EMI / Bad Electricity 5 years journey (I 'fixed' it)

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EMI / Bad Electricity 5 years journey (I 'fixed' it)

Post by NJb » 19 Sep 2021, 11:58

I have compiled a full report of my findings about the electricity causing 'input lag'. I advise you to read it all to get a full understanding of HOW this problem affects not only PC's, but other electronics as well including TVs, smartphones, peripherals like mice/keyboards/headphones and whatnot. The cause itself is still unknown, but you can get a generally good idea of what pieces are 'affected' and the only way (so far) to entirely make this problem go away.
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This shit absolutely sucks. It is by far the worst thing that's happened to me. Literally lost 5-6 years of my life, probably even more because of the stress caused by this. But it's over now, for me at least. Gonna make a TLDR but I strongly advise you to read it all

TLDR: Solved the problem. However I had to move out (it is the only solution as of today, for everyone) AND change my entire computer INCLUDING !!! PERIPHERALS !!! (MOUSE, KEYBOARD, etc) and the monitor (not really sure if it was affected but I suspect it)

The long version: Well I have to start by saying that weirdly I did not have this problem back when I was a kid, I'm absolutely confident of this. I vividly remember the monitor colors, the image quality in general, the absolutely beautiful (and loud) sound of 50$ headphones back in the day, the very responsive mouse on a shitty 60hz monitor, but moreso I remember being able to type very quickly and the letters showing up on the screen fast and smooth. In fact, I remember this very detail the most out of all of them. Press a key, it immediately shows up. I used this to evolve my leet typing skills and brag to all my friends. Ok so why am I telling you this? It's because I distinctly remember NOT having this problem and i'm SURE that prior to 2014 this shit didn't exist for me. I asked my dad a while ago what could have possibly happened in the apartment building that could cause such a mess. He doesn't remember anything notable, but he said that around 2014 more and more people started installing water heaters in their home (back then most of us got hot water directly from the distributor). For me, that is highly irrelevant because I believe it isn't causative, and it doesn't give me anything to go on how to fix the root of this problem this, but maybe it does for some of you. Also it is very important to note that NOT ONLY it affects the PC, but I noticed it affects the TV, especially if you watch something with a high tempo like sports. I used the same TV later at my sister's apartment with the same TV cable provider, the difference is astonishing, what's funny is that it was my mom that said that it looks "better" there. Not only did it look better but the sound was muuuuch more clearer. Also, my smartphone: my friend had the same phone which he bought only 2 weeks earlier than me, his runs waaaaaaaaaaaay better than mine (smoother, better animations, faster processing), we're talking about a Galaxy S9 Plus. I even compared it once side by side with the same youtube 1080p 60fps video running in the background. I'm tech savvy so don't say stuff like "maybe it was the apps slowing it down" No, trust me, it wasn't. I only had essential apps & maybe netflix on there while my friend's phone was 1gb away from being full.

I was (and still am, to some extent) a guy who loved competitive FPS games more than anything else, however I did not become fully aware of the problem being outside of my computer until late 2017. From time to time I would go to friends' house and play on their computers and just be amazed by the sheer smoothness of the gameplay. I always wondered "Well how is this so smooth? The PC is certainly worse than the one I have home" but I kinda always dismissed it as some kind of placebo. I put thousands of hours into CS:GO, even got as far as being in a team ranked 40 on HLTV (cs players will know what im talking about). So yeah, I was pretty decent. Decent, but I could never evolve past that point due to this handicap. It was fucking devastating, knowing that you're playing (and beating) guys that most certainly don't have this problem, their pc's running smoothly while yours was extremely bipolar, couldn't decide between "high input lag" or "extremely high input lag".

Thousands of euros later, in 2017 I found some nvidia thread talking about input lag and electricity being related. As most of you have, I dismissed it and laughed saying stuff like lol how crazy are these guys? Ironic, yeah. I started by stupidly changing my PSU. Immediately made a difference but as you probably guessed, didn't last long. Changed my internet provider, twice. "OMG its fixed now" no it isn't. Changed my outlet. Nada. Even made an entirely new circuit from the breaker. Nothing. I paid some electric company to come check my apartment, multiple times. "Yeah, there's nothing wrong, it's perfectly fine" they all said. Even made a circuit separate from the neighbors to the main building breaker.

