Fastest 240hz tn panel

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ms.potatoe
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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by ms.potatoe » 06 Feb 2022, 15:12

I never tested X25 but imo X25f ( don't know how much difference there between f and no f ) is less clear than VG258QM

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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by kenamo » 07 Feb 2022, 07:33

antiblur wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 11:41
Nm_kng wrote:
09 Jan 2022, 13:38


KD25F, XF252Q and the Omen X25 (non F)
I got my omen x 25.
Hey, quick question. Do you have the x 25 with the more adjustable stand that has a vesa mount option and costs like 100$ more, or do you have the regular x 25 with the limited stand that only allows back and forward tilt/height adjustment and has no vesa compatibility?

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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by axaro1 » 07 Feb 2022, 07:35

prod1G wrote:
23 Jan 2022, 21:10
i have to come back to you and correct me..
after getting out the xg249cm again and taking pursuit shots it becomes apparent that these new ips really are faster than the older generation.
what deceived me was its 270hz, wich didn't perform that well imo.
lowering to 240hz shows a better result:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVXMlObz2kM
here is the vg259qm on 280hz (no video of 240hz because it didn't really help reduce ghosting):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8m0r3xWyaE

but the xg249qm performing better at 240hz does not justify its 400€ pricetag. also it only comes with a hdmi cable, wich is a complete joke :D they advertise 270hz but out of the box its not even achievable. i guess 24g2zu at 250€ is a better option (xg2431 for americans).

to wrap things up:

IPS
vg259qm > xv252qz
OD120 looks better than OD normal (they still show the most ghosting, so go for the new 23,8" IPS).

24g2zu(xg2431) > xg249cm
if 240hz performance is the same, xg249cm is too expensive and even lacks the cable for 270hz.

TN
itek 288 > vg258qm
itek seems faster and wins despite bad QC, noname brand, jank OSD and junk stand.
but these old panels both seem to slow for 280(288)hz so the omen still feels better overall.

omen x25 > xl2540k
to come back to this threads question, imo the omen really is the best 240hz TN.
it looks very good on OD2 and OD3, wich i actually like more, because it has only very slight overshoot while feeling
faster inputlag-wise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWyje43n5yA
the only better thing about xl2540k is that you can strobe and save 200€ :)

so, wich one will i keep? either the omen or a 24g2zu, wich i just ordered xD
i actually just want to get over with this odyssey, but my perfectionism is no good..
i used my vg248qe for 5 years and when switching to 240hz i knew i would fall into the rabbithole.
but this forum provided good input and technical knowledge so i wanted to give some information back, so maybe others don't have to go through all this.

PS: here are some extra screengrabs: https://imgur.com/a/9PEnc0R
Do you value strobing? If yes which monitor did perform better in this aspect?
XL2566K* | XV252QF* | LG C1* | HP OMEN X 25 | XL2546K | VG259QM | XG2402 | LS24F350[RIP]
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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by NicolasLV » 08 Aug 2022, 16:38

yehaw wrote:
14 Jan 2022, 23:58
Axaion wrote:
13 Jan 2022, 17:31
antiblur wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 11:41
Nm_kng wrote:
09 Jan 2022, 13:38


KD25F, XF252Q and the Omen X25 (non F)
I got my omen x 25. And in my opinion it is slower than the 2540k or 2546k panel (same). Sometimes it seems to me that I can see blur on the omen, with overdrive 3 (while the artifacts of the corona are noticeable), although it may be due to the terrible pixel inversion that my copy suffers from (the worst pixel inversion that I have seen), the picture loses clarity at such moments due to pixel shift. I could be wrong, and there may be blur too. On a premium ama, I almost did not see artifacts corona, on omen overdrive 3 ghosting is much more noticeable, with overdrive level 4 it is unrealistic to play, they are not only at level 2, but there the picture seems more often blurry. I saw no benefit in g-sync and I think that perhaps the "f" version is no worse, since rings tested it. Having tried Omen and 2540k-2546k I recommend exclusively the Benq. The panel is faster and the monitor is objectively better in most aspects. The Omen liked the viewing angles and the relatively good initial color setting, but the Benq easily adjusts better. Also, my copy of Omena has 2 broken pixels (one consists of dark subpixels, the other is frozen red) and maybe I had no luck with the panel. However, in tests ufo and in games, I find an advantage benq. This is the most versatile monitor for all shooters, I think that the hype bank is justified in this case.
Any of the 240hz GSYNC MODULE TN monitors with the same panel as the hp x25 omen performs the sameish it seems, please provide proof that yours was that bad, because ive yet to see any of them have overshoot unless you use the wrong overdrive
references; techless testufo shots for example, someone in here has an acer version with clean shots too, i believe they were posted in my 24g2zu thread?
I have the panel and it does have overshoot artifacts on 3/4. It's hard to see on 3, but 4 there is no hiding it. It's perfectly fine on 2 if overshoot bothers you and has 0 overshoot there. 4 also seems to have less smeary looking motion blur on fast swipes in my experience. Personally, I like 4 best because of the large bump in responsive feeling and less smeary picture of fast swipes. I play all comp games on the apparently unplayable 4, and casual/single player/desktop on 2. And I've gotten to very high ranks in a few titles using these settings.

