Viewsonic XG270 with 'PureXP" MBR [pre-tuned by Blur Busters!]

[Zealot]

The Memory recall did fix it, thanks for asking.

[qgshadow]

Info from amazon.com XG270 reviews, i don't know if it will be true or not, i not have this monitor for test:

https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-XG270- ... tBy=recent

Client Eric, annoyance with PureXP+, after reboot PC, PureXP+ is not working properly, bad image quality (more crosstalk than espected i think) and client need to disable PrueXP+ and enable it again to fix. The same occurs if client change some graphics settings, need re-enable PureXP+ in order to "refresh" the PureXP+ to detect the new settings.

Great news, the firmware upgrade fixes this -- it will remember PureXP between reboots now. Please make sure to install Viewsonic Elite Display Controller, reboot your computer, and then let it install the latest firmware.

Recommended PureXP+ refresh rate is 120Hz. Best blur reduction results occur at 75Hz to 144Hz, though if you want highest-Hz blur reduction, 224Hz looks noticeably better than 240Hz.

Has anyone posted any pursuit camera photos yet? I really want to see how strobbing looks on this monitor. The rtings photo isn't sufficient. Can anyone post some? Preferably showing how the monitor looks with strobbing off at 240hz, and strobing on at 224hz and 240hz?

In the next month, we'll be posting more pursuit camera pictures of 75Hz through 240Hz, including the easter egg modes (The unofficial low-lag QFT 120Hz mode, as well as the unofficial 10-bit 224Hz mode).

Due to improved overdrive, I should note 224Hz looks better than 240Hz for both strobing ON and strobing OFF (PureXP+ OFF). When using 224Hz, use maximum overdrive setting.

After updating the firmware the RGB keeps turning itself back on after every standby/power up. Is there a solution for this? Having to disable it every time gets annoying.

Does this still happen when you do "Memory Recall" (factory reset)?
Most weird quirks after firmware updates, are solvable via a fresh factory reset of all picture settings.
Remember to write down your settings beforehand.

Hi,

When i use 224hz and pureXP on, the overclock is greyed out. Can't use overdrive when PureXP is enabled.

Edit : nevermind, it's one of the other isnt?

[Smo]

The other question is PureXP a replacement for G-sync? Should that be off in the nvidia control panel?

Both have their pros/cons.
Right tool for the right job.

For stuttery games that fluctuates lots in frame rates -- use G-SYNC Compatible
For glassy-smooth games that can do fps=Hz with PureXP -- use PureXP+

Sometimes a stuttery game can go glassy smooth if you have enough GPU performance to guarantee fps=Hz during the various methods of frame rate capping (VSYNC ON, or tearingless VSYNC OFF via RTSS Scanline Sync, or Low-Lag VSYNC ON, or other method of fps=Hz).

Appreciate all your help in designing this monitor Chief, it's a true beauty!

You're welcome!

That make's complete sense, appreciate the clarification!!!

[Chief Blur Buster]

The Memory recall did fix it, thanks for asking.

You're welcome! It seems I should create a small Firmware Upgrade FAQ soon.

[qgshadow]

Is it normal that I can’t use overdrive and pureXP at the same time ?

I kinda want lowest latency possible. So I changed my Hz from 240 to 224 as you suggested and use pure xp extreme. I can’t enable overdrive when it is turned on though.

[Smo]

Is it normal that I can’t use overdrive and pureXP at the same time ?

I kinda want lowest latency possible. So I changed my Hz from 240 to 224 as you suggested and use pure xp extreme. I can’t enable overdrive when it is turned on though.

I'd love to check out 224hz as well to see the difference, did you use RTSS to limit the FPS to 224? I am a newb over here trying to read/learn as much as I can... thanks!

[Chief Blur Buster]

I kinda want lowest latency possible. So I changed my Hz from 240 to 224 as you suggested and use pure xp extreme. I can’t enable overdrive when it is turned on though.

Overdrive is if you don't use PureXP at 224Hz.
224Hz looks better than 240Hz for both PureXP enabled/disabled (aka strobed/nonstrobed)

I'd love to check out 224hz as well to see the difference, did you use RTSS to limit the FPS to 224? I am a newb over here trying to read/learn as much as I can... thanks!