Don't even let me mention the amount of software-sided tweaks like bios and windows optimizations, all "having an effect" until 5 mins later when either it started acting up again or the placebo ended. In fact, I think the software debugging phase was longer than the hardware & electrical replacing one, I turned Windows inside out, know every single bit of tweak you can make to your PC, I still have nightmares with the clock timer from time to time. My suspicion of it being electrical, or more precisely, external (as in, not necessarily the PC's fault) was confirmed when I took my PC to a friend's house and there it ran well. It ran well, I could definetely tell, but I'm only saying 'well' because I still had that lingering feeling that it's not perfect because when he had his PC plugged in, it was noticeably smoother. I just said it's a light placebo. Anyway

In 2019 an e-sports cafe / internet / gaming lounge or whatever you wanna call it opened up in my city. Basically a place with ~20-25 gaming pc's where you go to play. I knew the owner so I was there very often, like 4 times a week. My gameplay experience there was amazing, but something was still off. The game was still weird and enemies were still only a bit faster than me and my bullets had a brain of their own. I could still play very well, but not to my maximum. Had around ~3900-4000 elo that time (top 100 EU on faceit). Many many months later I go there to meet & play with a friend who was in a match already, he had to go to the bathroom and he told me to play a few rounds. I put my hand on the mouse and WTF? this feels amazing, what settings did he change? I played on that exact PC just 3 days ago. When he comes back he says he hasn't made any tweaks to nvidia or to the game, which confused the fuck out of me. A few weeks later, when I was in a party of 5 (basically playing side by side) looking left and right and seeing their games being waaaaaaay smoother than mine I said to a friend: let's switch places, don't ask why just let's switch. Yeah, as you can guess that PC ran perfectly while the one I was previously on was terrible, he was complaining the entire match "man this is so laggy what did u do?" Only THEN it clicked. Almost all the times I went there I brought my mouse and keyboard from home.

I immediately tested this, along with my friends to absolutely discard the possibility of it being a placebo. I put my mouse and keyboard in, the game becomes shit in minutes, not only the game but it gives the monitor a weird, choppy look as if you had negative anti-aliasing, maybe some of you know what I'm talking about. Oh and the sound becomes lightly... muffled? I don't know what the word is, but the sound quality (and loudness) decreases. I plug them out, put the m&k that was there by default. Mouse lags for 2 seconds, but the feeling subsides and it's back to perfect. You heard it right! THE MOUSE AND KEYBOARD (and possibly the headphones and whatever was inserted in my pc from home) WERE MAKING OTHER PC'S, PERFECTLY FINE PC'S WITH GOOD ELECTRICITY, LAG !!! This discovery changed everything for me. I bought a mouse that I would never plug in at home, only at the gaming lounge and used the keyboard that was there. Never had one more input lag problem for as long as I was there.

Side notes: All the PC components I have used in the past were high-end. Always the newest i7's, modular gold/platinum/whatever rated PSUs, flagship motherboards, 200$ keyboards, 200$ headphones, and all the mice I have used since 2016 have been wireless. Namely: Logitech G900, Logitech G305, Logitech G903, Logitech G Pro Wireless, and lately Razer Viper Ultimate.

However, the problems were far from over for me. I moved out in 2019 for a few months. The electricity in that apartment was fine. But something was still off. I used different peripherals and monitor but didn't change the PC. Enemies were still extremely fast, tracking was off; looking at demos I could see that I clearly had a small delay, one that other players didn't. Don't get me wrong, it was hundreds of times better than it was at home, but it wasn't perfect. I borrow my friend's PC for a week and his pc was running as a normal PC should. His PC was kinda old and I had ~150-200FPS in CS (which is on the lower side) BUT it was extremely responsive. The game was stuttering from time to time due to the cpu reaching high temps (shitty cooler) but it was MILLIONS of times more responsive than my PC which had 500-600FPS. Week ends, I give his PC back and go back to my buggy machine, spend a few more weeks and $$$ changing pc parts to no avail. I could never get that perfect feeling. I go back home and stay there for one more summer and fall, then move out again for a semester. That apartment had bad electricity, almost even worse than the one I had home. When you turned off the lights, the TV signal would screw up and make the screen flicker for a quarter of a second. Didn't notice it when I moved because I was in a rush and didn't think this problem was widespread. PC was running just as bad as at home. I was in hell again. And worse: I used the "clean" mouse & whatever other peripherals I had in that house as well as the newer PC components that I just bought half a year ago.



