Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

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IIISLIDEIII
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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by IIISLIDEIII » 24 Nov 2021, 12:11

Merk91 wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 10:53
So, i play most cod multiplayer and sometimes warzone, i Think that for clarity and smoothest image (for frenetic action in multiplayer) it coild be better the acer, isnt it?
I'm just playing at that too but I don't really know what to advise you, I don't know how sensitive you are to blur, it's very subjective.
Cod is an average game, not very hectic and you don't put the monitor under stress like on fortnite or other but the blur, if any, you can also perceive it on cod, especially in multiplayer where the gameplay is more frenetic than in warzone.

I believe that the monitors in question are all of a high standard and I doubt that switching from one to the other your performances can change drastically, I have them here and I am still trying them, if there really was "one best of all" I would have already chosen but is not so.

Keep the benq a little longer and also take acer from amazon, make a direct comparison between the two with your eyes and make the return of what you are least satisfied with, as I said, on benq you will have less blur but a little less reactivity (know that benq raises the input lag only if dyac is active, with dyac off the input lag is very low), with acer you will have the best reactivity but also more blur.
Unfortunately, no one wins over everything.

antiblur
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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by antiblur » 24 Nov 2021, 12:27

IIISLIDEIII wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 07:22
f you want the greatest possible clarity, to date, in 2021, you still have to go to a TN (possibly with the latest generation panel such as Omen), no ips monitor will give you the same clarity, regardless of the refresh rate.

Omen has a panel of 2018-2019, benq has a newer panel. It seems that in the version "f" the "omen" has the same panel as the benq, only revisions 1.2, in the benq xl2546k 1.8. Benq has a newer panel. Benq and Omen are configured and implemented in different ways, so it is possible that Omen will be better in some scenarios, but even from your photos I see more clarity in Benq, without strobing. Also, in theory, the benk should have a lower input lag. And as I understand the g-sync increases the input lag. From here, I do not yet understand how people praise the omen in comparison with 2546k. Of course, in practice, everything may be different than in theory, but even the screenshots so far speak in favor of the benq.
monitors: TN ACER 1916 (75Hz)>TN ACER 1917 (75Hz)>XL2540K (240Hz)>IIYAMA MASTER VISION PRO 451 (CRT 160 Hz)>xl2546k>omen x 25>24g2zu>xv252qf

IIISLIDEIII
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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by IIISLIDEIII » 24 Nov 2021, 14:27

antiblur wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 12:27
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 07:22
f you want the greatest possible clarity, to date, in 2021, you still have to go to a TN (possibly with the latest generation panel such as Omen), no ips monitor will give you the same clarity, regardless of the refresh rate.

Omen has a panel of 2018-2019, benq has a newer panel. It seems that in the version "f" the "omen" has the same panel as the benq, only revisions 1.2, in the benq xl2546k 1.8. Benq has a newer panel. Benq and Omen are configured and implemented in different ways, so it is possible that Omen will be better in some scenarios, but even from your photos I see more clarity in Benq, without strobing. Also, in theory, the benk should have a lower input lag. And as I understand the g-sync increases the input lag. From here, I do not yet understand how people praise the omen in comparison with 2546k. Of course, in practice, everything may be different than in theory, but even the screenshots so far speak in favor of the benq.
on the omen, as on the benq, you don't have to use gsync so I wouldn't worry about the input lag it adds.

Omen and benq (without strobing and gsync) have the same input lag according to rtings tests and in fact using them I don't notice perceptible differences going from one to the other, where did you read that omen has a higher input lag?

The reason why "the rumors" say omen is better is because it is actually better, it has perfect clarity on the ufo test, unlike the benq which has a slight overshoot (as you can see from the photos).

Do not take the photos I posted too seriously, I took them on the fly and they do not faithfully show what I see on the screen, on the benq there is it's a slight overshoot on the left side of the alien that Omen doesn't have.

But I think the choice of who is the best should not be made between omen and benq, but between omen / benq vs acer.
The acer shuffles the cards a bit because it wins practically on all parameters compared to Omen and benq:
colors, input lag, responsiveness, fluidity.
The only point where it loses is the response time, the difference isn't terrible ..... but it's pretty consistent, if acer had the response time of 2 tn there would be no discussion, he would have won easy.
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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by ms.potatoe » 24 Nov 2021, 15:29

Excuse me because you are not talking about this monitor. But if you want to add one to the comparison.

I have uploaded a VG258QM ufo. Settings adaptativesync on, OD 3, 280Hz, 960pps.

https://youtu.be/4PlAUgBQcDw

IMO more clearer than XL2546K without Dyac.

IIISLIDEIII
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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by IIISLIDEIII » 24 Nov 2021, 17:50

ms.potatoe wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 15:29
Excuse me because you are not talking about this monitor. But if you want to add one to the comparison.

I have uploaded a VG258QM ufo. Settings adaptativesync on, OD 3, 280Hz, 960pps.

https://youtu.be/4PlAUgBQcDw

IMO more clearer than XL2546K without Dyac.
even benq at that ppi has such a sharp ufo, i prefer to do 1200 or 1440 ppi to simulate moving faster.
But I believe that most of the "good level" tn panels look alike, for better or worse they all have a high level clarity, the choice at that point can go to one or the other model for preference on the brand or for some adjustment accessory.

