[Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

[Thatweirdinputlag]

This all seems indicative of an EMI issue, I will purchase one of those noise measuring devices and report back if I do in fact have EMI.

Correction, because too many new users in this forum make the wrong assumption.

More than 99%+ of the time, no it does not indicate EMI issue.

Internet slowdowns can create a lot of local weirdness, since the mouse cursor responsiveness is kind of linked to internet performance, and Internet performance can vary during peak / offpeak, etc.

Can we at least stop spitting the "99%+ of the time" casually? I don't blame you for not discerning whether a new comer has the same issue most of us are having in here or just another bi-product of hardware/software incompatibility or stability issues and since you uphold yourself as a man of science, please do act like one.

Your 99%+ number has absolutely 0 merit or foundation and might be even more misleading then to flat on saying "Yep, you have that weird unexplainable issue". I have pretty much an average reaction time "about 190-210ms", yet I am a creature of habit, gaming was one of my habits that I actually enjoyed and can definitely distinguish between how a slow game feels in regards to a normal one, specially in games that I have spent years playing. So you don't really need to be a unicorn to realize something is acting weird in your game.

I do wish that our problem was a bit easier to measure or quantify, But for now, this is what we have, just a bunch of randoms sharing our experiences. The best thing you can do is to provide a moderated platform to help facilitate a healthy, fact induced conversations/findings that might help us get closer to the issue. Definitely not banishing this entire sub-forum into oblivion just because you don't have the time to properly moderate it plus probably lacking the actual first hand experience to even relate to the problem. For Gods sake's your forum preaches low input lag & high refresh rates, how on earth did you justify banishing this sub-forum?

A little rant that I've had capsuled for a while now, I will limit my interaction with this forum and keep updating my results on one of the threads since I promised to do so "If I happen not to scratch anyone's ego with this reply and actually end up getting banned". After that I'm out.

Cheers

[Unreazz]

Yes i think too that many drifting into wrong directions and path...

Last time when i was googling...i find an whole topic in german where guys talk about electricity and input lag...

that forum is specialized about electricity and all stuff around...but for germans and in deutsch only ^^


I even find Eonds there which is long member here on blurbusters...

https://www.elektrikforum.de/threads/on ... rom.37676/

Here is it but these guys dont really figure out anything...

similar to most and many topics here on blurbuster about emi and electricity...


i think that all should already proof that electricity cant be the main issue and 99% all people around world...even the russians...are still talking about this bullshit and try to find something deep and an magic fix in that all electricity...

similar forums and topics exist even on Russlan side of internet...

This Guys go rly crazy and even turn on there Iron while playing csgo...haha xd


its rly funny to read all this and im an guy who understand all 3 languages...english, Russlan, german...even Ukralnlan...


that why i can say too that all and most problems are 99% not related to electricity.

and i dont need to be an specialist in that stuff to understand all this and just all my researches my knowledge in many languages and my own online gaming experiences and my logic are enough to say that and confirm all...


but that the point i come too...at the end of all this electricity bullshit path...

This are not Eonds posts, it was mine. I just created an account there to also share my expierences and took his name. the OP from this thread is the german guy, who ordered a leasedline. Forgot his name but he is also here on blurbusters

[blackmagic]

Yes i think too that many drifting into wrong directions and path...

Last time when i was googling...i find an whole topic in german where guys talk about electricity and input lag...

that forum is specialized about electricity and all stuff around...but for germans and in deutsch only ^^


I even find Eonds there which is long member here on blurbusters...

https://www.elektrikforum.de/threads/on ... rom.37676/

Here is it but these guys dont really figure out anything...

similar to most and many topics here on blurbuster about emi and electricity...


i think that all should already proof that electricity cant be the main issue and 99% all people around world...even the russians...are still talking about this bullshit and try to find something deep and an magic fix in that all electricity...

similar forums and topics exist even on Russlan side of internet...

This Guys go rly crazy and even turn on there Iron while playing csgo...haha xd


its rly funny to read all this and im an guy who understand all 3 languages...english, Russlan, german...even Ukralnlan...


that why i can say too that all and most problems are 99% not related to electricity.

and i dont need to be an specialist in that stuff to understand all this and just all my researches my knowledge in many languages and my own online gaming experiences and my logic are enough to say that and confirm all...


but that the point i come too...at the end of all this electricity bullshit path...