Surprised I never saw a post about this, but let's summarize: Bad electricity ruins mice/keyboards/headsets as well as some specific (or all, but I doubt it) PC components. I'm gonna call the affected elements 'dirty' and the ones that are fine 'clean'. There was some guy from Brazil saying stuff like he went to LANs with his stuff (not the computer) and the problem was still persisting. He wasn't bullshitting at all, it's 100% true. You'd sound like an idiot normally if you'd say this but it's absolutely, one hundo percent genuine. Everything that you plugged in a PC that was plugged in an outlet whose circuit was 'dirty' is subject to this cancer. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't! This is why it's extremely hard to even get help from someone that is well informed and very proficient in the 'electrical' category. If I'd read this a few years ago I would never believe a word of it. And no one will take this seriously. And why would they? It's something that cannot be measured/quantifiable, we have tried countless programs and stuff like multimeters and whatnot. I strongly believe that every measurement that you guys have correlated with this problem is purely anectodal, no offense. Normal means cannot assess this.

PCs or peripherals ruined by electricity won't 'recover', however they are a lot better in a 'clean' environment (i.e. clean electricity), but not perfect, it's not viable for high-end competitive gaming. Unfortunately I never got to the bottom of which PC components (if not all) are permanently affected by electricity. I also found out that this problem is not uncommon here, I found at least 3 guys whose houses I've been to and personally confirmed that they have the electricity problem. One of them is a friend of mine who also has a mouse that exhibits the 'dirty mouse' symptoms: whenever he plugs that mouse in a 'clean' pc (i.e. gaming lounge PCs) it starts with the weird symptoms. There were other guys as well, but their problems lied in bad windows optimizations/bad temps. Yeah, here everyone and their mother is playing CS or at least some kind of competitive online game, so I have a lot of friends who are gamers. Come to think of it, I think A LOT of people worldwide have this problem but they don't know it exists because they've never played on a well-functioning PC to see what perfect conditions are like. Which is pretty sad to be honest.

Bottom line: Moving out to a 'clean' house won't solve your problems 100%. You have to buy an entirely new PC, peripherals (probably including monitor as well) and, to be safe, any and every auxiliary cable like ethernet and power cable (PSU and monitor). Frequency/Voltage is irrelevant. This problem has been reported from the US all the way to the other side of the world in Japan/Australia. 230V, 120V, 50hz 60hz 10000hz it doesnt matter it's all the same so the problem is somewhere else. People have claimed that buying a Furman conditioner fully fixes the problem which I highly doubt because it doesn't fix the components already 'infested'. Ferrites or whatever they're called won't help. Neither will turning off Wi-Fi or whatnot. And most of all STOP SEARCHING FOR A SOFTWARE-RELATED SOLUTION. TWEAKING THAT WINDOWS/BIOS SETTING WON'T FIX YOUR PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM LIES OUTSIDE OF YOUR COMPUTER!!! Yes, some things MAY make a difference but it's all either temporary or placebo. For the love of god and for your sake, stop spending so much time and money searching for a solution in a place where hundreds of people have searched extensively MANY years before you because it will not help. Wait a few weeks before claiming "OMG SOLUTION!!11"

P.P.S. Everything I said I believe to be 100% true, there are no doubts and my credibility stands in the fact that (apparently) I'm the only guy here with access to dozens of PCs close to home that I can easily access and troubleshoot. I also genuinely believe that while the problem may not manifest 100% the same for every guy that's affected, the root of the issue is identical for everyone. I gladly welcome counter-claims and I'm sorry for not giving you the answer you probably wanted.
Extra notes:


- I last moved 5 months ago and I bought my new PC including monitor and peripherals a week after I moved. Everything was flawless since then. No tweaks to either software or hardware has made any difference negatively.

- I have diagnosed this problem in detail with other people (gamers as well, can tell the difference of when there is or isn't input lag) IRL who've helped me throughout my journey. My findings are the observations of multiple people (who either had or didn't have this problem prior to me presenting it to them) who have come to the same conclusions.

