PC- is affected with 230V -TEST

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MegaMelmek
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PC- is affected with 230V -TEST

Post by MegaMelmek » 19 Jun 2022, 05:02

There is many ppl with disbelive that they have problem with electricity so
i find on internet simple test how you can find if you eletricity affecting your PC.
Play that attachments with the sound on and you can see how can other stuff on 230V infect your PC how is that possible idk.
Its not working on every attempt you have to try this like 5 time if your PC do something (like mine play sound usb connection) then you know there is something wrong.

https://youtu.be/H1Ck4iaB9Kg

g00d8y3
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Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST

Post by g00d8y3 » 25 Jun 2022, 18:16

Someone should try 60hz 120/110v voltage while gaming i guess its a fix.

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Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST

Post by wadge » 26 Jun 2022, 14:40

g00d8y3 wrote: ↑
25 Jun 2022, 18:16
Someone should try 60hz 120/110v voltage while gaming i guess its a fix.
You know if the 220v/110v converters also convert 50hz to 60hz ?

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Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST

Post by pox02 » 27 Jun 2022, 09:51

wadge wrote: ↑
26 Jun 2022, 14:40
g00d8y3 wrote: ↑
25 Jun 2022, 18:16
Someone should try 60hz 120/110v voltage while gaming i guess its a fix.
You know if the 220v/110v converters also convert 50hz to 60hz ?
50hz to 60hz is very expensive what u can do get ups online pull out the batteries from it and use it as 60hz converter other option get a power station 120v/60hz with external batteries and charge them with 230v/50hz the problem is hard to get those batteries because IATA law

https://www.iata.org/en/programs/cargo/ ... batteries/
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Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST

Post by wadge » 27 Jun 2022, 11:23

Or is it possible to use a converter like this one : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BG983Y5? ... th=1&psc=1 to convert 220v to 110v and then use something to regulate the frequency like a VFD : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fictory-Motor- ... NrPXRydWU= not sure how to wire the vfd as it is single phase to 3 phase :roll:

I also ordered a small device to check the frequency that comes to my wall outlet to see if there is a significant variation or not.

From what i read online, old hardware might have been sensitive to ac frequency but maybe modern hardware with crystal clock aren't...

To me it must be something going out of sync/clock as the first game of the day is always on point (i mean when i start the pc and it was shut down for a while) and then it deterior...

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Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST

Post by pox02 » 27 Jun 2022, 12:31

wadge wrote: ↑
27 Jun 2022, 11:23
Or is it possible to use a converter like this one : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BG983Y5? ... th=1&psc=1 to convert 220v to 110v and then use something to regulate the frequency like a VFD : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fictory-Motor- ... NrPXRydWU= not sure how to wire the vfd as it is single phase to 3 phase :roll:

I also ordered a small device to check the frequency that comes to my wall outlet to see if there is a significant variation or not.

From what i read online, old hardware might have been sensitive to ac frequency but maybe modern hardware with crystal clock aren't...

To me it must be something going out of sync/clock as the first game of the day is always on point (i mean when i start the pc and it was shut down for a while) and then it deterior...
u are correct most psus sensitive to 230v/50hz because most of them build on 120v/60hz

phpBB [video]
good video why 50hz worse on europe

i suggest get power station with external batteries u get best of both worlds 120v/60hz + able to charge the batteries with 230v/50hz u can look at " ego power station"
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Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST

Post by wadge » 27 Jun 2022, 15:32

pox02 wrote: ↑
27 Jun 2022, 12:31
wadge wrote: ↑
27 Jun 2022, 11:23
Or is it possible to use a converter like this one : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BG983Y5? ... th=1&psc=1 to convert 220v to 110v and then use something to regulate the frequency like a VFD : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fictory-Motor- ... NrPXRydWU= not sure how to wire the vfd as it is single phase to 3 phase :roll:

I also ordered a small device to check the frequency that comes to my wall outlet to see if there is a significant variation or not.

