Pc becomes faster/smoother during night time. During day time its slow/sluggish

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Re: Pc becomes faster/smoother during night time. During day time its slow/sluggish

Post by assombrosso » 12 Nov 2022, 21:48

Unreazz wrote:
27 May 2022, 00:43
Headglitch123 wrote:
19 May 2022, 20:22
nyxo100 wrote:
10 Apr 2022, 23:53
Stimpy7314 wrote:
07 Apr 2022, 13:48

i know right... and when its night, holding the mouse becomes more comfortable
same here games feels so smooth only in the night sad as fuck I had to leave competitive games
Dude I've been trying to fix this for a few months now with other people aswell. Combine brains 😝 but bad news.. we tried EVERYTHING, the only temporarily fix is to reinstall windows everytime, reinstalling windows makes games smooth again, same for desktop but for a few hours, but who wants to reinstall windows every 2 hours.. exactly, no one!!!!!
I heared this so many times but generaly it makes no sense to me , why a windows reinstall makes youre games smooth again, only for few hours. The only thing which i can think of, would be "drivers" which gets installed , after you attempt to restart windows to get GPU driver working.

Are you guys sure that you not just ran into a placebo ? Goo reinstall again, disconnect ethernet and before you reboot, goo into windows services and disable windows updates.
I’m a very experienced windows re installer and I noticed odd behaviours. I usually do disable all services, all updates using different ways that ensure that literally nothing is installed. And yet lag comes back within an hour or so. Sometimes longer sometimes shorter but max is 2-3 hours.

Windows reinstalls is behaves differently based on location and whether you use wifi or cable/fiber, I noticed on wifi it lasts longer. And I did over 50 re installs. Saving a windows image and then doing it is much faster but lag comes back quicker than a manual windows reinstall.

But yeah, who actually bothers to do a manual windows reinstall that takes 30 minutes every time to play cs for 1-2 hours ? Which is like a match and half ? Yep no reason to.

Play with the lag or simply try to find a net cafe that has no lag. I think the latter is better

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Re: Pc becomes faster/smoother during night time. During day time its slow/sluggish

Post by F1zus » 15 Nov 2022, 16:32

The problem is not with the computer, but with the electricity.
Specifically, the problem is harmonic distortion (electrical noise)
Possible solutions:
1) electricity regenerator
2) online UPS + toroidal balanced transformer.
3) only balanced toroidal transformer
Why online UPS does not help? Because it produces a stepped sinusoid (in the form of a saw). The toroidal balanced transformer removes harmonics and smoothes the sinusoid.
We (people with input lag) have a group in the social network VK.com. 3 people from the group ordered toroidal balanced transformers and will be testing them soon (when they are delivered to us).

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Re: Pc becomes faster/smoother during night time. During day time its slow/sluggish

Post by dervu » 16 Nov 2022, 05:54

Just reminder to be sure that your PCs work in other locations perfectly, otherwise testing anything is pointless.
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Re: Pc becomes faster/smoother during night time. During day time its slow/sluggish

Post by F1zus » 18 Nov 2022, 11:17

dervu wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 05:54
Just reminder to be sure that your PCs work in other locations perfectly, otherwise testing anything is pointless.
Yes, that's right. First you need to make sure that the problem is related to electricity.
My computer is very bad during the day. Late at night the computer works fine. No mouse delay at night. So the problem is definitely electrical.
In 1-2 weeks we will test the toroidal balanced transformer and find out what it gives.

Who cares, my friend took measurements of the level of electrical noise at different times.
Appliances has been connected to the UPS.
The blue line is the old UPS.
Red - new UPS.
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Re: Pc becomes faster/smoother during night time. During day time its slow/sluggish

Post by miguel1 » 29 Dec 2022, 22:13

Hello this is my first post and i wanted to develop on this.
I mainly use my computer to play League of Legends, mind you it's a laptop, and I have this exact problem. During the day even with high FPS the game feels sluggish/laggy. Curiously after say 2 AM the game runs just like it should. Should i just switch the outlet i'm using/Try a different one? I've seen replies answering it was an electrical problem.

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Re: Pc becomes faster/smoother during night time. During day time its slow/sluggish

Post by Stimpy7314 » 14 Jan 2023, 16:24

miguel1 wrote:
29 Dec 2022, 22:13
Hello this is my first post and i wanted to develop on this.
I mainly use my computer to play League of Legends, mind you it's a laptop, and I have this exact problem. During the day even with high FPS the game feels sluggish/laggy. Curiously after say 2 AM the game runs just like it should. Should i just switch the outlet i'm using/Try a different one? I've seen replies answering it was an electrical problem.
There's no point in switching stuff or do bios hacks. Issue will not go away :roll:

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Re: Pc becomes faster/smoother during night time. During day time its slow/sluggish

Post by ftwknx » 09 Jun 2023, 20:12

F1zus wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 11:17
dervu wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 05:54
Just reminder to be sure that your PCs work in other locations perfectly, otherwise testing anything is pointless.
Yes, that's right. First you need to make sure that the problem is related to electricity.
My computer is very bad during the day. Late at night the computer works fine. No mouse delay at night. So the problem is definitely electrical.
In 1-2 weeks we will test the toroidal balanced transformer and find out what it gives.