- The most important things to highlight is the fact that moving will not 100% solve your problem. To fully understand how a gaming PC should run you'd have to play on a PC that's never been affected by 'bad current' that's also including the monitor & peripherals (mouse,keyboard,headphones, etc). This is very important because when I first moved, it took me about 2 months to notice that the games weren't running as well as on other PC's I've played who've never been connected to a bad source of electricity. Always dismissed it as placebo until I've had a friend come to play at my new, 'clean' house, he had identical specs at home including monitor and mouse.

- The less obvious (and the hardest to understand) is the fact that 'DIRTY' PERIPHERALS AFFECT 'CLEAN' PCs. It took me A FULL YEAR to confirm this idea. A year to find this out, given that I've spent the last 4-5 years troubleshooting this problem and was able to notice even the slightest change in responsiveness. The game while playing on a clean PC with dirty peripherals was pretty much 80-85% okay, I'd even say this is playable at a decent level. But it was the most difficult thing to realize because even after coming to terms with the idea that bad electricity can make your inputs bad, I'd refused the concept of something like a mouse breaking the order of clean, perfectly fine PCs. That was the last piece of the jigsaw for me, and haven't had the slightest input lag problem since finding this out. Also, clean PCs where dirty peripherals were plugged in don't have any permanent damage. It only works in reverse (dirty PCs ruining clean peripherals).

- I am very open minded with the fact that some of you have tried using their PCs somewhere else with good electricity and thinking that there it ran 'perfectly' however I have reason to believe that nobody affected by this will have their PCs function normally again. Tested this with 7 PCs IRL, 4 of them were mine and 3 were from three different people who've also been affected by this. Neither of them were able to function perfectly again. I have tried swapping out parts one at a time (bought PSU, returned it, bought CPU returned it) but never found the actual culprit so I can't pinpoint which (if not all) components were affected.


If you're affected by this, please try to raise awareness as much as you can because there will certainly be people who will move thinking they fixed it permanently then be in for a big surprise.
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Re: EMI / Bad Electricity 5 years journey (I 'fixed' it)

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 19 Sep 2021, 13:47

NJb wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 11:58
I have compiled a full report of my findings about the electricity causing 'input lag'. I advise you to read it all to get a full understanding of HOW this problem affects not only PC's, but other electronics as well including TVs, smartphones, peripherals like mice/keyboards/headphones and whatnot. The cause itself is still unknown, but you can get a generally good idea of what pieces are 'affected' and the only way (so far) to entirely make this problem go away.
Your tone of post suggests a long torturous journey, including many other forums who probably may have deleted your post as hogwash.

But around here, please tone your frustration down a smidge. Blur Busters is generally a safe place for legitimate electrical-related performance problems, so please keep things to the point, shorter, and to summaries, evidence-based and scientific-based. I don't like the tone of absolutisms towards the end of the message, but your problem is certainly a legitimate one that I know very well.

Out of a million people, it is common that only a fraction has electrical-related computer performance issues (it's definitely not 0, but it's definitely not a huge number). This causes a lot of unaware tech forums to, perhaps, delete your message.

But around here, Blur Busters is an incubator of outlier computer temporal problems (Hz, GtG, MPRT, latency, VRR, etc) that debunks disbelievers with research. Although this is not a Blur Busters specialty, I've personally encountered similar problems and it is something almost impossible to troubleshoot without a university degree (which is why usually only true circuit board engineers do this stuff)

University degrees and NVIDIA circuit board engineers pretty much know a lot about this -- but this topic is not well known in the hobbyist communities.

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Re: EMI / Bad Electricity 5 years journey (I 'fixed' it)

Post by NJb » 19 Sep 2021, 14:04

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 13:47
Out of a million people, it is common that only a fraction has electrical-related computer performance issues (it's definitely not 0, but it's definitely not a huge number). This causes a lot of unaware tech forums to, perhaps, delete your message.

But around here, Blur Busters is an incubator of outlier computer temporal problems (Hz, GtG, MPRT, latency, VRR, etc) that debunks disbelievers with research. Although this is not a Blur Busters specialty, I've personally encountered similar problems and it is something almost impossible to troubleshoot without a university degree (which is why usually only true circuit board engineers do this stuff)

University degrees and NVIDIA circuit board engineers pretty much know a lot about this -- but this topic is not well known in the hobbyist communities.

