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I think I found a way to reproduce the "issue"
Posted: 31 Jan 2023, 23:49
by woodyfly
So the hardest thing about fixing this electricity or mystery issue is finding a way to consistently reproduce the issue. If we just go by "oh it feels like there's less input lag" it's not easy to quantify. So I believe I found a way to reproduce the symptoms atleast for my system. I asked a bunch of my friends to do the following test:
xl2546k , turn on dyac
Go into a server, fps_max 290
Move their character and mouse around.
Does their screen look jittery/stutter when moving the mouse? Everyone said it's smooth, some said it's buttery smooth.
My game? It looks jittery. When I move my mouse around my game looks very stuttery. So from this I can confirm that something is wrong with my system. Electricity is a possible culprit because I've already changed so many parts of my PC over the years and if it is electricity, it's not likely your only house but your whole neighborhood or area. I moved across the street to another place. I have the same issue.
Now question is, instead of upgrading part by part has anybody here gotten a whole new PC/monitor/peripherals/cables EVERYTHING NEW? Nothing from the old PC.
Re: I think I found a way to reproduce the "issue"
Posted: 01 Feb 2023, 02:46
by nannii
woodyfly wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 23:49
So the hardest thing about fixing this electricity or mystery issue is finding a way to consistently reproduce the issue. If we just go by "oh it feels like there's less input lag" it's not easy to quantify. So I believe I found a way to reproduce the symptoms atleast for my system. I asked a bunch of my friends to do the following test:
xl2546k , turn on dyac
Go into a server, fps_max 290
Move their character and mouse around.
Does their screen look jittery/stutter when moving the mouse? Everyone said it's smooth, some said it's buttery smooth.
My game? It looks jittery. When I move my mouse around my game looks very stuttery. So from this I can confirm that something is wrong with my system. Electricity is a possible culprit because I've already changed so many parts of my PC over the years and if it is electricity, it's not likely your only house but your whole neighborhood or area. I moved across the street to another place. I have the same issue.
Now question is, instead of upgrading part by part has anybody here gotten a whole new PC/monitor/peripherals/cables EVERYTHING NEW? Nothing from the old PC.
I had input lag, desync etc in my old apartment, sold everything, moved to a new apartment(new building), bought everything new, every peripherals, cables, took nothing from old old house,new ISP and after 1 week it all came back( extreme desync, floaty mouse, 60hz monitor feel).
Re: I think I found a way to reproduce the "issue"
Posted: 01 Feb 2023, 07:45
by assombrosso
nannii wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 02:46
woodyfly wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 23:49
So the hardest thing about fixing this electricity or mystery issue is finding a way to consistently reproduce the issue. If we just go by "oh it feels like there's less input lag" it's not easy to quantify. So I believe I found a way to reproduce the symptoms atleast for my system. I asked a bunch of my friends to do the following test:
xl2546k , turn on dyac
Go into a server, fps_max 290
Move their character and mouse around.
Does their screen look jittery/stutter when moving the mouse? Everyone said it's smooth, some said it's buttery smooth.
My game? It looks jittery. When I move my mouse around my game looks very stuttery. So from this I can confirm that something is wrong with my system. Electricity is a possible culprit because I've already changed so many parts of my PC over the years and if it is electricity, it's not likely your only house but your whole neighborhood or area. I moved across the street to another place. I have the same issue.
Now question is, instead of upgrading part by part has anybody here gotten a whole new PC/monitor/peripherals/cables EVERYTHING NEW? Nothing from the old PC.
I had input lag, desync etc in my old apartment, sold everything, moved to a new apartment(new building), bought everything new, every peripherals, cables, took nothing from old old house,new ISP and after 1 week it all came back( extreme desync, floaty mouse, 60hz monitor feel).
I have recently just accepeted that if you have this issue, you won’t be able to fix it unless you move different countries and play in a pro gamer pc and then maybe you can fix it.
Re: I think I found a way to reproduce the "issue"
Posted: 01 Feb 2023, 12:42
by cybepine
nannii wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 02:46
woodyfly wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 23:49
So the hardest thing about fixing this electricity or mystery issue is finding a way to consistently reproduce the issue. If we just go by "oh it feels like there's less input lag" it's not easy to quantify. So I believe I found a way to reproduce the symptoms atleast for my system. I asked a bunch of my friends to do the following test:
xl2546k , turn on dyac
Go into a server, fps_max 290
Move their character and mouse around.
Does their screen look jittery/stutter when moving the mouse? Everyone said it's smooth, some said it's buttery smooth.
My game? It looks jittery. When I move my mouse around my game looks very stuttery. So from this I can confirm that something is wrong with my system. Electricity is a possible culprit because I've already changed so many parts of my PC over the years and if it is electricity, it's not likely your only house but your whole neighborhood or area. I moved across the street to another place. I have the same issue.
