Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag
Posted: 27 Dec 2021, 16:21
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You perfectly described my experience from 2016-2020 with CS. I changed my playstyle so I would only stay in bait-ish, 100% sure angles because I knew if I fair 1v1 peeked him I would most likely get shot at before I even reacted.Kalppus wrote: ↑22 Dec 2021, 08:25Tell me I am not crazy. I hope you have time to read this and give your confirm and opinion about this. And possibly tell, if this what I am doing is the right choise and should I try something else still and maybe there is things I have not taken to my observation. I am really desperate and getting eaten day by day because of this. So could you read this and perhaps help me even tho I probably know already the problem, but I think you can just confirm this.
So let me begin. I am guy from Finland. I am very competitive player of cs, and I believe I could get somewhere in this game, But unfortunately there came problems. I had to start play platform called FACEIT to proceed in this game. Because when I played MM or popflash matches and so on I used to get like 40 kills in global elite MM, So I believed I could be some kind of "older" talent in this game and I could get somewhere with this talent (at least I want to fulfill my dream and see where it takes me, even tho it maybe never takes me that high). I have played 6000hrs cs and it feels like life to me.
So anyway now, when I had to start play cs in faceit there came problem. To play faceit you must use their anticheat called "faceit anti-cheat". Well when I lauch my cs while my profile is logged into the anticheat I get so terrible and awful input lag, it is just like you already know, because you talk in here about it. Mouse is delayed in the game, actions, movement everything is very delayed and sluggish, hitreg is huge problem and bullets are travelling very weirdly. Also when I am seeing enemy or enemy hit me the game kinda microfreezes or stutters very badly in these events. As you can guess now my gameplay is impossible with these problems. I have managed to get into 2600 elo in faceit, but I have to play very weirdly, because I know i lose my duels almost everytime, if I am trying to peek the enemy, because of these problems, so my gameplay is basically just going first as a bait or holding 100% sure angles where I can kill enemy. I can not even imagine what could i achieve, if this stupid game worked.
and now to make sure for you I am not some random stupid kid who thinks this "could" be one problem option that I am having. I tell you I am 100% sure this is it. I have had this year and like I said this problem is eating my day by day. So ofc I have done many things and some research.
I can begin what I have tried to fix this input lag. And oh firstly, yeah there is some same kind of lags in other games too but not as bad as "cs with faceit anitcheat on". And my cs is working almost fine with other anticheats and its working fine by itself, but I only got this problem with faceit anticheat, I know it might sound for some of you that ah its the anticheat interfacting with some other programs then, but noo noo, its not that. I have had faceit support team over my computer checking things and giving some scripts and different versions of AC so it could fix, but there is no difference. It is like the faceit anticheat just changes the game so much like it affected to the electricity somehow.
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I reached 3.5k with this problem. It's easy when you play premade and play extra safe angles and never engage in a fair duel.a_c_r_e_a_l wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 21:171. 2600 elo
2. ingame problems
choose one
If electricity had to be the issue, then you would never reach 10 lvl on faceit. Anyway good luck in fixing it.
U would be 1300 elo with my input lagNJb wrote: ↑28 Dec 2021, 07:41You perfectly described my experience from 2016-2020 with CS. I changed my playstyle so I would only stay in bait-ish, 100% sure angles because I knew if I fair 1v1 peeked him I would most likely get shot at before I even reacted.Kalppus wrote: ↑22 Dec 2021, 08:25Tell me I am not crazy. I hope you have time to read this and give your confirm and opinion about this. And possibly tell, if this what I am doing is the right choise and should I try something else still and maybe there is things I have not taken to my observation. I am really desperate and getting eaten day by day because of this. So could you read this and perhaps help me even tho I probably know already the problem, but I think you can just confirm this.
So let me begin. I am guy from Finland. I am very competitive player of cs, and I believe I could get somewhere in this game, But unfortunately there came problems. I had to start play platform called FACEIT to proceed in this game. Because when I played MM or popflash matches and so on I used to get like 40 kills in global elite MM, So I believed I could be some kind of "older" talent in this game and I could get somewhere with this talent (at least I want to fulfill my dream and see where it takes me, even tho it maybe never takes me that high). I have played 6000hrs cs and it feels like life to me.