Those who are playing a "new" game today are the high refresh ips, in particular this acer 390hz, difficult to explain but when you try the 390hz you get an image that goes smooth as oil and greater reactivity (this even if not 390fps is reached).
Doing 240 fps on a 240hz does not give the same fluidity and the same reactivity that you have in doing 240 fps on a 390hz.

If you only look at the response times, any latest generation tn will be excellent.

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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by masterblaster » 24 Nov 2021, 19:28

Me personally, I played with the XL2546K for about 2 weeks or so and while I did love dyac+, I ultimately came to the decision to return it because theres no way its worth $500 before tax without dyac+. $550 after tax for a TN panel just for that single feature in 2021 doesnt really make sense. I didnt experience it myself because I play at lower resolutions anyways, but some people say it has high input lag as well so theres that too. Youre literally paying $200 for the single dyac+ feature. Not worth it if you ask me. Its a subjective thing though. Glad I waited and went with a different one.

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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by IIISLIDEIII » 24 Nov 2021, 19:44

masterblaster wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 19:28
Me personally, I played with the XL2546K for about 2 weeks or so and while I did love dyac+, I ultimately came to the decision to return it because theres no way its worth $500 before tax without dyac+. $550 after tax for a TN panel just for that single feature in 2021 doesnt really make sense. I didnt experience it myself because I play at lower resolutions anyways, but some people say it has high input lag as well so theres that too. Youre literally paying $200 for the single dyac+ feature. Not worth it if you ask me. Its a subjective thing though. Glad I waited and went with a different one.
I paid 499 including taxes but i agree with you, the price is high for a tn panel in 2021 especially considering that not everyone can do strobing as it adds vertical micro tears in fast flicks and for $ 300 you get no strobed tn panels that perform similarly or slightly better, see Hp omen.

For accuracy, input lag goes up if you use dyac, if you don't use strobing the input lag is excellent.

What monitor did you go to?

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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by lizardpeter » 24 Nov 2021, 20:18

IIISLIDEIII wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 17:50
Those who are playing a "new" game today are the high refresh ips, in particular this acer 390hz, difficult to explain but when you try the 390hz you get an image that goes smooth as oil and greater reactivity (this even if not 390fps is reached).
Doing 240 fps on a 240hz does not give the same fluidity and the same reactivity that you have in doing 240 fps on a 390hz.
Totally agree. This is exactly my experience at 390 Hz too. It kind of feels surreal when you're getting 400 FPS or more and using the monitor. With an insanely fast mouse like the Viper 8K Hz with the fastest click and sensor delay, the combination of the monitor with the fastest latency on the market, the fastest mouse on the market, a good PC, a well-optimized Windows install, and all low settings in games is awesome. I imagine the experience of 390 Hz or 480 Hz on something like an OLED that also has insane pixel response times would be mind blowing.
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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by masterblaster » 24 Nov 2021, 21:57

IIISLIDEIII wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 19:44


What monitor did you go to?
Not to give a complicated answer, but I am in process. I waited for viewsonic xg2431 to become available for about 6 months or so? So I bought that recently. I then purchased a dell 27" 1440p 165hz monitor to try because I have seen many say they like it due to higher clarity and I found myself kind of liking it. I have a small problem though because I normally play at 1080p or lower resolutions, and I only have a RTX 3070(which is plenty fast for 1080p or lower), but my aim and sensitivity and everything is all off with the 27" 1440p(I still kind of liked it though). But I am having to decide if I rather have a 24" 1080p monitor which might be better for fps gaming on or if I want to go 27" 1440p for bigger desktop space and basically can still game at lower resolutions if I use aspect ratio scaling.

I kind of want to try a 390hz monitor just so I can try it. So I may end up buying one to try out as well. So still deciding is the answer. :)
I think I will order a 390hz monitor and try that for a week or two and maybe try the 27" for a few weeks and see whats what.

The choice will either be the viewsonic xg2431, dell S2721DGF(which is a great 1440p gaming monitor with low input lag and still 165hz) and acer 390hz monitor?

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Re: Comparison benq xl2546k, hp omen x25, acer nitro xv252qf,msi mag251rx

Post by woland » 24 Nov 2021, 22:36

masterblaster wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 21:57
IIISLIDEIII wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 19:44


What monitor did you go to?
Not to give a complicated answer, but I am in process. I waited for viewsonic xg2431 to become available for about 6 months or so? So I bought that recently. I then purchased a dell 27" 1440p 165hz monitor to try because I have seen many say they like it due to higher clarity and I found myself kind of liking it. I have a small problem though because I normally play at 1080p or lower resolutions, and I only have a RTX 3070(which is plenty fast for 1080p or lower), but my aim and sensitivity and everything is all off with the 27" 1440p(I still kind of liked it though). But I am having to decide if I rather have a 24" 1080p monitor which might be better for fps gaming on or if I want to go 27" 1440p for bigger desktop space and basically can still game at lower resolutions if I use aspect ratio scaling.

I kind of want to try a 390hz monitor just so I can try it. So I may end up buying one to try out as well. So still deciding is the answer. :)
I think I will order a 390hz monitor and try that for a week or two and maybe try the 27" for a few weeks and see whats what.

The choice will either be the viewsonic xg2431, dell S2721DGF(which is a great 1440p gaming monitor with low input lag and still 165hz) and acer 390hz monitor?
I have the 390hz and an xg2431 on the way so I'll be able to comment on that.

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