Anyway, welcome to Blur Busters.
Thanks. Apologies for the language, I tried to be as simple and informal as possible so most people will understand the experience and the problem itself. I understand how nonsensical it is even for the most experienced people on here. I didn't make this thread to convince others that this problem exists. Only reason I made this is because this forum has a lot of reach and maybe I could help some people on the off-chance someone with the same problem will see this before spending so much money and time as I and many others have.

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Re: EMI / Bad Electricity 5 years journey (I 'fixed' it)

Post by Jaketown » 19 Sep 2021, 15:13

About dirty peripherals, there is a thread where people complain about fast enemy players, while their players are slow in the game Fifa20 on PS4. And guy found a fix. There are Dualshock 1st and 2nd version (possibly 3rd). So when you plug in the Dualshock version 2, this happens. But when he plug in a Dualshock version 1, everything becomes normal. And someone have written that literally shifting gamepads during the match, you can see how to speed up opponents with Dualshock version 2 and slow down (becomes normal) when you plug in Dualshock version 1.
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Tehnicheskie- ... -p/8359513

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Re: EMI / Bad Electricity 5 years journey (I 'fixed' it)

Post by Mugabi » 19 Sep 2021, 16:04

fuck me im not ready to sell my pc and all peripherals but i do think ur right in this. maybe i sell my pc and get a new one as well as moving out to a new location? imagine i move out and new place has bad electricty ? who cares we only live once.

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Re: EMI / Bad Electricity 5 years journey (I 'fixed' it)

Post by NJb » 19 Sep 2021, 17:05

Mugabi wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 16:04
fuck me im not ready to sell my pc and all peripherals but i do think ur right in this. maybe i sell my pc and get a new one as well as moving out to a new location? imagine i move out and new place has bad electricty ? who cares we only live once.
Trying something is better than expecting this to magically vanish, but you're right. In fact, same thing happened to me as described in my post. I moved and still the electricity was bad.

My only way of semi-reliably testing whether a place (with the limited time you have when looking for rent) has bad electricity is just by turning on the TV and looking for the same symptoms you had back home. If the image is unusually smooth and the sound coming out of the TV speakers is crystal clear (unlike at your place) then chances are it's ok. As per the reports this problem is much more prevalent (but obviously not limited to) in post-communist countries (eastern europe, Russla). In my general area I'd guess this problem is much more widespread, maybe even to 15-20% of the total houses.

People have claimed that their PCs work "perfectly" from other 'clean' homes but I seriously doubt that (original post). So you pretty much have to sell your pc & periphs if you want perfect performance, but don't take my word for it. You should test it yourself once you move out.

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Re: EMI / Bad Electricity 5 years journey (I 'fixed' it)

Post by Mugabi » 19 Sep 2021, 23:57

NJb wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 17:05
Mugabi wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 16:04
fuck me im not ready to sell my pc and all peripherals but i do think ur right in this. maybe i sell my pc and get a new one as well as moving out to a new location? imagine i move out and new place has bad electricty ? who cares we only live once.
Trying something is better than expecting this to magically vanish, but you're right. In fact, same thing happened to me as described in my post. I moved and still the electricity was bad.

My only way of semi-reliably testing whether a place (with the limited time you have when looking for rent) has bad electricity is just by turning on the TV and looking for the same symptoms you had back home. If the image is unusually smooth and the sound coming out of the TV speakers is crystal clear (unlike at your place) then chances are it's ok. As per the reports this problem is much more prevalent (but obviously not limited to) in post-communist countries (eastern europe, Russla). In my general area I'd guess this problem is much more widespread, maybe even to 15-20% of the total houses.

People have claimed that their PCs work "perfectly" from other 'clean' homes but I seriously doubt that (original post). So you pretty much have to sell your pc & periphs if you want perfect performance, but don't take my word for it. You should test it yourself once you move out.
Yes indeed,the reason why i kinda agree with you is that i bought my pc last year with monitor etc (rtx 3070+5600x+240hz) and i had these issues,my apartment had tons of electricity issues,im talking about power cutting off once a month,when i turn microwave/toaster on/off the power cuts happen so it was definitely related to electricity. Well,i moved to this new place this year and the problem remained, I haven't experienced any obvious electrical problems since i moved here so i thought it might be hardware (could be) but your post gave me another idea. Ill try to sell my pc to a client who doesn't play competitive fps shooter (i will not be able to live with myself if i gave it ro someone who likes fps shooter and for him to waste his life on a stupid lagging machine without knowing what's going on). And would sell monitor+mouse+keyboard. Another thing that i read alot is that the steam accounts being infected , i read alotttt about people having stutter/lag in their steam accounts only and this is another can of worms, so what i will do since i already took the nuke approach (changing all pc and moving to new location) i will buy some legit steam accounts or make a new one and i will try them for 2+ weeks and im not gona change a single thing. If this dont fix it then ill probably commit some crimes like the joker

