I did not replace only mobo and CPU. I replaced everything:Iserverthefirelord wrote: ↑15 Oct 2022, 08:41Complete offtopic (or maybe not) - IIRC you had 5600x and some b550, asus or msi tomahawk one? You swapped these for 3d & crosshair viii, respectively? Got any improvement? Or how does it feel at least (5600x vs 3d cpu)? My gear is almost the same as yours, that's why I'm asking.
- PSU
- Mobo
- CPU
- GPU
- RAM
- Drives
- Keyboard
- Mouse
- Headphones
- Monitor
- Routers
Even replaced mousepad to skypad, to rule out muddy mousepad factor to be sure in oncoming months.
Only ethernet cable and displayport cable are old.
I turned out everything was broken, got most difference from switching mobo, but every other part also had its share.
If I had to evaluate which part was most affecting that issue would be:
Motherboard -> M2 SSD -> Mouse -> Headphones -> Keyboard -> Routers.
Also on B550 Gaming Plus from MSI I had desync in timers in CPU-Z (version after MSI bug fix) that I could see even after replacing it with same new model (it was only good at first start), but it was before I replaced M2 SSD. With new motherboard from Asus (X570) and new M2 SSD it did not happen.
That is why I switched to X570, because it was weird for me that it would still happen on B550, even though someone from MSI forums with MSI board checked it for me and it did not happen for him at all, so something was wrong. Did not want to risk going with same mobo again. Maybe that M2 drive was somehow affecting something, idk.
Still, I would not say that is fixed, even if it is for now, because to say that I would have to play at least half a year to be sure it doesn't come back and I had too much false positives in recent years with trying different "fixes".
Toroids on power cables, running on online UPS battery, isolation transformer, using capacitors used in capacitor banks, dc blockers.
What is interesting is that running on UPS battery and not having improvement could paradoxically mean two things:
- Issue is in PC - like real hardware issue not originating from electric grid, because you rule out electric grid - no real improvement (assuming that nothing with battery is wrong at that moment)
- Issue is in electric grid - PC is broken - that is why you don't get real improvement
At least it works like that in my case.
It is safest to replace everything if you have at least some guess where source of the problem is (when difference is huge after disconnecting faulty device or whatever else was done). Remove that source and replace whole setup.
If you should replace your setup also depends if your PC works flawlessly in another location. To be completely sure, you would have to use computer at that another location that never ever had this issue and compare your PC to this other PC at that other location.
All comes down to experience and knowing what real gameplay should look like.
Still even after fighting with this crap for years I can't get real proof like everyone else can't. Maybe someday I will have to do another 1000fps cam recording and try to compare that to older ones with 1:1 setup, but so far my experience was it is really hard to find anything. While you can tell immediately something is wrong when using PC affected by this issue.
Even if I wanted to recreate this issue with device and its faulty connections that was affecting it all, it is too risky for me financially (risk of new PC getting damaged too) and would require tons of money and free time.