It's NOT Your Gear or Electricity, It's YOU!

Separate area for niche lag issues including unexpected causes and/or electromagnetic interference (ECC = retransmits = lag). Interference (EMI, EMF) of all kinds (wired, wireless, external, internal, environment, bad component) can cause error-correction latencies like a bad modem connection. Troubleshooting may require university degree. Your lag issue is likely not EMI. Please read this before entering sub-forum.
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LeGiT
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It's NOT Your Gear or Electricity, It's YOU!

Post by LeGiT » 17 Dec 2024, 18:52

Alright, I'm excited to see that more and more people are starting to realize that the REAL cause of input lag might actually be us!

I've been a Counter-Strike player for 16 years and have 30k+ playing hours across different cs versions. I've spent a small fortune on PCs, monitors, mice, keyboards, you name it. But no matter what I upgrade, my input lag is always inconsistent. Every fix only lasts for a couple of days or weeks. New monitors last a month for me at least. Some days I feel like I'm playing on 1ms, other days it feels like 100ms. It's maddening.

Here's my theory: we build up static electricity, and that messes with our electronics. You know how you get a shock from a doorknob sometimes? What if that same static is causing input lag by interfering with the signals between our body and our PC?

* Pro CS players play on different setups all over the world, with varying power quality. Sure, they have inconsistent days, but I've never seen them have the kind of input lag I'm talking about. And after experiencing this issue for so long, I can practically spot it when spectating other players.

* Ever notice how you play better at certain times of day? Maybe that's when you have less static buildup.

* Offline tournaments: I've taken my "lag" with me to tournaments, where everyone plays on identical PCs. Guess what? The lag persists! This proves it's not my setup at home, it's something I'm carrying with me.

I don't know what the solution is. But perhaps someone can come up with one. If someone denies all of this then explain how offline tournaments feel the same?

simon
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Re: It's NOT Your Gear or Electricity, It's YOU!

Post by simon » 20 Dec 2024, 00:43

If you think it works one way then it should also work the other way around. Make yourself full of static electricity and go see if the game is completely desynced, not smooth etc.
To confirm something one should be able to replicate it. I'm afraid it's not that simple and there are multiple factors that need to be right.

LeGiT
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Re: It's NOT Your Gear or Electricity, It's YOU!

Post by LeGiT » 20 Dec 2024, 01:27

I'm not just "thinking". It definitely works. Go touch a grounded metal pipe or any grounded object and then play for a while. You'll see the difference. This is the only explanation of why all of these problems carry with us to offline tournaments.

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Slender
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Re: It's NOT Your Gear or Electricity, It's YOU!

Post by Slender » 20 Dec 2024, 03:02

you NOT ac transformer, you cannot generate this rfi in your body.
But I am sure that you do not deceive your feelings. You need to find another explanation that you can prove with numbers.
when you touch keyboard / mouse / headphones, interference accumulates at these points. You need to find reason why.

Zwss98
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Re: It's NOT Your Gear or Electricity, It's YOU!

Post by Zwss98 » 20 Dec 2024, 03:24

yes, you are 100% right with that explanation because i've tried everything comes to my mind , the only thing recently helped a bit but input lag still fluctuating , is playing barefoot while setting on a couch without metal legs but even that sometimes get worse as your said myabe becuz of static buildup , and i get shocked alot of times but not in my home for some reason but when i go outside.

also its not not electricity related becuz iv'e tried offline& online ups and the performance didn't change a bit and i've also tried 3 different locations far from my home and its the same result and iv'e also made 2 extended wall outlets dedicated to my pc and it didnt change anything , so what left ? tried moving suspected emi & rfi devices like routers and suff and also didnt help , at this piont i was so pissed and running out of ideas to try, lastly i thought what if it was me but i underestimated the idea at fisrt but when i tried wearing shoes and not touching the mouse for several minutes then trying it , it feels good for seconds the issue is back. and so many tests iv'e done that proves this possibility.





sorry if my english is bad :mrgreen:

bleya99
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Re: It's NOT Your Gear or Electricity, It's YOU!

