Samsung Odyssey G7 32".jorimt wrote: ↑03 Aug 2020, 09:09Model?moep wrote: ↑03 Aug 2020, 08:09How normal is it to have flickering outside of the G-Sync range on G-Sync compatible monitors?
I just went from an old monitor with a G-Sync module to one that's just compatible. The former had 0 flickering over 5+ years, the latter flickers like crazy outside of the VRR range (VA).
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Okay, so what do you mean by "outside of the VRR range" exactly? Do you mean when the framerate is above the refresh rate, or in the LFC range, both? With G-SYNC Compatible on, off or both?moep wrote: ↑03 Aug 2020, 09:52Samsung Odyssey G7 32".jorimt wrote: ↑03 Aug 2020, 09:09Model?moep wrote: ↑03 Aug 2020, 08:09How normal is it to have flickering outside of the G-Sync range on G-Sync compatible monitors?
I just went from an old monitor with a G-Sync module to one that's just compatible. The former had 0 flickering over 5+ years, the latter flickers like crazy outside of the VRR range (VA).
What I can say is, minor flicker is expected with very low frame/refresh rates during loading screens, etc, even on a native G-SYNC display, but it sounds like you may be experiencing it in a different context.
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I'm not 100% on the amazing G-SYNC 101 Series.
My setup:
In the settings for OW I can only limit to 144 so I think I need to use an FPS limiter yet I have never used one before. I have MSI afterburner installed for my GPU fan curve so maybe I can tie it in there somehow...
So I have the settings correct in the Nvidia CP - with GSYNC On + VSync On
Now with the 144 FPS setting I'm trying to match the 144Hz of my monitor, yet many times FPS either exceeds or dips below 144. Am I using the FPS limiter to set the limit to 141 for all games based on these settings? Or do I have to constantly tweak based on games?
Did I get something wrong with these settings and there's a better way to do this?
Thanks for any help.
My setup:
I'm using Outer Worlds as an example.ASUS VG278QR 27 @144Hz
Intel Core i7-10700K
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB
Sabrent Rocket 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super FE
In the settings for OW I can only limit to 144 so I think I need to use an FPS limiter yet I have never used one before. I have MSI afterburner installed for my GPU fan curve so maybe I can tie it in there somehow...
So I have the settings correct in the Nvidia CP - with GSYNC On + VSync On
Now with the 144 FPS setting I'm trying to match the 144Hz of my monitor, yet many times FPS either exceeds or dips below 144. Am I using the FPS limiter to set the limit to 141 for all games based on these settings? Or do I have to constantly tweak based on games?
Did I get something wrong with these settings and there's a better way to do this?
Thanks for any help.
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I think you can find the relevant ini file of the game and set t.MaxFPS=140.
You don't need afterburner. You only need RTSS (which gets installed with afterburner, but you can run it on its own.)I have MSI afterburner installed for my GPU fan curve so maybe I can tie it in there somehow...
Well, with g-sync you should NOT match it if you care about input lag. As mentioned in the article.Now with the 144 FPS setting I'm trying to match the 144Hz of my monitor
You can do whatever you want. I set an FPS limit depending on the game. If a game can't reach 140FPS but can run at about 100FPS for example most of the time, I cap to 100. But that's just my preference.yet many times FPS either exceeds or dips below 144. Am I using the FPS limiter to set the limit to 141 for all games based on these settings? Or do I have to constantly tweak based on games?
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Re: Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101 Series Discussion
As long as my 0.1% or 1% lows aren't too low in the given game, I've been doing this lately as well. I.e. if my system can only reach 75 FPS, I'll limit to 70, etc (while keeping my refresh rate maxed when using G-SYNC, obviously).
I honestly find it a superior experience where input, refresh rate, and frametime consistency is concerned when directly compared to, say, 70-141 FPS VRR at 144Hz. You're mileage may vary and all that.