Now question is, instead of upgrading part by part has anybody here gotten a whole new PC/monitor/peripherals/cables EVERYTHING NEW? Nothing from the old PC.
I had input lag, desync etc in my old apartment, sold everything, moved to a new apartment(new building), bought everything new, every peripherals, cables, took nothing from old old house,new ISP and after 1 week it all came back( extreme desync, floaty mouse, 60hz monitor feel).
That feels so bad.
I have to ask, if it helps to solve your issue... Do you have any dimmable lights (dimmers)? Transparent PC case? Liquid cooling in PC?
Re: I think I found a way to reproduce the "issue"
Posted: 01 Feb 2023, 13:49
by dervu
In that case maybe there is something that you are doing wrong while building PC, unless you bought prebuilt. If ESD happens, that can degrade hardware performance, but somehow most people don't care about such things and don't have any issues.
Re: I think I found a way to reproduce the "issue"
Posted: 01 Feb 2023, 14:32
by nannii
cybepine wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 12:42
nannii wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 02:46
woodyfly wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 23:49
So the hardest thing about fixing this electricity or mystery issue is finding a way to consistently reproduce the issue. If we just go by "oh it feels like there's less input lag" it's not easy to quantify. So I believe I found a way to reproduce the symptoms atleast for my system. I asked a bunch of my friends to do the following test:
xl2546k , turn on dyac
Go into a server, fps_max 290
Move their character and mouse around.
Does their screen look jittery/stutter when moving the mouse? Everyone said it's smooth, some said it's buttery smooth.
My game? It looks jittery. When I move my mouse around my game looks very stuttery. So from this I can confirm that something is wrong with my system. Electricity is a possible culprit because I've already changed so many parts of my PC over the years and if it is electricity, it's not likely your only house but your whole neighborhood or area. I moved across the street to another place. I have the same issue.
Now question is, instead of upgrading part by part has anybody here gotten a whole new PC/monitor/peripherals/cables EVERYTHING NEW? Nothing from the old PC.
I had input lag, desync etc in my old apartment, sold everything, moved to a new apartment(new building), bought everything new, every peripherals, cables, took nothing from old old house,new ISP and after 1 week it all came back( extreme desync, floaty mouse, 60hz monitor feel).
That feels so bad.
I have to ask, if it helps to solve your issue... Do you have any dimmable lights (dimmers)? Transparent PC case? Liquid cooling in PC?
No dimmable lights, pc case is solid metal case with Noctua Air Cooler ( previous PC had watter cooling) so yeah..
I got my PC build by an expert and he built it with rubber gloves on, dont know if its good for potential ESD, but whats weird is that 2-3 times in week, at nights, game becomes perfect, everything becomes perfect sudenly( i even noticed it once while doing some stuff because my monitor just sudenly became brighter, like someone pressed button and it became 20% brigther). I really cant explain this weird thing everyone is experiencing..
Re: I think I found a way to reproduce the "issue"
Posted: 02 Feb 2023, 06:05
by InputLagger
nannii wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 14:32
cybepine wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 12:42
nannii wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 02:46
woodyfly wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 23:49
So the hardest thing about fixing this electricity or mystery issue is finding a way to consistently reproduce the issue. If we just go by "oh it feels like there's less input lag" it's not easy to quantify. So I believe I found a way to reproduce the symptoms atleast for my system. I asked a bunch of my friends to do the following test:
xl2546k , turn on dyac
Go into a server, fps_max 290
Move their character and mouse around.
Does their screen look jittery/stutter when moving the mouse? Everyone said it's smooth, some said it's buttery smooth.
My game? It looks jittery. When I move my mouse around my game looks very stuttery. So from this I can confirm that something is wrong with my system. Electricity is a possible culprit because I've already changed so many parts of my PC over the years and if it is electricity, it's not likely your only house but your whole neighborhood or area. I moved across the street to another place. I have the same issue.
Now question is, instead of upgrading part by part has anybody here gotten a whole new PC/monitor/peripherals/cables EVERYTHING NEW? Nothing from the old PC.
I had input lag, desync etc in my old apartment, sold everything, moved to a new apartment(new building), bought everything new, every peripherals, cables, took nothing from old old house,new ISP and after 1 week it all came back( extreme desync, floaty mouse, 60hz monitor feel).
That feels so bad.
I have to ask, if it helps to solve your issue... Do you have any dimmable lights (dimmers)? Transparent PC case? Liquid cooling in PC?
No dimmable lights, pc case is solid metal case with Noctua Air Cooler ( previous PC had watter cooling) so yeah..
I got my PC build by an expert and he built it with rubber gloves on, dont know if its good for potential ESD, but whats weird is that 2-3 times in week, at nights, game becomes perfect, everything becomes perfect sudenly( i even noticed it once while doing some stuff because my monitor just sudenly became brighter , like someone pressed button and it became 20% brigther). I really cant explain this weird thing everyone is experiencing..
More important what he, as "expert", thinks about it?