From what i read online, old hardware might have been sensitive to ac frequency but maybe modern hardware with crystal clock aren't...

To me it must be something going out of sync/clock as the first game of the day is always on point (i mean when i start the pc and it was shut down for a while) and then it deterior...
u are correct most psus sensitive to 230v/50hz because most of them build on 120v/60hz

phpBB [video]
good video why 50hz worse on europe

i suggest get power station with external batteries u get best of both worlds 120v/60hz + able to charge the batteries with 230v/50hz u can look at " ego power station"
Thats something i had i mind but i saw a post from a guy on this forum who said power station didn't help... and it's not cheap, it's around 1000€ for a good one :roll:

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Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST

Post by Thatweirdinputlag » 27 Jun 2022, 15:40

Didn't even realize how much AC power can effect a game. 20% slower is actually insane! Then again, any sort of power passing after the PSU is purely DC "Direct Current" in the form of 3.3V, 5V and 12V. Those go through separate rails and do not have a frequency like Alternating Current, their frequency is actually 0 since the current is always on at any given time. All monitors also have power supplies that also transforms the AC into DC.

Just as a side note, a lot of the top tier teams in the ESports industry specially in triple A titles are EU teams, and I can guarantee you on that high level of skill and competitiveness, they wouldn't have been able to make it by being 20% slower.
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Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST

Post by wadge » 27 Jun 2022, 16:05

Thatweirdinputlag wrote: ↑
27 Jun 2022, 15:40
Didn't even realize how much AC power can effect a game. 20% slower is actually insane! Then again, any sort of power passing after the PSU is purely DC "Direct Current" in the form of 3.3V, 5V and 12V. Those go through separate rails and do not have a frequency like Alternating Current, their frequency is actually 0 since the current is always on at any given time. All monitors also have power supplies that also transforms the AC into DC.

Just as a side note, a lot of the top tier teams in the ESports industry specially in triple A titles are EU teams, and I can guarantee you on that high level of skill and competitiveness, they wouldn't have been able to make it by being 20% slower.
Thats also true but i'm convince something is altering the way our pc is supposed to work properly

And therefore i also came on a different supposition, at the end what rules our pc are those clocks build in it called crystal oscillators. I found an interesting article about temperature affecting the way they are working and there is other culprit (voltages, rfi and so on)
here is the link : https://www.electronicdesign.com/techno ... n-crystals

I'm sure we can all regroup our knowledge and finally find what is causing all this mess !

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Re: PC- is affected with 230V -TEST

Post by pox02 » 28 Jun 2022, 05:02

wadge wrote: ↑
27 Jun 2022, 15:32
pox02 wrote: ↑
27 Jun 2022, 12:31
wadge wrote: ↑
27 Jun 2022, 11:23
Or is it possible to use a converter like this one : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BG983Y5? ... th=1&psc=1 to convert 220v to 110v and then use something to regulate the frequency like a VFD : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fictory-Motor- ... NrPXRydWU= not sure how to wire the vfd as it is single phase to 3 phase :roll:

I also ordered a small device to check the frequency that comes to my wall outlet to see if there is a significant variation or not.

From what i read online, old hardware might have been sensitive to ac frequency but maybe modern hardware with crystal clock aren't...

To me it must be something going out of sync/clock as the first game of the day is always on point (i mean when i start the pc and it was shut down for a while) and then it deterior...
u are correct most psus sensitive to 230v/50hz because most of them build on 120v/60hz

phpBB [video]
good video why 50hz worse on europe

i suggest get power station with external batteries u get best of both worlds 120v/60hz + able to charge the batteries with 230v/50hz u can look at " ego power station"
Thats something i had i mind but i saw a post from a guy on this forum who said power station didn't help... and it's not cheap, it's around 1000€ for a good one :roll:
hes power station build internally i never will go on that path if i was him external is much better
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