Looking for new 1440p 27" with low motionblur.

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dANii
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Looking for new 1440p 27" with low motionblur.

Post by dANii » 23 Mar 2021, 06:21

I want to move from my 1080p TN to a 27" 1440p monitor. However I am spoiled by CRT (back in the day) and DyAC nowadays. Very sensitive to ghosting and mostly only play competitive games. I started playing simracing games a bit so that's why I am looking to move to a bigger screen with a higher res. What monitor would still give me the least ghosting for competitive FPS, combined with a higher res? Thanks guys!

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Re: Looking for new 1440p 27" with low motionblur.

Post by StareX » 23 Mar 2021, 06:41

I personally use the AW2721D and I also play competitively, it's also the monitor shroud uses, and I barely see any motion blur but it doesn't have a Low Motion blur feature like ULMB/ELMB/BFI.

I enjoy it nonetheless

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Re: Looking for new 1440p 27" with low motionblur.

Post by Markachy » 23 Mar 2021, 06:54

I've had similar dilemmas to yourself and have done a good amount of reading recently, so will pass on my knowledge - I'm new to this monitor rabbit-hole though, so forgive me if something is not 100% right - I'm sure others will assist.

First question to consider is, can your PC realistically push frames at 1440p at high refresh rate? Second question to answer, is if the monitor required is (a) primarily for competitive FPS games and you require motion blur reduction (DyAc etc), or (b) a fast, responsive panel at 1440p that will be used for other purposes such as work, browsing, single player gaming where speed isn't everything all of the time, and can sacrifice special blur reduction for those things.

If your answer is (a) then your options aren't great just yet for 27" 1440p - I think the Chief has hinted at Blur Buster Approved 1ms 1440p 240Hz monitors due possibly at the end of this year with great motion blur reduction. Currently, there is no 1440p monitor with great blur reduction that I am aware of. If your answer is (b) then you are in a similar position to me, and I went for one of the LG nano panel IPS monitors (LG27GL850/Legion Y27Q-20/Viewsonic XG270QG) as they are generally recommended as the best all-rounders at the moment, very responsive so low motion blur, great colours etc, at the cost of contrast. Some of them can technically do special motion blur reduction (like DyAc) but it looks awful due to red phosphor issue.

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Re: Looking for new 1440p 27" with low motionblur.

Post by dANii » 23 Mar 2021, 07:39

Markachy wrote:
23 Mar 2021, 06:54
I've had similar dilemmas to yourself and have done a good amount of reading recently, so will pass on my knowledge - I'm new to this monitor rabbit-hole though, so forgive me if something is not 100% right - I'm sure others will assist.
Yeah my PC can push the frames, 9900KS with a 2080 Super. I might go for a 27" 1440p TN such as the DELL S2719DGF as TN panels have barely any ghosting.

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Re: Looking for new 1440p 27" with low motionblur.

Post by Markachy » 23 Mar 2021, 08:42

dANii wrote:
23 Mar 2021, 07:39
Markachy wrote:
23 Mar 2021, 06:54
I've had similar dilemmas to yourself and have done a good amount of reading recently, so will pass on my knowledge - I'm new to this monitor rabbit-hole though, so forgive me if something is not 100% right - I'm sure others will assist.
Yeah my PC can push the frames, 9900KS with a 2080 Super. I might go for a 27" 1440p TN such as the DELL S2719DGF as TN panels have barely any ghosting.
I tried that S2719DGF panel myself - while it had great motion at the time, its an old one at this stage. I'm fairly sure that the newer nano IPS panels are actually superior to those older TN panels - just as responsive if not more so, with far better image quality.

Dell now sell the S2721DGF, which is the new version of the S2719DGF - from what I have read, the nano IPS in the 2721DGF is an upgrade over the TN in every single way - worth considering these nano IPS panel monitors by the looks of things. LG 27GL850(and variants)/Lenovo Legion Y27Q-20/Viewsonic XG270QG/Dell S2721DGF all share the same panel and are broadly comparable to each other. The only native GSync one is the XG270QG - good for your 2080 Super.

If you are in the UK, and have no qualms about Amazon Warehouse, you can currently grab the XG270QG for under £400 due to a 30% off Amazon Warehouse deal on at the moment - discount is only visible once added to the basket, and you go to the checkout.
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Re: Looking for new 1440p 27" with low motionblur.