So anyway now, when I had to start play cs in faceit there came problem. To play faceit you must use their anticheat called "faceit anti-cheat". Well when I lauch my cs while my profile is logged into the anticheat I get so terrible and awful input lag, it is just like you already know, because you talk in here about it. Mouse is delayed in the game, actions, movement everything is very delayed and sluggish, hitreg is huge problem and bullets are travelling very weirdly. Also when I am seeing enemy or enemy hit me the game kinda microfreezes or stutters very badly in these events. As you can guess now my gameplay is impossible with these problems. I have managed to get into 2600 elo in faceit, but I have to play very weirdly, because I know i lose my duels almost everytime, if I am trying to peek the enemy, because of these problems, so my gameplay is basically just going first as a bait or holding 100% sure angles where I can kill enemy. I can not even imagine what could i achieve, if this stupid game worked.
and now to make sure for you I am not some random stupid kid who thinks this "could" be one problem option that I am having. I tell you I am 100% sure this is it. I have had this year and like I said this problem is eating my day by day. So ofc I have done many things and some research.
I can begin what I have tried to fix this input lag. And oh firstly, yeah there is some same kind of lags in other games too but not as bad as "cs with faceit anitcheat on". And my cs is working almost fine with other anticheats and its working fine by itself, but I only got this problem with faceit anticheat, I know it might sound for some of you that ah its the anticheat interfacting with some other programs then, but noo noo, its not that. I have had faceit support team over my computer checking things and giving some scripts and different versions of AC so it could fix, but there is no difference. It is like the faceit anticheat just changes the game so much like it affected to the electricity somehow.
...
You should note that, under normal circumstances and without any custom tweaks, the game should run without these hic-ups. The way you presented your problem definetely confirms it's display/input delay coming from an external source.
I reached 3.5k with this problem. It's easy when you play premade and play extra safe angles and never engage in a fair duel.a_c_r_e_a_l wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 21:171. 2600 elo
2. ingame problems
choose one
If electricity had to be the issue, then you would never reach 10 lvl on faceit. Anyway good luck in fixing it.
Nah it mostly depends on when your problems came in. 1500 elo player who unfortunately discovered input lag on his setup will struggle to play on his 1500 avg elo. In other hand some 3k elo player will still be able to play on his avg elo but will lose duels like everyone mentioned above. Personally I did have 2900 elo at the beginning like in 2018 when I found input lag on my PC, and I still have around 3k elo after 3 years of struggling with input lag. However, I changed my playstyle like someone said above, and now I can easily lost a 1v1 duel with some 2k elo avg player so This is very depressing honestlyassombrosso wrote: ↑28 Dec 2021, 08:37U would be 1300 elo with my input lagNJb wrote: ↑28 Dec 2021, 07:41You perfectly described my experience from 2016-2020 with CS. I changed my playstyle so I would only stay in bait-ish, 100% sure angles because I knew if I fair 1v1 peeked him I would most likely get shot at before I even reacted.Kalppus wrote: ↑22 Dec 2021, 08:25Tell me I am not crazy. I hope you have time to read this and give your confirm and opinion about this. And possibly tell, if this what I am doing is the right choise and should I try something else still and maybe there is things I have not taken to my observation. I am really desperate and getting eaten day by day because of this. So could you read this and perhaps help me even tho I probably know already the problem, but I think you can just confirm this.
So let me begin. I am guy from Finland. I am very competitive player of cs, and I believe I could get somewhere in this game, But unfortunately there came problems. I had to start play platform called FACEIT to proceed in this game. Because when I played MM or popflash matches and so on I used to get like 40 kills in global elite MM, So I believed I could be some kind of "older" talent in this game and I could get somewhere with this talent (at least I want to fulfill my dream and see where it takes me, even tho it maybe never takes me that high). I have played 6000hrs cs and it feels like life to me.
So anyway now, when I had to start play cs in faceit there came problem. To play faceit you must use their anticheat called "faceit anti-cheat". Well when I lauch my cs while my profile is logged into the anticheat I get so terrible and awful input lag, it is just like you already know, because you talk in here about it. Mouse is delayed in the game, actions, movement everything is very delayed and sluggish, hitreg is huge problem and bullets are travelling very weirdly. Also when I am seeing enemy or enemy hit me the game kinda microfreezes or stutters very badly in these events. As you can guess now my gameplay is impossible with these problems. I have managed to get into 2600 elo in faceit, but I have to play very weirdly, because I know i lose my duels almost everytime, if I am trying to peek the enemy, because of these problems, so my gameplay is basically just going first as a bait or holding 100% sure angles where I can kill enemy. I can not even imagine what could i achieve, if this stupid game worked.
and now to make sure for you I am not some random stupid kid who thinks this "could" be one problem option that I am having. I tell you I am 100% sure this is it. I have had this year and like I said this problem is eating my day by day. So ofc I have done many things and some research.