This are not Eonds posts, it was mine. I just created an account there to also share my expierences and took his name. the OP from this thread is the german guy, who ordered a leasedline. Forgot his name but he is also here on blurbusters

oh ok weiß jetzt bescheid...



but here just some clips and examples of how russians handle and fight the input


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/r1uFOGX1gfY
have no idea what he doing but it seems to work and the title says inputlag...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbmInD3 ... el=THUNDER
very good compilation of input lag problem


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qx7lUp ... =OmarHayam
this guy completely put foil on his plastic router and grounded it...
now not even the UFOS gonna detect his location and his input lag...

2:13 it starts and here the router in foil 3:21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNh2YV1 ... 1nINPUTLAG
best fix of the best...this guy literally talks about how just a turned on soldering iron or just iron in his room and next to his pc...fixed his hitreg and input lag improved everything for him...hahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiQcaUm ... annel=Weer
no comment...



the russians are the most crazy when it comes to input lag and do all the shitt...



https://www.youtube.com/shorts/443ibVNZ9qY
looks like he facing too emi and electricity problems...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/66CktFzRLlo
and this guy fixed his input lag already...with good proof

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i think that most of the people gonna need soon an good very good therapy after all this...


and that my friends are the reason why all this bullshit is now in offtopic on blurbusters...
chief completely do the right thing.



because electricity or emi are really really rare issues but probably fixable for those people that really experience such rare problem...and its just impossible that so many different people around the world experience the same emi and electricity problems.

i think that logic and proof enough.

our problems 99% not related to that.



and that why chief says that 99% cant be that cause...and he fully right about this. 100% right about this.



we need to stop this bullshit talk about power, electricity, emi...and start to look at the things and our problems different and from another angle and search somewhere elsewhere for our common online gaming problems that we experience and noticed one day...

[Mugabi]

I truly think that it’s say 60% electricity or computer components reacting to electricity + 40% servers/isp/internet quality. Saying it’s all electricity is wrong.

[jamesdelrosa]

I've been lurking this thread for awhile.

Not sure why, but removing the grounding from my outside cable line helped with the way my PC responds and sound card ironically sounds better... It's honestly night and day. I can't explain why.

I noticed this when there was a bad storm and it knocked out my cable/ISP. Would tether PC to phone and everything was significantly better.

I can't recommend removing the grounding for safety reasons, but the only other option would be to switch to fiber internet since it doesn't need to be grounded and should theoretically not have the same issues as a high powered copper line. (Kinda makes no sense unless the grounding is feeding off the main power line to the house..)

I've tried FWA 5G so far and it completely removed the "grounding issue" from my home (Free trial via verizion).

Still have my Cable ISP, though I will fully switch to FIBER once my promo ends. Right now no grounding more or less feels like alternative options.

Again, I cant explain why but its a lot better subjectively. I had my friend essentially blind test this with me and I guessed it correctly 10/10 times lol

[loccomacco]

This all seems indicative of an EMI issue, I will purchase one of those noise measuring devices and report back if I do in fact have EMI.

Correction, because too many new users in this forum make the wrong assumption.

More than 99%+ of the time, no it does not indicate EMI issue.

Internet slowdowns can create a lot of local weirdness, since the mouse cursor responsiveness is kind of linked to internet performance, and Internet performance can vary during peak / offpeak, etc.

Can we at least stop spitting the "99%+ of the time" casually? I don't blame you for not discerning whether a new comer has the same issue most of us are having in here or just another bi-product of hardware/software incompatibility or stability issues and since you uphold yourself as a man of science, please do act like one.

Your 99%+ number has absolutely 0 merit or foundation and might be even more misleading then to flat on saying "Yep, you have that weird unexplainable issue". I have pretty much an average reaction time "about 190-210ms", yet I am a creature of habit, gaming was one of my habits that I actually enjoyed and can definitely distinguish between how a slow game feels in regards to a normal one, specially in games that I have spent years playing. So you don't really need to be a unicorn to realize something is acting weird in your game.

I do wish that our problem was a bit easier to measure or quantify, But for now, this is what we have, just a bunch of randoms sharing our experiences. The best thing you can do is to provide a moderated platform to help facilitate a healthy, fact induced conversations/findings that might help us get closer to the issue. Definitely not banishing this entire sub-forum into oblivion just because you don't have the time to properly moderate it plus probably lacking the actual first hand experience to even relate to the problem. For Gods sake's your forum preaches low input lag & high refresh rates, how on earth did you justify banishing this sub-forum?