Depends on the game you play, but if you're using CS:GO and VSYNC OFF, it's favourable to just use a frame rate far beyond Hz.

But if your frame rate is much lower, it's quite favourable to use capping to help achieve consistent latency, or to create improved motion quality (VRR, or fps=Hz, etc)

[cabb]

TLDR; If you're playing CSGO, Valorant, or any other competitive FPS, I think you will be better off without PureXP. I settled on PureXP off, OD Fastest G-Sync ON, Refresh Rate 224hz, FPS Limiter at 220.

The OD is one of the best I've seen on this monitor, even at 224hz. Compared to my Asus PG348Q at least, which creates overshoots everywhere on Extreme.

Why the above settings? The reason being is that even with CSGO with my setup (Ryzen 3700X & 2080 Super), it's very hard to have constant 224fps/224hz for PureXP to look it's best - CSGO tends to dip to 180 in some areas and back at 220. Valorant goes from 160-220 a lot.

The latency between G-Sync (with FPS Limiter) and V-Sync Off is almost negligible (1-2ms at best, which is really low. You can read all about it here of course).

Initially I wanted to really make PureXP work even for competitive games (despite the input lag, which I did not perceive at all - primary reason I leaned towards this monitor was at how much PureXP was praised). I found PureXP Extreme @224hz to be a good balance between Brightness and Performance. Though, as explained already in a number of other posts, it looks glass smooth if you can constantly match FPS/Refresh Rate, and at such high frame rates - it's very hard to hold the constant high fps. I did play with this setting initially (PureXP On Extreme, G-Sync Off, V-Sync Off, FPS Uncapped) and actually, I found the whole thing to be quite pleasing and, albeit not perfect. I think strobed + uncapped fps + 224hz + vsync-off is something a lot of people can and will be playing with (even on other similar monitors).

So then, I decided to tone down to 144hz/144FPS which is more achievable for Valorant (V-Sync Off though, cause latency competitiveness). Unfortunately the experience wasn't as glass-smooth even with the more constant fps/hertz as I hoped and I played a whole match with a lot of micro-stuttering that was annoying, something I never noticed with other settings. Could be an engine thing, though most probably V-Sync On would've helped here. I didn't bother testing that one out.

And then, I switched PureXP off, set-up OD to Fastest, tried V-Sync Off and G-Sync ON with FPS Limiter, and I just fell in love. It honestly looks almost as good to PureXP at 200+hz (even doing the UFO Blur Test), you get no tearing thanks to G-Sync, you can have your frames stay within maximum hertz without having the need to have your computer hardware screaming for maximum unbounds frames as possible.

So in a nutshell, I think you get more benefits if you cannot keep your frames constant, and at 200+ FPS, you're most likely to be CPU bound in a lot of these competitive games, and the game would probably look best with G-Sync On.

So, no more PureXP? Well, no actually. I think for your desktop, 120hz + V-Sync On looks really really really good. The CRT effect is there, the UFO looks amazing, and I will most probably play 120hz with PureXP Extreme + V-Sync ON for a number of games, like Warcraft III, Warhammer 2, Forza Horizon. Call of Duty Warzone for example (a less competitive game), 120hz+PureXP Extreme and V-Sync just looks so clean and smooth, it's very hard to explain other than use the term "glass smooth".

But for CS, Valorant, I'm going for G-Sync with FPS Limiter and rely on OverDrive instead.

Conclusion This is the best looking monitor when it comes to motion and colours (if you're OK with 1080p at 27" - I think it's fine whilst gaming at the right distance, plus you get extra frames!) - I am incredibly happy that IPS panels are giving TN panels a run for their money in terms of performance. I just cannot stand TN panels even for CSGO. I swore that after I sold my older AOC G2770PF I would not get another TN panel - it just looks really pale especially if you have another decent monitor paired in your desk.