Who cares, my friend took measurements of the level of electrical noise at different times.
Appliances has been connected to the UPS.
The blue line is the old UPS.
Red - new UPS.
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did you fix it with the UPS man?

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Re: Pc becomes faster/smoother during night time. During day time its slow/sluggish

Post by feel » 19 May 2024, 16:40

Sparta wrote:
03 Dec 2021, 14:33
i finally solved it. English isn't my strong point but i ll try to explain as clearly as possible. Its not due to emi or radio or whatever interference. Its also not because of bad grounding. Primary cause is due to bad chipset/device initialisation due to voltage in neutral conductor. As you know we are getting single phase ac in our houses which contains phase(110/230V) and neutral(0V) which are ideal voltages. In reality we get like 2-15V in neutral which can be checked by using a multimeter between neutral and earth pins in your socket. If in your bad luck you are getting 40-60V in neutral wire then the circuit is completed via neutral and earth. Its gonna mess around with post operation while clearing nvram using cmos or jumper method. In order to properly initialise them or repair your pc or get rid of lag remove the psu wire and in fact all the devices including hdmi/dvi/vga/display/mouse/keyboard cables. Now we dont have anything connected to cpu. Now remove the case, remove gpu, and remove all ram if you have more than one. Clean one ram module and push it into one of the ram slot. Remove cmos battery and wait for 15-60 seconds and reconnect it. At this point not a single cable is connected while doing this. Now go ahead and connect power cable, keyboard and mouse. Now switch on cpu using power switch. Mash the delete button of the keyboard while its posting. You will get beep codes of no vga or no display. Let it complete the post operation and now switch off cpu using case power button. Now all your devices are completely reset. Now once again remove psu power cable and now populate the ram slots, push the gpu into pcie slot and connect all monitors and all the cables. After this all go ahead and connect psu power cable and switch on pc using case power button and voila your pc is now resolved of any initialisation problems. Go to windows and perfom sfc /scannow and let it complete. Check for any kind of lag now. In short dont clear cmos while any cable including power/monitors/amp/mic etc are connected because these may carry stray currents which mess up the post process during nvram/cmos clear operation and it gets carried into the nvram settings even if you load optimised defaults in the bios. . Thank you.
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Re: Pc becomes faster/smoother during night time. During day time its slow/sluggish

Post by Thatweirdinputlag » 19 May 2024, 20:34

feel wrote:
19 May 2024, 16:40
Sparta wrote:
03 Dec 2021, 14:33
i finally solved it. English isn't my strong point but i ll try to explain as clearly as possible. Its not due to emi or radio or whatever interference. Its also not because of bad grounding. Primary cause is due to bad chipset/device initialisation due to voltage in neutral conductor. As you know we are getting single phase ac in our houses which contains phase(110/230V) and neutral(0V) which are ideal voltages. In reality we get like 2-15V in neutral which can be checked by using a multimeter between neutral and earth pins in your socket. If in your bad luck you are getting 40-60V in neutral wire then the circuit is completed via neutral and earth. Its gonna mess around with post operation while clearing nvram using cmos or jumper method. In order to properly initialise them or repair your pc or get rid of lag remove the psu wire and in fact all the devices including hdmi/dvi/vga/display/mouse/keyboard cables. Now we dont have anything connected to cpu. Now remove the case, remove gpu, and remove all ram if you have more than one. Clean one ram module and push it into one of the ram slot. Remove cmos battery and wait for 15-60 seconds and reconnect it. At this point not a single cable is connected while doing this. Now go ahead and connect power cable, keyboard and mouse. Now switch on cpu using power switch. Mash the delete button of the keyboard while its posting. You will get beep codes of no vga or no display. Let it complete the post operation and now switch off cpu using case power button. Now all your devices are completely reset. Now once again remove psu power cable and now populate the ram slots, push the gpu into pcie slot and connect all monitors and all the cables. After this all go ahead and connect psu power cable and switch on pc using case power button and voila your pc is now resolved of any initialisation problems. Go to windows and perfom sfc /scannow and let it complete. Check for any kind of lag now. In short dont clear cmos while any cable including power/monitors/amp/mic etc are connected because these may carry stray currents which mess up the post process during nvram/cmos clear operation and it gets carried into the nvram settings even if you load optimised defaults in the bios. . Thank you.
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He did mention in one of his posts that it will solve the problem temporarily. But I mean, you can't put a price for a couple of good gaming sessions nowadays! Goodluck
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