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prod1G
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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by prod1G » 20 Jan 2022, 18:16

Refull wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 12:50
But between the qz and the new 23,8 Asus , what is the best? Mostly for csgo
none of those, i'd pick vg259qm
VG259QM the GOAT

isaac
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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by isaac » 20 Jan 2022, 18:43

prod1G wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 12:12
Zace wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 10:47
If you want smoothness xv252qf, clarity xg2431.
i don't think it's that easy..
Refull wrote:
19 Jan 2022, 22:45
can you give us a update on the xv252qz?
i play quake games mainly, so stuff moves fast, aka moving >600 ups, flicking rail or tracking lg on rocket jumping opponent.
that's why i dont use strobing, it does not really help me in these situations.
what i need is a ghosting and (excessive)overshoot free picture.
i'd rather go for an OD that has a bit of overshoot, than one with ghosting.
that's why i didn't like the 390hz acer. yes, everything was butter, input lag felt instant, there was only little motion blur, not needing strobing due to high refresh, but the ghosting caused by the slow ips response time was too much.
its a weird sensation, seeing details on the enemy clear, but having to deal with a long smeary trail at the silhouettes edge.

regarding XV252QZ and VG259QM (i look at 1440,1920,2400pps ufo speeds):
asus beats the acer, because it has more OD granularity.
i like OD120 and OD80, because the overshoot is white and not some inverted blue color, masking the ghosting somewhat.
at 2400pps, what translates to fast swipes or flicks ingame, it still has a noticable trail, tho.
the acer on the other hand only has normal and extreme OD.
normal beeing too slow, showing ghosting even at 960pps. extreme is too fast, overshooting noticably.

i had the same problem on the new 23,8 panel of the xg249cm. the fastest non overshooting OD was too slow, the next fastest too fast. i was hoping it had a service menu hack like the vg259qm, but it sadly didnt.

sorry for not providing ufo vids, ips tend to not look true to reality on my phone somehow.


in my case, i still have to give ips a pass.
vg259qm got really close though, but it still feels to slow for me.
as of right now the omen really is the best.
i got the itek ggf 288hz and another vg258qm coming tomorrow, i'll report on them later.
how about xg2431 ? it has 100 step od control so you can find best spot between ghosting and overshot

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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by Refull » 20 Jan 2022, 18:54

prod1G wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 18:16
Refull wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 12:50
But between the qz and the new 23,8 Asus , what is the best? Mostly for csgo
none of those, i'd pick vg259qm
so strange that a old panel like the asus are better than those 2 `new` monitors , one using the same panel than the viewsonic , thinking on the 240hz ZU from aoc them..

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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by prod1G » 20 Jan 2022, 19:42

isaac wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 18:43
how about xg2431 ? it has 100 step od control so you can find best spot between ghosting and overshot
really? thats awesome! bummer, i live in EU.
VG259QM the GOAT

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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by Zace » 20 Jan 2022, 23:28

pinginu wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 12:39
prod1G wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 12:12
Zace wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 10:47
If you want smoothness xv252qf, clarity xg2431.
i don't think it's that easy..
Refull wrote:
19 Jan 2022, 22:45
can you give us a update on the xv252qz?
i play quake games mainly, so stuff moves fast, aka moving >600 ups, flicking rail or tracking lg on rocket jumping opponent.
that's why i dont use strobing, it does not really help me in these situations.
what i need is a ghosting and (excessive)overshoot free picture.
i'd rather go for an OD that has a bit of overshoot, than one with ghosting.
that's why i didn't like the 390hz acer. yes, everything was butter, input lag felt instant, there was only little motion blur, not needing strobing due to high refresh, but the ghosting caused by the slow ips response time was too much.
its a weird sensation, seeing details on the enemy clear, but having to deal with a long smeary trail at the silhouettes edge.

regarding XV252QZ and VG259QM (i look at 1440,1920,2400pps ufo speeds):
asus beats the acer, because it has more OD granularity.
i like OD120 and OD80, because the overshoot is white and not some inverted blue color, masking the ghosting somewhat.
at 2400pps, what translates to fast swipes or flicks ingame, it still has a noticable trail, tho.
the acer on the other hand only has normal and extreme OD.
normal beeing too slow, showing ghosting even at 960pps. extreme is too fast, overshooting noticably.