I've had about 5 different 240hz panels so far and this OMEN is the best I've owned out of all of them in regards to BLB, uniformity, overdrive, clarity of motion, eye strain, and responsive feel. I completely gave up looking for a new monitor, until I saw the recent review of the XG2431

Omen 25X
Viewsonic XG2431 - good, but I expected a bit more from the colors on the IPS front, ips glow also ruins a lot of dark content, also heavy eye strain
Alienware AW2518h - horrible eye strain made my eyes water, very blurry motion at lower fps
Asus XG248Q - awful uniformity/blb, some of the worst I've seen
Some 27" LG TN 240hz, forget the model - Was pretty good, but 27" is not a good experience for competitive gaming imo,
Hey I have got the XG248Q and it is not the best icl. But as you have used it I would like to know what settings you used or just if you could help me tune it to get optimal settings I am not really sure what to use and there are no reviews on it or anything.

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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by Anonymous316387 » 11 Aug 2022, 15:14

antiblur wrote:
14 Jan 2022, 07:46
Axaion wrote:
13 Jan 2022, 17:31
please provide proof that yours was that bad, because ive yet to see any of them have overshoot unless you use the wrong overdrive
references;
Man, this has overshoot on overdrive 3 and 4 - any omen owner can tell you that. That's why slide and techless used omen on overdrive 2. In the UFO test, it looks sharp on overdrive 2 and has no overshoot. However, in games I noticed blurring, and in kovak too, so I set overdrive 3. With it, blue-white halos were very noticeable both in the UFO test and in games. Overdrive 4 is unplayable. In principle, you can play on overdrive 3, but it looks terrible compared to ama premium, so the best recommendation is overdrive 2. But let me remind you that 1ms of response is only achieved with overdrive 3. And I sometimes notice blurring on overdrive 2 in games, sometimes on 3, but on 2 it's more comfortable to play, you get used to it and if you don't peer into the pixels, it seems that the picture is not blurred. In a meticulous comparison, my 2540k and 2546k specimens had less blur in games on ama premium, I saw halos only in the UFO test, they could be seen in games, but I had to try very, very hard, with 3 omen overdrive I see them easily. You're asking for proof, but that requires special equipment that I don't have. If I shoot a UFO test for you on my phone, it will look sharp, but in reality it looks worse, and the UFO test does not convey the blurring that I sometimes notice in games. The UFO test is not informative in this case, because it is extremely difficult to see the difference between 2540k, 2546k and Omen in terms of blurring, but in games it was more felt.
i'm agree, i've had all monitor that you mentionned here ( Omen / BenQ / Asus etc )

and the Omen X 25 even with the OD on maximum are bad, you can still see the motion blur and in fact it's even worse than other because there is no sharpness parameters so the screen is completely blurry.

BenQ XL2540K for me is better, like mister "AntiBlur" have said.

The worst monitor that i've had it's the Asus VG259QM, garb*ge colors for an IPS and high reverse ghosting on high OD settings with so many ghosting on lower OD.

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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by Zinzin » 30 Aug 2022, 06:31

I'm torn between omen x 25, benq xl2546k and more recent options, considering the xg2431 is not available in europe?

Also which one behaves the best in 60fps locked games?

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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by alvez » 07 Apr 2023, 10:12

Notty_PT wrote:
12 Jan 2022, 13:16
I have no idea really, sorry. I know Itek is Italian and Ozone I think it´s spanish (?)

They are the same panel/model, even same stand and design. Just the Itek version is overclocked to 288hz. These monitors must be produced by other brands for sure. Try to look on amazon US for 288hz TN monitors or 240hz Tn monitors. When you see an unknown brand, that must be it

Still recommended ? :D PT HERE

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