PG27AQDP vs XL2586X

[soisoi]

For old school shooters. Such as Wolf: ET, RTCW, WarZone, Quake Live.

Is the 480 HZ really enough to eliminate blur as good as DYAC2?

[Inco^]

In this post I've basically answered this question: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14043&p=110214#p110214

I've tried the 480Hz OLED from Asus '(PG27AQDP), and went back to 540Hz from Asus after a week.
In an FPS game where you need to be both fast and precise, i.e. aiming accurately on fast moving enemies, the 540Hz TN was way superior to the 480Hz OLED, which must be thanks to motion blur reduction (ULMB2 in this case).
See my post here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12946&p=109400#p109400 where I describe my experience with the PG27AQDP as imagining the position of the enemy to shoot it, as opposed to actually shooting on what I see.

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I wanted to answer this exact same question, reason why I ordered the PG27AQDP. But I reverted back to PG248QP after a week (which is very similar to XL2586X).

[Boop]

For old school shooters. Such as Wolf: ET, RTCW, WarZone, Quake Live.

Is the 480 HZ really enough to eliminate blur as good as DYAC2?

I own the PG27AQDP and PG248QP. I see no reason to use the 540Hz TN anymore. I have no desire to use strobing at this high of framerate/refreshrate.

I went through 3 different PG248QP monitors and all of them looked terrible when ULMB2 was enabled in games that let you change the picmip to lower texture quality for competitive play. Maybe it was the screen coating on the PG248QP that caused the low quality textures to look like a screen door when in motion. I prefer the strobing on the Viewsonic XG2431.

Older shooters tested at high fps
Enemy Territory Legacy: 500fps hard cap
Quake Live: 250fps hard cap unless you modify value in memory using a hack.
Half-Life DM: 600fps cap. Higher values cause movement problems in online play.
Unreal Tournament 2004: 600fps cap. Higher values cause movement problems in online play.
Prey/Doom3: used lossless scaling app for frame generation 62 -> 250fps to avoid physics bugs. This has input lag but is fine for singleplayer games.
Quake 2: 1000fps hard cap
Quake World: 1000fps cap
Painkiller: 500fps cap. Higher values cause movement problems. Haven't tested online play just against bots with the PK++ CPL mod.
Halo Masterchief collection: uncapped
Serious Sam Fusion 2017: uncapped

Modern shooters tested at high fps
Counter-Strike 2: uncapped
Valorant: uncapped
Diabotical: uncapped
Overwatch 2: 600fps hard cap
Apex Legends: 300fps hard cap
Quake Champions: 300fps hard cap

I'm sure there's many more but those are the games I've tested/play consistently and prefer to use the 480Hz 1440p OLED over a 1080p TN even when it has strobing tech. Also, if you do get an OLED, try turning Uniform Brightness ON in competitive shooters. I found having Uniform Brightness OFF would cause certain things in-game to blind me because they were too bright.

If I was trying to go pro in an FPS game, I would buy whatever monitor will be used at LAN tournaments.

Here's a direct comparison of the PG27AQDP and XL2586X:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/co ... 9885/54893

[MSIfanboy]

i have several monitors with backlight strobing, brightness aside, all are quite similar, clarity wise, even an IPS benq i have running 120hz is as clear as my xl2546k, though 540hz has almost no overshoot, but in reality, in game, you wont even notice it, sure in a ufo test with a solid color background

[MSIfanboy]

with the asus pg24aqp, you can use the ulmb2 hack using CRU, to make any refresh rate with ulmb work, you just have to disable overclocking, and make sure total pixel clock of say 250hz is 970. then the monitor thinks its 360hz, but isnt, but brightness is reduced more than 360hz/540hz, but you can gain it back by running HDR in windows 11 and calibrating the display using microsoft hdr app in windows store, also adjust the strobing to like +18/+20 ( i cant remember) to make the UFO clearer at 250hz

[soisoi]

Thanks all for the input. Well, it seems very difficult to pick... I wish there we're a way to try them both without buying first... :/

[Supermodel_Evelynn]

It's pretty stupid to think that any LCD even with strobing could ever compete with a 480 HZ OLED it doesn't matter how much you pretend the strobe LCD is better in gaming it doesn't change reality that your opinion is simply wrong.

I got just got my Christmas gift I bought for myself my Ultrawide 34" QD-OLED and I run games now even competitive games like League of Legends in HDR and there is noway in hell I would ever go back to any LCD, period.

It came as a shock to me that League of all games would even be optimized for HDR, then I played CS GO, Overwatch, Valorant, GTFO, Warhammer 40K Darktide and I was BLOWN AWAY

I was also able to watch movies in ultrawide without stupid blackbars and I was BLOWN AWAY

[soisoi]

For most modern games, you're correct!

But for old school legacy shooters that are super fast paced it could benefit from the lossless blur of DYAC2 / ULMB2. The games I mentioned are like 5x faster paced than the ones you mentioned

[Inco^]

It's pretty stupid to think that any LCD even with strobing could ever compete with a 480 HZ OLED it doesn't matter how much you pretend the strobe LCD is better in gaming it doesn't change reality that your opinion is simply wrong.

No, my experience is not stupid and my opinion is not invalid.
PG248QP outperforms PG27AQDP for the competitive game I play, period.

[Supermodel_Evelynn]

It's pretty stupid to think that any LCD even with strobing could ever compete with a 480 HZ OLED it doesn't matter how much you pretend the strobe LCD is better in gaming it doesn't change reality that your opinion is simply wrong.

No, my experience is not stupid and my opinion is not invalid.
PG248QP outperforms PG27AQDP for the competitive game I play, period.

Your opinion is wrong because the PG248QP is 1080p so your PC is just bad since it cannot keep up with the FPS needed to run 1440P OLED
Your PC being bad has nothing to do with the monitor. Off course 1080P trash will "Feel" better even tho it's just placebo.

OLED is objectively superior to LCD since OLED has a 99% refresh rate compliance, your opinions doesn't change basic scientific facts.
I know full well about the TN crowd it's a CULT just like the audiophile crowd who swear by "silver dragon audio cables" having better sound quality and when exposed as snake oil they say the cables just need to "break in" for a few thousand hours and when science is used to expose their snake oil they ban science like what Head Fi forum does.

This isn't the flat earth society and your opinions about OLED is and always will be wrong, OLEDs are superior to LCD in everyway imaginable in fact OLED with BFI can do perfect "Strobing" with 0 cross talk something LCD can never do cause introducing BFI to LCD = image retention

I have seen these TN trash they advertise for Esports like the PG248QP, it has tons of cross talk and red fringing when strobing.
Not that it matters since they run those TN at 640x480 stretched resolution to do "pixel splitting" anyways.

PS: Pro Gamer Shroud switched to OLED and admitted those E-Sport LCD are a scam.

So glad I stopped falling for all these Snake Oil TN Scams and bought myself a QD-OLED for Christmas best investment I ever made