My criteria for buying a new monitor was: Primary aim was for competitive FPS games (CSGO,Valorant), and decided to go to 240hz instead of 144hz regardless of diminishing returns for an upgrade as higher frames, means lower input lag. After having a massive list of monitors, it ultimately all boiled down to the Asus VG279QM (or I was very close on getting the 144hz+ 1440p Asus VG27AQ as well.) and the ViewSonic XG270. What made me get the XG270 was the fact how PureXP was highly praised, and that I raid that even though Asus can do Adaptive Sync + ELMB (ELMB-Sync), it just wasn't as good as PureXP, though I am very curious to test out such a panel.

[Chief Blur Buster]

The CRT effect is there, the UFO looks amazing, and I will most probably play 120hz with PureXP Extreme + V-Sync ON for a number of games, like Warcraft III, Warhammer 2, Forza Horizon. Call of Duty Warzone for example (a less competitive game), 120hz+PureXP Extreme and V-Sync just looks so clean and smooth, it's very hard to explain other than use the term "glass smooth".

Thanks for your fantastic review about PureXP!

This is exactly why the Blur Busters Approved programme was started. Poor colors, bad crosstalk, dim brightness, etc.

(Note: The programme is currently open to all manufacturers, by the way -- though a bit delayed due to COVID-19 -- will be making more announcements in the near future)

It's definitely a perfectly shining example of "Right Tool For Right Job". It's much better for scrolling / panning / turning situations that don't have fixed references (i.e. cross hairs) that reduces the amount of eye-tracking-benefits of blur reduction.

No monitor ever invented is a perfect jack of all trades, even CRTs weren't either (no flickerfree mode, no 1080p 240Hz, no perfect geometry, etc), and the PureXP+ is a great CRT-effect mode at 120Hz. Realistic expectations for how to correctly monitor settings for the right purposes for the best benefits (lag priority, quality priority, etc). You've got it all figured out!

Optional: If you're daring, you might want to try the custom 120Hz Quick Frame Transport mode with RTSS Scanline Sync, to have 12ms less 120Hz latency than the default 120Hz PureXP+ VSYNC ON mode. But it's almost a Ph.D-league complicated tweak. You've been warned.

The OD is one of the best I've seen on this monitor, even at 224hz. Compared to my Asus PG348Q at least, which creates overshoots everywhere on Extreme.

I'm glad you love the accidentally discovered easter-egg 224 Hz non-strobed mode!

I knew OD worked better at slightly lower Hz, but the exact sweet spot number 224 is a discovery by forum users here. I'll be honest that it even surprised me that OD on this panel worked much better at 220-230Hz than 240Hz. 224Hz is just a good magic number that enable 10bit cable connection (better color processing even for an 8bit panel, smoother Lagom Contrast Gradient test).

In fact, XG270 224Hz IPS (at maximum OD) has better overdrive than many of my older TN 240Hz monitors, non-strobed versus non-strobed. (And even in some cases, strobed versus strobed -- I've seen worse 224Hz TN strobing than 224Hz IPS PureXP+)

Many artifacts can pretty much disappear with just even a very slight hertzroom adjustment on many panels, but the XG270 panel is VERY receptive to ghosting-quality-improvement-via-hertzroom.

[RossianSpy]

Hi, I've just joined cause I've been reading this whole forum about this monitor now and have some questions. How big is the input lag difference if your using PureXp 120hz with vsync and nvidia low latency mode vs 224hz gsync with 221 fps limit trick that you've posted on your optimal gsync settings guide?

Optional: If you're daring, you might want to try the custom 120Hz Quick Frame Transport mode with RTSS Scanline Sync, to have 12ms less 120Hz latency than the default 120Hz PureXP+ VSYNC ON mode. But it's almost a Ph.D-league complicated tweak. You've been warned.

When you mean its Ph.D level tweak, does it mean that you can break the monitor if you mess up doing this? What would be the consequences of trying this and messing up. Also could this tweak be performed on a 224hz PureXP setup to even further reduce input lag?
I know that you have posted a guide to how to do this trick for this monitor, but is there anything else that you would recommend reading before for someone that has never attempted this before?
Thank you!