To the same extension cord as pc and monitor with router plugged.Thatweirdinputlag wrote: β14 Aug 2022, 08:04So you connect a flat iron to the same circuit as your PC & monitor? I don't understand Russlan, couldn't get what the video was saying. I remember reading something about how induction heaters help in reducing harmonics of the 3rd and the 9th on the neutral line. Those harmonics of which are mainly caused by SMPS "Switching Mode Power Supplies" that our PC's and monitor's and practically everything we own now have.gadpaw wrote: β12 Aug 2022, 03:26With flat-iron something changes, it is connected to an extension cord
together with a computer and a monitor.
But this -> active energy
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[Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag
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Would something like this help with harmonics on single phase current ?
http://sikes-elec.com/Single-phase-harm ... s-10A.html
They also have passive filters : http://filter.sikes-elec.com/filter/Harmonic-Filter
And all sorts of different filters : http://filter.sikes-elec.com/filter
http://sikes-elec.com/Single-phase-harm ... s-10A.html
They also have passive filters : http://filter.sikes-elec.com/filter/Harmonic-Filter
And all sorts of different filters : http://filter.sikes-elec.com/filter
Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag
Why not measure it by some company with professional meter first if you suspect harmonics instead of throwing money first at something?
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unfortunately we don't have a dedicated electrician here, if you want to pursue this, do it at your own accord. That said, I have absolutely no idea whether this will help or not. The filters in general do help mitigating some of the harmonics found in AC lines, yet i never heard of someone installing a filter that fixed his lag.wadge wrote: β14 Aug 2022, 09:00Would something like this help with harmonics on single phase current ?
http://sikes-elec.com/Single-phase-harm ... s-10A.html
They also have passive filters : http://filter.sikes-elec.com/filter/Harmonic-Filter
And all sorts of different filters : http://filter.sikes-elec.com/filter
These types of measurements are often quite expansive, and time consuming. Harmonic distortions are not a hit or miss, they fluctuate, and they vary in their timing. Any sort of measuring equipment should be installed and left for at least 4-7 days "with the inclusion of a weekend day", sometimes buying the filter might literally be cheaper than calling for support.
You might be able to trick the power company to come and do a site visit by telling them your equipment is failing rather rapidly and that you're suspecting something's wrong with the electricity. An actual site visit like that shouldn't cost a thing since it's the power comapany's job to keep THD within a tolerable limit specified by the government.
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What is expensive? Every POCO should have an option for its customers to check the quality of power delivered to your flat/house if there are any concerns. For PQ-Box connected for 18 days I paid 30 euro and I had all measurements which were included in requirements and nothing beyond it. It means harmonics, power factor, voltage fluctuations, frequency fluctuations etc.Thatweirdinputlag wrote: β14 Aug 2022, 17:24wadge wrote: β14 Aug 2022, 09:00Would something like this help with harmonics on single phase current ?
These types of measurements are often quite expansive, and time consuming. Harmonic distortions are not a hit or miss, they fluctuate, and they vary in their timing. Any sort of measuring equipment should be installed and left for at least 4-7 days "with the inclusion of a weekend day", sometimes buying the filter might literally be cheaper than calling for support.
You might be able to trick the power company to come and do a site visit by telling them your equipment is failing rather rapidly and that you're suspecting something's wrong with the electricity. An actual site visit like that shouldn't cost a thing since it's the power comapany's job to keep THD within a tolerable limit specified by the government.
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Yes, if done through the power company "hence my 2nd paragraph, please read!". After 3 calls to my power company a while back, they sent a guy that "supposedly" did some tests "without even contacting me when he arrived" and then reported that the electricity is working in order, and when I asked them to give me the person's number so I can ask him more details they said I can't contact him directly and that my electricity has no problems in it. Thats when I found a private company that works on rather big projects and asked them if they can do a small thing like that, the engineer said and i quote said; "It will cost you a lot, even if I was free to do it, it'll take up to a week of testing and multiple visits, which would costs about 250-280jds "equivalent to $400" not to mention that even finding a problem with your line might not be fixable through us and you'd still have to go back to your power company, unless you want to invest in filters or transformers".a_c_r_e_a_l wrote: β14 Aug 2022, 19:52What is expensive? Every POCO should have an option for its customers to check the quality of power delivered to your flat/house if there are any concerns. For PQ-Box connected for 18 days I paid 30 euro and I had all measurements which were included in requirements and nothing beyond it. It means harmonics, power factor, voltage fluctuations, frequency fluctuations etc.Thatweirdinputlag wrote: β14 Aug 2022, 17:24wadge wrote: β14 Aug 2022, 09:00Would something like this help with harmonics on single phase current ?
These types of measurements are often quite expansive, and time consuming. Harmonic distortions are not a hit or miss, they fluctuate, and they vary in their timing. Any sort of measuring equipment should be installed and left for at least 4-7 days "with the inclusion of a weekend day", sometimes buying the filter might literally be cheaper than calling for support.
You might be able to trick the power company to come and do a site visit by telling them your equipment is failing rather rapidly and that you're suspecting something's wrong with the electricity. An actual site visit like that shouldn't cost a thing since it's the power comapany's job to keep THD within a tolerable limit specified by the government.
What were the results of your line testing?
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that looks good, not much knowledge into properly reading this though. Unless the tolerant level is already set too high for PC's. No idea.
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag
Test results are only an approximate canary in a coal mine and is no guarantee, alas. Manufacturing variances can also mean a different power supply will test very different.
The tough part for real world computer usage -- is one computer may be very resistant to power issues at 2x accepted limits, while other falls apart at 1/10th accepted limited. So your virtual "green line" may not be the same as the reviewers' green line. And your problem may (frequently) very well end up being 100% unrelated to electricity/interference-related issues.
This is all testing crapshoot due to the invisibleness of all of this, to the average end user. Just wanted to add that caveat.
The tough part for real world computer usage -- is one computer may be very resistant to power issues at 2x accepted limits, while other falls apart at 1/10th accepted limited. So your virtual "green line" may not be the same as the reviewers' green line. And your problem may (frequently) very well end up being 100% unrelated to electricity/interference-related issues.
This is all testing crapshoot due to the invisibleness of all of this, to the average end user. Just wanted to add that caveat.
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