Samsung QD OLED

High Hz on OLED produce excellent strobeless motion blur reduction with fast GtG pixel response. It is easier to tell apart 60Hz vs 120Hz vs 240Hz on OLED than LCD, and more visible to mainstream. Includes WOLED and QD-OLED displays.
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Samsung QD OLED

Post by lossofmercy » 05 Jan 2022, 14:25

https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertai ... -ces-2022/
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It's not just a research project. Samsung will sell a QD Display TV later this year, and Sony announced its own 2022 QD-OLED models on Tuesday.

I visited Samsung Display's campus in San Jose, California, to see the panels firsthand and compare their performance to two display alternatives, OLED and LCD boosted with local-dimming technology. Even though it was a Samsung-arranged comparison and not an instrumented test of all display quality attributes, I'd say Samsung has a real chance at unseating the image quality leader, OLED.

It'll all come at a cost though. QD OLED displays will occupy a premium segment of the market. If you can't afford an OLED TV from a company like LG or Sony today, you're unlikely to find a QD OLED-based TV any more palatable.

Samsung Display, the division of the South Korean giant that manufactures the new panels, has three QD Display panels: 55-inch and 65-inch options for 4K TVs and a 34-inch option for computer monitors at QHD+ (3,200x1,800-pixel) resolution. It sells them to other companies but didn't reveal in advance which companies will use the panels or whether TV powerhouse Samsung Electronics is on the list.

When it comes to QD OLED, Samsung is the only game in town right now. Even though it's an electronics colossus, expect QD OLED's higher costs to confine the technology to the premium market. And competitor LG has about six times the OLED manufacturing capacity as Samsung's QD OLED production, said Ross Young, founder of Display Supply Chain Consultants.

"Given the low volume, [QD OLED] will be an ever smaller niche" than OLED, Young said. "LCDs will remain the volume and value leader for more than five years."

If you care about image quality and are willing to pay, though, QD OLED will be worth a look.
Looks like a cool tech. It's particularly nice because samsung was the first one to adopt VRR in TVs, so it's likely they will keep that gaming focus for these monitors.
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Re: Samsung QD OLED

Post by jorimt » 05 Jan 2022, 14:41

lossofmercy wrote:
05 Jan 2022, 14:25
Earlier discussion on the same video is also here, FYI:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=9563&sid=9fe266f32 ... f61d9f94c6
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Re: Samsung QD OLED

Post by lossofmercy » 05 Jan 2022, 14:52

Ah, I missed it. I looked for it in the news section due to the fact that it's not out yet.

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Re: Samsung QD OLED

Post by jorimt » 05 Jan 2022, 15:39

lossofmercy wrote:
05 Jan 2022, 14:52
No worries; out of the two threads, yours is probably under the more fitting sub-forum. Again, just an FYI.
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Re: Samsung QD OLED

Post by jasswolf » 06 Jan 2022, 20:47

The way they've tuned the peak 100% brightness value is great news for longevity and SDR BFI potential. This seems to be a well thoughtout panel kit, and I look forward to seeing how it performs with BFI with respect to input lag.

Especially looking forward to the flat 16:9 version and how quickly this tech will accelerate to 240Hz and beyond.

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Post by life_at_1ms » 08 Jan 2022, 12:49

Can't wait for the QD OLEDs to come out! Particularly (non-curved) 27-32" @ 4k & for laptops.

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Post by Chief Blur Buster » 08 Jan 2022, 14:03

These are exciting. I can't wait to finally see OLED gaming monitors. I just hope that they can achieve subframe latency with OLED, something that they haven't normally been able to easily achieve.
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Post by jorimt » 08 Jan 2022, 15:15

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I just hope that they can achieve subframe latency with OLED, something that they haven't normally been able to easily achieve.
Yeah, that's something to watch for.

My CX can do under 10ms in game mode at 4k, which is excellent for a TV, but still subpar where the latest G-SYNC-capable LCD gaming monitors are concerned, which are usually closer to 0.5ms or under in processing latency (with GtG being the biggest indirect contributor).
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Re: Samsung QD OLED

Post by Discorz » 08 Jan 2022, 15:35

It should be achievable. C1 is around 0.5 ms, FO48U 0.9 ms and EP950 1 ms of processing lag. The rest is math I guess.
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Re: Samsung QD OLED

Post by jorimt » 08 Jan 2022, 16:47

Discorz wrote:
08 Jan 2022, 15:35
It should be achievable. C1 is around 0.5 ms, FO48U 0.9 ms and EP950 1 ms of processing lag. The rest is math I guess.
These OLEDs are effectively 0.1ms GtG equivalent, but the processing latency on the C1 in game mode at 4k is still over 5ms according to RTINGS review:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c1 ... st-results

Again, great for a TV (my CX is about 5ms at 4k as well), but still doesn't match the sub 1ms processing latency of some current-gen LCD gaming monitors.
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