A little rant that I've had capsuled for a while now, I will limit my interaction with this forum and keep updating my results on one of the threads since I promised to do so "If I happen not to scratch anyone's ego with this reply and actually end up getting banned". After that I'm out.

Cheers

Don't worry, you will not end up getting banned, but probably your post will end up getting removed, because the last time I talked a bit like you, my post got removed. Thank you, you actually said whatever I've said in that post with more details. Hope yours will not end up getting removed as mine.
If the chief doesn't like us to be in his forum or for whatever reason, at least he can help us by leading us to a proper forum and link that forum to this sub-forum, then he can close the whole sub-forum if he wants.
My suggestion is reddit, because it have electricians in it, but it would be great if someone creates a forum and gives it's link to chief to put it in his site for leading us to that forum

[The Blur Buster Fan]

Hello again. It's been some time since I posted. I noticed something strange today. I changed the name of my pc and the choppy lag in my games improved noticeably. I still get no regs and enemies still skip some motion making them look fast, but their motion looks smoother and I can land slower projectiles with skill now instead of rng.
So the obvious question is, is this some undetectable virus problem temporarily averted or an electrical problem improved slightly? Does changing the name of the PC trigger a reset of some sort?

What was the names before and after ?

I forgot. Some generic names. But alas. It stopped working.

[Chief Blur Buster]

Can we at least stop spitting the "99%+ of the time" casually?

While 99 is an arbitrary number, it's still true it's somewhere far beyond that order of magnitude (could be 99.3427553% or could be 99.99994734%). Regardless, it's still true it is far beyond the 99. But for forum reply purposes, it is sometimes more convenient to just say it than other alternatives.

Forums are not a good statistical study; happy users don't usually post in a forum. I do acknowledge that 1,000,000 people having EMI-derived problems in PC responsiveness in a population of 1 billion, is definitely a large number, but it's still less than 1%.

Yes, yes, 99 is definitely a common arbitrary "weasel number" discouraged in real science, but it still serves a convenient reply to pseudoscience posts that stubbornly automatically assumes EMI. However, bluntly, it's at least an order of magnitude beyond that -- so even 99 is still a conservative convenient number to throw around. This forum still dilutes Blur Busters' reputation in other spheres when too much of Blur Busters fans isn't about anything else other than EMI.

Mystery problems, when people really work on them, have typically been traced to non-EMI-related problems. I hate to sound like a broken record, but that's true.

Yes, EMI issues are legit, but somehow, the presence of an EMI forum on Blur Busters accidentally gives it too much legitimacy, and I have to course-correct on that. I want this forum to continue to exist, but preferably filled with people who only spend 10% (or less) of their post-reply-time in the EMI forum. Instead, we get too many new forum members registering only because of this EMI subforum.

Such forum members (who signed up only for EMI, based on their posting history) are increasingly thread-crappers in other threads outside EMI forums (e.g. this threadcrap post), which only creates more trouble for Blur Busters Forums. If it continues, as an alternative to simply removing this discussion forum, I may even create a separate forum registration for EMI forum versus non-EMI forum; a stronger firewall between EMI and non-EMI -- maybe even on a separate non-BlurBusters domain name. But I hope it doesn't go that far.

I currently don't have much bandwidth for criticisms on these subtopics outside Blur Busters' purview, though I've allowed this subforum to exist for reasons already explained elsewhere in this subforum. Your post is just sheer nitpicking on a very tame catchall weasel-number that was simply a lower-bounds;

Don't worry, you will not end up getting banned, but probably your post will end up getting removed

Yes, moderating is extremely strict in the EMI forum.

EMI, while legit, this forum exists as a service to the community, but it attracts way too many new forum members that is outside of Blur Busters Forums audience, and we are repeatedly this close to discontinuing this forum.

I'm not going to remove @Thatweirdinputlag's post, it's tamer than other incendiary posts that I've had to remove. However, subsequent to this date of today, I will remove replies on this offtopic subtopic (moderating technique, or correcting newbies, etc) -- replying to me or sending me PM's about the EMI forum is not going to help anyone's causes here.

Thread closed because of the subtopic. Create a new thread (without mentioning/complaining/criticizing moderating technique).