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Re: EMI / Bad Electricity 5 years journey (I 'fixed' it)

Post by NJb » 20 Sep 2021, 00:58

Mugabi wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 16:04
And would sell monitor+mouse+keyboard. Another thing that i read alot is that the steam accounts being infected , i read alotttt about people having stutter/lag in their steam accounts only and this is another can of worms, so what i will do since i already took the nuke approach (changing all pc and moving to new location) i will buy some legit steam accounts or make a new one and i will try them for 2+ weeks and im not gona change a single thing. If this dont fix it then ill probably commit some crimes like the joker
Ohh the infamous steam account lag. Yeah I know about it. This was so popular in HLTV forums back in the day. In fact there was a time where I used to exclusively play on a smurf account which eventually rose to 3.5k elo and ultimately got banned for multiple accs because the gameplay on my smurf was much smoother and better overall. That account was used both from dirty (home) and clean (internet cafe) PCs.

But I absolutely cannot attest to this because the feeling goes away very fast, and I found out that, despite not having clear evidence and good arguments, it's pretty much how badly the CS:GO config system was programmed from the beginning. I could get almost the same smurf-feeling on my main acc by deleting absolutely everything from the 730 folder, verifying game cache and making my config from 0 manually (no copy-paste in console). People have also claimed that full inventories can cause actual lags in game but I've never found enough evidence to support this. I can also not deny the fact that my smurf felt much smoother than my main acc (at least for a while) DESPITE having copy-pasted the entire config from one user folder to another.

All in all, I think this is pretty irrelevant as long as your PC isn't functioning properly, first you should get this sorted out then worry about the other small problems.

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Re: EMI / Bad Electricity 5 years journey (I 'fixed' it)

Post by Hotdog Man » 20 Sep 2021, 06:34

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 13:47
NJb wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 11:58
I have compiled a full report of my findings about the electricity causing 'input lag'. I advise you to read it all to get a full understanding of HOW this problem affects not only PC's, but other electronics as well including TVs, smartphones, peripherals like mice/keyboards/headphones and whatnot. The cause itself is still unknown, but you can get a generally good idea of what pieces are 'affected' and the only way (so far) to entirely make this problem go away.
Your tone of post suggests a long torturous journey, including many other forums who probably may have deleted your post as hogwash.

But around here, please tone your frustration down a smidge. Blur Busters is generally a safe place for legitimate electrical-related performance problems, so please keep things to the point, shorter, and to summaries, evidence-based and scientific-based. I don't like the tone of absolutisms towards the end of the message, but your problem is certainly a legitimate one that I know very well.

Out of a million people, it is common that only a fraction has electrical-related computer performance issues (it's definitely not 0, but it's definitely not a huge number). This causes a lot of unaware tech forums to, perhaps, delete your message.

But around here, Blur Busters is an incubator of outlier computer temporal problems (Hz, GtG, MPRT, latency, VRR, etc) that debunks disbelievers with research. Although this is not a Blur Busters specialty, I've personally encountered similar problems and it is something almost impossible to troubleshoot without a university degree (which is why usually only true circuit board engineers do this stuff)

University degrees and NVIDIA circuit board engineers pretty much know a lot about this -- but this topic is not well known in the hobbyist communities.

Anyway, welcome to Blur Busters.
Chief, regarding the opening post, do you agree that it's possible for peripherals (mouse, KB, monitor, etc.) to be "corrupted" by bad electricity and continue to perform badly even when moved to a better environment?

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Re: EMI / Bad Electricity 5 years journey (I 'fixed' it)

Post by MegaMelmek » 20 Sep 2021, 08:12

I cant move now thats for sure…. I am dealing with exactly same issue 9 months now. Everything begin with new build PC just some parts like SSD, NVME was from old PC .I try new PC then like an alienware whatever i will get new KB and mouse do you think monitor too?

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