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Author: Blur Busters "G-SYNC 101" Series
Displays: ASUS PG27AQN, LG 48CX VR: Beyond, Quest 3, Reverb G2, Index OS: Windows 11 Pro Case: Fractal Design Torrent PSU: Seasonic PRIME TX-1000 MB: ASUS Z790 Hero CPU: Intel i9-13900k w/Noctua NH-U12A GPU: GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC RAM: 32GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 DDR5 6400MHz CL32 SSDs: 2TB WD_BLACK SN850 (OS), 4TB WD_BLACK SN850X (Games) Keyboards: Wooting 60HE, Logitech G915 TKL Mice: Razer Viper Mini SE, Razer Viper 8kHz Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Katana V2 (speakers/amp/DAC), AFUL Performer 8 (IEMs)
Author: Blur Busters "G-SYNC 101" Series
Displays: ASUS PG27AQN, LG 48CX VR: Beyond, Quest 3, Reverb G2, Index OS: Windows 11 Pro Case: Fractal Design Torrent PSU: Seasonic PRIME TX-1000 MB: ASUS Z790 Hero CPU: Intel i9-13900k w/Noctua NH-U12A GPU: GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC RAM: 32GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 DDR5 6400MHz CL32 SSDs: 2TB WD_BLACK SN850 (OS), 4TB WD_BLACK SN850X (Games) Keyboards: Wooting 60HE, Logitech G915 TKL Mice: Razer Viper Mini SE, Razer Viper 8kHz Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Katana V2 (speakers/amp/DAC), AFUL Performer 8 (IEMs)
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I'll find and edit the ini file. Do you think I should I be able to find similar settings to edit in other modern games like Doom: Eternal and Cyberpunk? And if I edit the pref files I don't need the FPS limiter correct?RealNC wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020, 15:24I think you can find the relevant ini file of the game and set t.MaxFPS=140.
You don't need afterburner. You only need RTSS (which gets installed with afterburner, but you can run it on its own.)I have MSI afterburner installed for my GPU fan curve so maybe I can tie it in there somehow...
Well, with g-sync you should NOT match it if you care about input lag. As mentioned in the article.Now with the 144 FPS setting I'm trying to match the 144Hz of my monitor
You can do whatever you want. I set an FPS limit depending on the game. If a game can't reach 140FPS but can run at about 100FPS for example most of the time, I cap to 100. But that's just my preference.yet many times FPS either exceeds or dips below 144. Am I using the FPS limiter to set the limit to 141 for all games based on these settings? Or do I have to constantly tweak based on games?
I think I get the matching thing - so my goal now is really always 141 FPS for 144Hz - right?
So for my Outer Worlds example I generally hit ironically right about 141 yet it does dip to 100 sometimes. Is there some formula I should follow - even based on your preference? Like what happens if I set it to 100 and I'm all up at 144 a lot? I really dont understand the science here so don't waste your time trying to explain - I'll read the article many more times trying to comprehend - Im just more looking for your preference/opinion.
Thanks so much!
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So if you limit to 70 what happens when the FPS climbs to 150 (if it did).jorimt wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020, 15:33As long as my 0.1% or 1% lows aren't too low in the given game, I've been doing this lately as well. I.e. if my system can only reach 75 FPS, I'll limit to 70, etc (while keeping my refresh rate maxed when using G-SYNC, obviously).
I honestly find it a superior experience where input, refresh rate, and frametime consistency is concerned when directly compared to, say, 70-141 FPS VRR at 144Hz. You're mileage may vary and all that.
I dont get the VRR and again, please don't waste your time trying to explain. I will read the article and forums a bunch more for the science.
Again thank you so much!
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It stays at 70.
This method doesn't directly involve G-SYNC, is optional/preferential, and is only for the purpose of consistency where your system can't maintain a higher sustained framerate in the given game.
Don't let it confuse you where recommended G-SYNC settings are concerned.
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Author: Blur Busters "G-SYNC 101" Series
Displays: ASUS PG27AQN, LG 48CX VR: Beyond, Quest 3, Reverb G2, Index OS: Windows 11 Pro Case: Fractal Design Torrent PSU: Seasonic PRIME TX-1000 MB: ASUS Z790 Hero CPU: Intel i9-13900k w/Noctua NH-U12A GPU: GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC RAM: 32GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 DDR5 6400MHz CL32 SSDs: 2TB WD_BLACK SN850 (OS), 4TB WD_BLACK SN850X (Games) Keyboards: Wooting 60HE, Logitech G915 TKL Mice: Razer Viper Mini SE, Razer Viper 8kHz Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Katana V2 (speakers/amp/DAC), AFUL Performer 8 (IEMs)
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Thanks for explaining.jorimt wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020, 20:07It stays at 70.
This method doesn't directly involve G-SYNC, is optional/preferential, and is only for the purpose of consistency where your system can't maintain a higher sustained framerate in the given game.
Don't let it confuse you where recommended G-SYNC settings are concerned.
I get it!
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I couldnt find the settings file yet I was able find info on how to set the max frames in NVCP: I hope that works...