i had the same problem on the new 23,8 panel of the xg249cm. the fastest non overshooting OD was too slow, the next fastest too fast. i was hoping it had a service menu hack like the vg259qm, but it sadly didnt.

sorry for not providing ufo vids, ips tend to not look true to reality on my phone somehow.


in my case, i still have to give ips a pass.
vg259qm got really close though, but it still feels to slow for me.
as of right now the omen really is the best.
i got the itek ggf 288hz and another vg258qm coming tomorrow, i'll report on them later.
there is a review of the VG258QM at rtings if you are interested in reading it. Itek GGF 288hz TN could have the panel from VG258QM.
Where did you get the xg249cm? Since it has same panel as xg2431 - It is the fastest IPs panel right now. I guess that vs the GGF will be the main toss up.

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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by IIISLIDEIII » 21 Jan 2022, 08:39

right now, if you want to go to an ips panel at all costs there is not much to discuss, acer xv252qf is the best ips on the market but like all ips panels it will not have optimal response times, so it is useless to stay to discuss between one model and another because, I repeat, there is no ips with fabulous response times.

If low blur is top priority you have to go to a tn and if you have an x25 it makes no sense to go looking for something else (unless the specimen is broken).

the only thing that makes sense is to hold your x25 and wait for tn panels to come out at 480hz

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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by Zace » 22 Jan 2022, 14:43

prod1G wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 12:12
Zace wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 10:47
If you want smoothness xv252qf, clarity xg2431.
i don't think it's that easy..
Refull wrote:
19 Jan 2022, 22:45
can you give us a update on the xv252qz?
i play quake games mainly, so stuff moves fast, aka moving >600 ups, flicking rail or tracking lg on rocket jumping opponent.
that's why i dont use strobing, it does not really help me in these situations.
what i need is a ghosting and (excessive)overshoot free picture.
i'd rather go for an OD that has a bit of overshoot, than one with ghosting.
that's why i didn't like the 390hz acer. yes, everything was butter, input lag felt instant, there was only little motion blur, not needing strobing due to high refresh, but the ghosting caused by the slow ips response time was too much.
its a weird sensation, seeing details on the enemy clear, but having to deal with a long smeary trail at the silhouettes edge.

regarding XV252QZ and VG259QM (i look at 1440,1920,2400pps ufo speeds):
asus beats the acer, because it has more OD granularity.
i like OD120 and OD80, because the overshoot is white and not some inverted blue color, masking the ghosting somewhat.
at 2400pps, what translates to fast swipes or flicks ingame, it still has a noticable trail, tho.
the acer on the other hand only has normal and extreme OD.
normal beeing too slow, showing ghosting even at 960pps. extreme is too fast, overshooting noticably.

i had the same problem on the new 23,8 panel of the xg249cm. the fastest non overshooting OD was too slow, the next fastest too fast. i was hoping it had a service menu hack like the vg259qm, but it sadly didnt.

sorry for not providing ufo vids, ips tend to not look true to reality on my phone somehow.


in my case, i still have to give ips a pass.
vg259qm got really close though, but it still feels to slow for me.
as of right now the omen really is the best.
i got the itek ggf 288hz and another vg258qm coming tomorrow, i'll report on them later.
Looks like the Itek ggf 288hz disappointed you. No reports or whatsoever ;)

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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by ms.potatoe » 22 Jan 2022, 17:11

Sry for the quality xd

VG258QM 960pps 0D 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlAUgBQcDw

Itek GGF 288Hz OD Medium 960pps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28HB53-8RVM

Itek GGF 288Hz OD Medium 1080pps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9wrSFNGYMI

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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by axaro1 » 22 Jan 2022, 18:47

ms.potatoe wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 17:11
Can you show us the VG258QM ufotest with ELMB and Adaptive Sync disabled?
XL2566K* | XV252QF* | LG C1* | HP OMEN X 25 | XL2546K | VG259QM | XG2402 | LS24F350[RIP]
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CPU: 5800x3d 102mhz BCLK
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Re: Fastest 240hz tn panel

Post by Zace » 22 Jan 2022, 19:13

ms.potatoe wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 17:11
Sry for the quality xd

VG258QM 960pps 0D 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlAUgBQcDw

Itek GGF 288Hz OD Medium 960pps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28HB53-8RVM

Itek GGF 288Hz OD Medium 1080pps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9wrSFNGYMI
do they both use the same panel?

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