acer 390hz, difficult to explain but when you try the 390hz you get an image that goes smooth as oil and greater reactivity (this even if not 390fps is reached).
Doing 240 fps on a 240hz does not give the same fluidity and the same reactivity that you have in doing 240 fps on a 390hz.
Totally agree. This is exactly my experience at 390 Hz too. It kind of feels surreal when you're getting 400 FPS or more and using the monitor. With an insanely fast mouse like the Viper 8K Hz with the fastest click and sensor delay, the combination of the monitor with the fastest latency on the market, the fastest mouse on the market, a good PC, a well-optimized Windows install, and all low settings in games is awesome. I imagine the experience of 390 Hz or 480 Hz on something like an OLED that also has insane pixel response times would be mind blowing.
I would be curious to try viper 8k but from the size maybe it is not suitable for me, I have a medium-small hand, currently I use viper mini

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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by IIISLIDEIII » 29 Nov 2021, 12:10

IIISLIDEIII wrote:
17 Nov 2021, 07:24
Inco^ wrote:
17 Nov 2021, 06:58
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
16 Nov 2021, 15:02
acer with the strobe is difficult to comment because I find it unusable, if you put a strobe that works at 230 nits it is useless to me because to kill the enemies I have to see them and with 230 nits I do not see well, I have to strain the view as a 90 year old myopic while I'm playing, it doesn't make any sense.
Could you please switch MBR to Normal and come back and comment on the Acer's performance? I know you have done it, but it seems you keep coming back to testing MBR to Extreme.
tried several times also on normal but I really struggle to see any difference, the only useful mode is extreme but it becomes useless due to the low brightness.
However, it is a very good monitor in terms of responsiveness, input lag and fluidity (even without gsync the image is very smooth and almost totally free of tearing), the only aspect where it loses compared to benq and Omen x25 is the blur, the difference it's a lot.

You have to evaluate your needs and the type of games you use and decide whether to prefer 390hz with blur or 240hz with clarity, I haven't chosen yet.
lizardpeter wrote:
17 Nov 2021, 00:29
SUOrange55 wrote:
16 Nov 2021, 20:06
So what's the best option right now for competitive BR games where you're usually hitting about 200fps with a mid-to-high-end rig (Warzone, Apex, etc.) but often have dips into the mid-100s?

For example, tracking aggressive movement up close in Warzone?
As I’ve said, COD is my main game. I would recommend the Acer XV252QF. Other people would recommend the HP X25. If you love Dyac, people would recommend the XL2546K. I have also seen a lot of good things about the HP X27 if you like 1440p. That thing has a very fast TN panel and is usually close to a chart topper for both input lag and response time. I’m surprised I don’t hear more people here talking about it. I guess a lot of us competitive players like 1080p 24” to 25”. The HP X27 is 1440p 27”.

Basically, this is what I would say.

Lowest input lag and highest refresh rate: Acer XV252QF

Best pixel response time while still having a relatively high refresh rate: HP X25

Best backlight strobing: Zowie XL2546K

Best response time and 4K: LG C1

1440p 27” option: HP X27
I don't know if I received a lucky xl2546 model but I can guarantee you that even without dyac it is very clear, much clearer than acer.
In the ufo test the blur is very little, similar to Omen x25, it has only a slight overshot that in game is almost impossible to notice.
Acer does not have overshot, in this aspect the ufo test is cleaner than the benq, but it has a lot of blur in the ufo test that benq does not have, when you leave the ufo test and go to the game it is much easier to perceive the blur of acer than the overshot of benq.


x27 1440p looks like a great panel, I guess it is the 2k with less blur on the market, I was curious to try that too but the size is a big problem, if you get used to the reaction you have on a 24.5 it becomes hard to go on a 27, I think it is impossible to have the same reaction speed, you have to move the screen really far away and you lose focus, you also have a higher resolution to move, so lower framerate in game and more pixels to manage, so more input lag and higher response times than the little brother x25
I think x27 is the right choice for someone who wants to have only one monitor and play a little bit of everything without wanting to be too competitive.