I can begin what I have tried to fix this input lag. And oh firstly, yeah there is some same kind of lags in other games too but not as bad as "cs with faceit anitcheat on". And my cs is working almost fine with other anticheats and its working fine by itself, but I only got this problem with faceit anticheat, I know it might sound for some of you that ah its the anticheat interfacting with some other programs then, but noo noo, its not that. I have had faceit support team over my computer checking things and giving some scripts and different versions of AC so it could fix, but there is no difference. It is like the faceit anticheat just changes the game so much like it affected to the electricity somehow.
...
You should note that, under normal circumstances and without any custom tweaks, the game should run without these hic-ups. The way you presented your problem definetely confirms it's display/input delay coming from an external source.
I reached 3.5k with this problem. It's easy when you play premade and play extra safe angles and never engage in a fair duel.a_c_r_e_a_l wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 21:171. 2600 elo
2. ingame problems
choose one
If electricity had to be the issue, then you would never reach 10 lvl on faceit. Anyway good luck in fixing it.
Yea good point, i see myself doing just good enough to keep up if i played in a stack of level 10 vs level 10 team, but like u said, u have to play with the team to win every round, u have to rely alot on calls/util and playing very safe anglea. Most of the impact will be on ct side because u wait for them to push but entry fragging, clutching a round with a rifle and winning eco rounds with deagle will be almost impossible and this is why its not fun and depressing. Look at streamers like d0cc, he plays aggressive every game and gets away with alot of "bad" decisions because he has zero lag, he knows he can get away with it. This is why its so fun for them and very boring for usWayzer wrote: ↑28 Dec 2021, 12:32Nah it mostly depends on when your problems came in. 1500 elo player who unfortunately discovered input lag on his setup will struggle to play on his 1500 avg elo. In other hand some 3k elo player will still be able to play on his avg elo but will lose duels like everyone mentioned above. Personally I did have 2900 elo at the beginning like in 2018 when I found input lag on my PC, and I still have around 3k elo after 3 years of struggling with input lag. However, I changed my playstyle like someone said above, and now I can easily lost a 1v1 duel with some 2k elo avg player so This is very depressing honestlyassombrosso wrote: ↑28 Dec 2021, 08:37U would be 1300 elo with my input lagNJb wrote: ↑28 Dec 2021, 07:41You perfectly described my experience from 2016-2020 with CS. I changed my playstyle so I would only stay in bait-ish, 100% sure angles because I knew if I fair 1v1 peeked him I would most likely get shot at before I even reacted.Kalppus wrote: ↑22 Dec 2021, 08:25Tell me I am not crazy. I hope you have time to read this and give your confirm and opinion about this. And possibly tell, if this what I am doing is the right choise and should I try something else still and maybe there is things I have not taken to my observation. I am really desperate and getting eaten day by day because of this. So could you read this and perhaps help me even tho I probably know already the problem, but I think you can just confirm this.
So let me begin. I am guy from Finland. I am very competitive player of cs, and I believe I could get somewhere in this game, But unfortunately there came problems. I had to start play platform called FACEIT to proceed in this game. Because when I played MM or popflash matches and so on I used to get like 40 kills in global elite MM, So I believed I could be some kind of "older" talent in this game and I could get somewhere with this talent (at least I want to fulfill my dream and see where it takes me, even tho it maybe never takes me that high). I have played 6000hrs cs and it feels like life to me.