Post by Falkentyne » 23 Mar 2021, 19:41

dANii wrote:
23 Mar 2021, 06:21
I want to move from my 1080p TN to a 27" 1440p monitor. However I am spoiled by CRT (back in the day) and DyAC nowadays. Very sensitive to ghosting and mostly only play competitive games. I started playing simracing games a bit so that's why I am looking to move to a bigger screen with a higher res. What monitor would still give me the least ghosting for competitive FPS, combined with a higher res? Thanks guys!
Be on the lookout for an upcoming 1440p IPS monitor this year that can SINGLE STROBE at 60hz all the way up to 165hz. Chief knows about this monitor but is still under NDA for any announcements.

I am aware of the Benq XL2735 1440p 144hz TN, but considering the age of this monitor and of the limited Vertical Total tweak range, and only the older DyAc mode (which I believe is equal to Dyac High on the DyAc+ models) I would avoid this.

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Re: Looking for new 1440p 27" with low motionblur.

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 23 Mar 2021, 23:14

I like the new 1440p 165Hz IPS in non-strobed mode, but these panels have a red phosphor ghosting issue in strobed mode -- www.blurbusters.com/red-phosphor -- but if you don't use strobed mode, then they're among the nicest 1440p panels on the market for less than four figures.
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Re: Looking for new 1440p 27" with low motionblur.

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 23 Mar 2021, 23:17

dANii wrote:
23 Mar 2021, 07:39
Yeah my PC can push the frames, 9900KS with a 2080 Super. I might go for a 27" 1440p TN such as the DELL S2719DGF as TN panels have barely any ghosting.
Or any 2020-and-newer IPS panels. Both IPS and TN is now roughly equal in ghosting for the majority of users.

The difference between TN and IPS have progressively narrowed until parity was finally achieved last year, and I can attest with my eyes -- I have seen thousands of screens.

Year 2005 -- IPS had 8x more ghosting than average TN, ~16-33ms vs ~2ms
Year 2015 -- IPS had 3x more ghosting than average TN, ~3ms vs ~1ms
Year 2021 -- IPS has same ghosting as average TN*, ~1ms vs ~1ms

*Only if you buy a 165Hz+ panel manufactured 2020 or newer, utilizing the new FastIPS technology, compared versus an average TN. They made a rather sudden leap to TN parity.

Sure, a very good better-than-average TN panel like a BenQ XL2546 can have marginally less ghosting, but IPS now does higher Hz than TN, and extra Hz can compensate for the slight differential. The 280 Hz and 360 Hz monitor have less motion blur than TN. The TN-vs-IPS venn diagram overlaps much more nowadays.

See CRT Nirvana Guide for DIsappointed CRT-to-LCD Upgraders (2 methods). And don't forget to properly use the Refresh Rate Headroom Trick (120Hz strobing on 240Hz panels looks better than 120Hz strobing on 144Hz panels).
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Re: Looking for new 1440p 27" with low motionblur.

Post by Markachy » 24 Mar 2021, 05:03

Chief, that is yet another deeply-buried, excellent article disguised as a forum post!

You should maybe sticky a version of it, or turn into a full-blown article, as it summarises strobing options and considerations in the best way I've yet seen on here!

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Re: Looking for new 1440p 27" with low motionblur.

Post by dANii » 24 Mar 2021, 06:08

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
23 Mar 2021, 23:17
dANii wrote:
23 Mar 2021, 07:39
Yeah my PC can push the frames, 9900KS with a 2080 Super. I might go for a 27" 1440p TN such as the DELL S2719DGF as TN panels have barely any ghosting.
Or any 2020-and-newer IPS panels. Both IPS and TN is now roughly equal in ghosting for the majority of users.

The difference between TN and IPS have progressively narrowed until parity was finally achieved last year, and I can attest with my eyes -- I have seen thousands of screens.

Year 2005 -- IPS had 8x more ghosting than average TN, ~16-33ms vs ~2ms
Year 2015 -- IPS had 3x more ghosting than average TN, ~3ms vs ~1ms
Year 2021 -- IPS has same ghosting as average TN*, ~1ms vs ~1ms

*Only if you buy a 165Hz+ panel manufactured 2020 or newer, utilizing the new FastIPS technology, compared versus an average TN. They made a rather sudden leap to TN parity.

Sure, a very good better-than-average TN panel like a BenQ XL2546 can have marginally less ghosting, but IPS now does higher Hz than TN, and extra Hz can compensate for the slight differential. The 280 Hz and 360 Hz monitor have less motion blur than TN. The TN-vs-IPS venn diagram overlaps much more nowadays.

See CRT Nirvana Guide for DIsappointed CRT-to-LCD Upgraders (2 methods). And don't forget to properly use the Refresh Rate Headroom Trick (120Hz strobing on 240Hz panels looks better than 120Hz strobing on 144Hz panels).
This is why I love this forum! Thank you for the information. I'll be on the look out for a good deal on a 27" fast ips panel, like XG279Q or the new DELL S2719DGFA.

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