Post by bleya99 » 20 Dec 2024, 05:08

Zwss98 wrote:
20 Dec 2024, 03:24
yes, you are 100% right with that explanation because i've tried everything comes to my mind , the only thing recently helped a bit but input lag still fluctuating , is playing barefoot while setting on a couch without metal legs but even that sometimes get worse as your said myabe becuz of static buildup , and i get shocked alot of times but not in my home for some reason but when i go outside.

also its not not electricity related becuz iv'e tried offline& online ups and the performance didn't change a bit and i've also tried 3 different locations far from my home and its the same result and iv'e also made 2 extended wall outlets dedicated to my pc and it didnt change anything , so what left ? tried moving suspected emi & rfi devices like routers and suff and also didnt help , at this piont i was so pissed and running out of ideas to try, lastly i thought what if it was me but i underestimated the idea at fisrt but when i tried wearing shoes and not touching the mouse for several minutes then trying it , it feels good for seconds the issue is back. and so many tests iv'e done that proves this possibility.





sorry if my english is bad :mrgreen:
Ok, this will sound nuts, I understand. Two constant factors that I've noticed so far that are replicable over and over are:

1. Sitting up. Like really straight (I have mesh chair, so it's easier for me). Your upper body should be seated properly, this makes instant difference.

2. Touching and holding my fingers on the front ports for around 10 seconds. This makes next 2-3 minutes of gameplay so easy, not necesseraly smoother, but other players become noobs and my bullets land. My PC outlet is grounded.

Unreazz
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Re: It's NOT Your Gear or Electricity, It's YOU!

Post by Unreazz » 20 Dec 2024, 07:44

So the theories are slowly becoming more and more ridiculous, especially that you now think you yourself are the cause of input lag... Guys please .... What makes you different from other people in terms of anatomy? You didn't have any problems before. I've been reading more posts like this recently and now it's getting out of hand. Please stop it.

TN_fun
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Re: It's NOT Your Gear or Electricity, It's YOU!

Post by TN_fun » 20 Dec 2024, 09:06

Unreazz wrote:
20 Dec 2024, 07:44
So the theories are slowly becoming more and more ridiculous, especially that you now think you yourself are the cause of input lag... Guys please .... What makes you different from other people in terms of anatomy? You didn't have any problems before. I've been reading more posts like this recently and now it's getting out of hand. Please stop it.
As an option bad water with metals or poisoning with heavy metals. This can be found out by taking tests. It is inexpensive in any country.

LeGiT
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Re: It's NOT Your Gear or Electricity, It's YOU!

Post by LeGiT » 20 Dec 2024, 15:24

Unreazz wrote:
20 Dec 2024, 07:44
So the theories are slowly becoming more and more ridiculous, especially that you now think you yourself are the cause of input lag... Guys please .... What makes you different from other people in terms of anatomy? You didn't have any problems before. I've been reading more posts like this recently and now it's getting out of hand. Please stop it.
You can ignore this post. And you can also ignore the fact that anti-static wrist straps on both hands and grounding your feet fixes the input lag.

The problem is: No one is capable enough to understand this problem. So please don't come here ridiculing others for sharing what has worked for them. If you were a qualified person to solve this, you would have done this already.

Clearly I'm not gonna throw away this setup just because you think its ridiculous right? Nobody is able to understand this issue. This topic makes everyone go back to stoneage and scratch their heads. I suggest you to try it as it works for a lot of people. Once you see the difference, you can perhaps help us understand why its working for us.

Unreazz
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Re: It's NOT Your Gear or Electricity, It's YOU!

Post by Unreazz » 20 Dec 2024, 16:06

LeGiT wrote:
20 Dec 2024, 15:24
Unreazz wrote:
20 Dec 2024, 07:44
So the theories are slowly becoming more and more ridiculous, especially that you now think you yourself are the cause of input lag... Guys please .... What makes you different from other people in terms of anatomy? You didn't have any problems before. I've been reading more posts like this recently and now it's getting out of hand. Please stop it.
You can ignore this post. And you can also ignore the fact that anti-static wrist straps on both hands and grounding your feet fixes the input lag.

The problem is: No one is capable enough to understand this problem. So please don't come here ridiculing others for sharing what has worked for them. If you were a qualified person to solve this, you would have done this already.

Clearly I'm not gonna throw away this setup just because you think its ridiculous right? Nobody is able to understand this issue. This topic makes everyone go back to stoneage and scratch their heads. I suggest you to try it as it works for a lot of people. Once you see the difference, you can perhaps help us understand why its working for us.
Ok please show me where you got the info from and what exactly you need to be able to do this. I would like to test it myself and then give my feedback

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