So anyway now, when I had to start play cs in faceit there came problem. To play faceit you must use their anticheat called "faceit anti-cheat". Well when I lauch my cs while my profile is logged into the anticheat I get so terrible and awful input lag, it is just like you already know, because you talk in here about it. Mouse is delayed in the game, actions, movement everything is very delayed and sluggish, hitreg is huge problem and bullets are travelling very weirdly. Also when I am seeing enemy or enemy hit me the game kinda microfreezes or stutters very badly in these events. As you can guess now my gameplay is impossible with these problems. I have managed to get into 2600 elo in faceit, but I have to play very weirdly, because I know i lose my duels almost everytime, if I am trying to peek the enemy, because of these problems, so my gameplay is basically just going first as a bait or holding 100% sure angles where I can kill enemy. I can not even imagine what could i achieve, if this stupid game worked.
and now to make sure for you I am not some random stupid kid who thinks this "could" be one problem option that I am having. I tell you I am 100% sure this is it. I have had this year and like I said this problem is eating my day by day. So ofc I have done many things and some research.
I can begin what I have tried to fix this input lag. And oh firstly, yeah there is some same kind of lags in other games too but not as bad as "cs with faceit anitcheat on". And my cs is working almost fine with other anticheats and its working fine by itself, but I only got this problem with faceit anticheat, I know it might sound for some of you that ah its the anticheat interfacting with some other programs then, but noo noo, its not that. I have had faceit support team over my computer checking things and giving some scripts and different versions of AC so it could fix, but there is no difference. It is like the faceit anticheat just changes the game so much like it affected to the electricity somehow.
...
You should note that, under normal circumstances and without any custom tweaks, the game should run without these hic-ups. The way you presented your problem definetely confirms it's display/input delay coming from an external source.
I reached 3.5k with this problem. It's easy when you play premade and play extra safe angles and never engage in a fair duel.a_c_r_e_a_l wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 21:171. 2600 elo
2. ingame problems
choose one
If electricity had to be the issue, then you would never reach 10 lvl on faceit. Anyway good luck in fixing it.
Oh yeah man absolutely true. This is so frustrating actually... I can't even enjoy competetive CS anymore, I'm playing like not me idk how to say it, but this conflict in your head that you played good before and used to win duels, do some clutches, rare insane stuff etc., and now you're literally like partially disabled, it's so distressing. About streamers ikr, especially about "bad" decisions, lmao I cant even allow myself bad decisions cuz I'll die instantly. This is so true, I play not like passive but more on 100% kills, 100% peeks, 100% angles etc. On the other hand some dummy 0.59 KR players can just ran through the smoke do some kills and I cant punish them for that. I had good aim back in the day actually, and as you said before about bad decisions, 60% of my playstyle was just doin some dumb shit in pugs, and get away with kills cuz my aim compensated my bad/dumb decisions. Now I'm more like a passive robot-like angle holder. Kinda sad tho if u ask me xdassombrosso wrote: ↑29 Dec 2021, 17:38Yea good point, i see myself doing just good enough to keep up if i played in a stack of level 10 vs level 10 team, but like u said, u have to play with the team to win every round, u have to rely alot on calls/util and playing very safe anglea. Most of the impact will be on ct side because u wait for them to push but entry fragging, clutching a round with a rifle and winning eco rounds with deagle will be almost impossible and this is why its not fun and depressing. Look at streamers like d0cc, he plays aggressive every game and gets away with alot of "bad" decisions because he has zero lag, he knows he can get away with it. This is why its so fun for them and very boring for usWayzer wrote: ↑28 Dec 2021, 12:32Nah it mostly depends on when your problems came in. 1500 elo player who unfortunately discovered input lag on his setup will struggle to play on his 1500 avg elo. In other hand some 3k elo player will still be able to play on his avg elo but will lose duels like everyone mentioned above. Personally I did have 2900 elo at the beginning like in 2018 when I found input lag on my PC, and I still have around 3k elo after 3 years of struggling with input lag. However, I changed my playstyle like someone said above, and now I can easily lost a 1v1 duel with some 2k elo avg player so This is very depressing honestlyassombrosso wrote: ↑28 Dec 2021, 08:37U would be 1300 elo with my input lagNJb wrote: ↑28 Dec 2021, 07:41
You perfectly described my experience from 2016-2020 with CS. I changed my playstyle so I would only stay in bait-ish, 100% sure angles because I knew if I fair 1v1 peeked him I would most likely get shot at before I even reacted.
You should note that, under normal circumstances and without any custom tweaks, the game should run without these hic-ups. The way you presented your problem definetely confirms it's display/input delay coming from an external source.
I reached 3.5k with this problem. It's easy when you play premade and play extra safe angles and never engage in a fair duel.