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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by lizardpeter » 29 Nov 2021, 13:56

IIISLIDEIII wrote:
29 Nov 2021, 11:52
I would be curious to try viper 8k but from the size maybe it is not suitable for me, I have a medium-small hand, currently I use viper mini
I have the Viper Mini too. It’s a great mouse. I might switch back to a Mini if they come out with a Viper Mini 8K.
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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by IIISLIDEIII » 29 Nov 2021, 14:16

lizardpeter wrote:
29 Nov 2021, 13:56
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
29 Nov 2021, 11:52
I would be curious to try viper 8k but from the size maybe it is not suitable for me, I have a medium-small hand, currently I use viper mini
I have the Viper Mini too. It’s a great mouse. I might switch back to a Mini if they come out with a Viper Mini 8K.
if they do viper mini 8k I'll take it right away.
What differences do you feel in game between 1k and 8k?

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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by lizardpeter » 29 Nov 2021, 22:19

IIISLIDEIII wrote:
29 Nov 2021, 14:16
lizardpeter wrote:
29 Nov 2021, 13:56
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
29 Nov 2021, 11:52
I would be curious to try viper 8k but from the size maybe it is not suitable for me, I have a medium-small hand, currently I use viper mini
I have the Viper Mini too. It’s a great mouse. I might switch back to a Mini if they come out with a Viper Mini 8K.
if they do viper mini 8k I'll take it right away.
What differences do you feel in game between 1k and 8k?
It just feels a bit smoother and more responsive. It’s not a massive difference, but it’s noticeable enough to me that when it switched back to 1000 Hz from a bug I noticed it and changed it back to 8000 Hz. And that was back on my 240 Hz monitor. I’ve only ran it at 8000 Hz on my 390 Hz monitor. Maybe I’ll mess around with it at 1K vs 8K Hz and get back to you.
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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by IIISLIDEIII » 30 Nov 2021, 04:17

lizardpeter wrote:
29 Nov 2021, 22:19
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
29 Nov 2021, 14:16
lizardpeter wrote:
29 Nov 2021, 13:56
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
29 Nov 2021, 11:52
I would be curious to try viper 8k but from the size maybe it is not suitable for me, I have a medium-small hand, currently I use viper mini
I have the Viper Mini too. It’s a great mouse. I might switch back to a Mini if they come out with a Viper Mini 8K.
if they do viper mini 8k I'll take it right away.
What differences do you feel in game between 1k and 8k?
It just feels a bit smoother and more responsive. It’s not a massive difference, but it’s noticeable enough to me that when it switched back to 1000 Hz from a bug I noticed it and changed it back to 8000 Hz. And that was back on my 240 Hz monitor. I’ve only ran it at 8000 Hz on my 390 Hz monitor. Maybe I’ll mess around with it at 1K vs 8K Hz and get back to you.
thanks, let me know if you do

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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 30 Nov 2021, 10:25

For gaming mice…

Use 2000Hz or 4000Hz as a sweet spot. Balance between game compatibility and smoothness.

Also try high DPI (3200) and low sensitivity when it comes to new sensors like the 3389 and 3399 in the Razer Viper 8KHz. Old games like CS:GO may go wonky (outdated imprecise mouse mathematics that only work good at 400dpi and 800dpi) but newer games like Valorant and Overwatch is super happy at 3200dpi + low sensitivity. Makes slowturns and slowaim (sniper camping, tracking aims at distant moving vehicles, etc) amazing, without sacrificing fast/flick turns. High DPI + low sensitivity is like giving your mouse some powerups and additional capabilities you didn’t know it had.

On some systems and some games, 8000Hz hogs a bit of CPU and lowers framerate a bit, so try 2000Hz or 4000Hz as a compromise. At 2000Hz you get literally 90% of the benefits of 8000Hz.
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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by planart » 30 Nov 2021, 12:08

I'ma loan your thread a bit. I too have had MAG251RX, Acer XV252QF and now I've bought XL2456K from Amazon deals. (330€ shipped)

Was initially kind of underwhelmed by the monitor. That TN panel first impression is rough. Was about to return it even. Then I actually got the chance to play some more serious competitive matches with it finally today. Played the best I think I've ever played. Have to say - this monitor is still praised for a good reason. The custom display profile for CS:GO is actually very nice straight out of the box, no need to tinker with any third party stuff. High brightness + strobing really can make you subconsiously hit those crazy flicks with higher success rate. Every moving object just somehow is more well defined on this TN than with Acer 390Hz (VRB on). Acer has slight upper hand on input lag and smoothness. But I still pure motion resolution is king here. Maybe... Or then I just had a good day.

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