Considering producing SED/FED monitors... Critique needed

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Re: Considering producing SED/FED monitors... Critique neede

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 03 Aug 2014, 13:01

I'd buy a 16:10 obviously as a programmer, but as a businessman I would consider 16:9 to reduce costs (so you don't go bankrupt) and I'd buy it anyway if you hit those numbers you already quoted. A 16:9 monitor is better than zero monitor, you know? Frankly, even if you get pixel noise and contouring potentially worse than a plasma (a friendly advance warning for your engineers to solve), the numbers such as 1000Hz are just too delicious to resist at that pricing -- for a Blur Busters motion lover and low lag nuts like some of us. I welcome any 1000Hz overlords to the consumer gaming monitor market, blowing away LCD in several areas, even if it has a couple of tradeoffs here and there.
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Re: Considering producing SED/FED monitors... Critique neede

Post by 3dfan » 05 Aug 2014, 09:31

as a crt tech lover, (specially for the motion clarity and non native resolution image scaling clarity) that sed technology sound very interesting to me.

rabidz7, a question i have is: would it be posible to use those monitors at a refresh rate of 60hz? or the the refreshes you mentioned would be the minimum posible?.

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Re: Considering producing SED/FED monitors... Critique neede

Post by Waddo » 06 Aug 2014, 01:09

I'd buy several...monitors are exasperatingly slow with quality improvements compared to everything else it seems...and I don't care about paper thin or stylish monitors anyway, and the ratios are a moot point cause i'm still using an 8 year old 16:10 1680x1050 monitor
and if not for g/freesyncs and lightboost coming out there would only be a small improvement from upgrading.

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Re: Considering producing SED/FED monitors... Critique neede

Post by rabidz7 » 06 Aug 2014, 10:21

3dfan wrote:as a crt tech lover, (specially for the motion clarity and non native resolution image scaling clarity) that sed technology sound very interesting to me.

rabidz7, a question i have is: would it be posible to use those monitors at a refresh rate of 60hz? or the the refreshes you mentioned would be the minimum posible?.
In theory, yes, they could used at 60Hz, but they'd flicker like a CRT or LightBoost LCD at 60Hz.
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Re: Considering producing SED/FED monitors... Critique neede

Post by Waddo » 09 Aug 2014, 01:31

I know they have 4k on 24" now but 4k on 50cm would be :o


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Re: Considering producing SED/FED monitors... Critique neede

Post by spirit » 11 Aug 2014, 14:51

definitely +1, would donate


my minimum (but rather better):
matte 24" 1920x1080@144Hz+ (ofc 1920x1200 is ok)


For me (gaming monitor) and you (money), I would not go much crazy about PPI (pixel-per-inch), because UI can get easly broken and people can get wtf-is-this if you start pushing "big res" to "small monitor" or otherwise, so I would stay in current PPI standarts (1920x1080-24"), (2560x1440-27"), ... And I don't know how these SEDs/FEDs works, but on CRT (EIZO F931) if you have 1600x1200@104 on desktop and 1280x1024@120 in-game and alt-tabs, refresh-rate downgrades to lower one, sometimes helps to change it back in menu, but it is a pain (got even autohotkey macro for that :))

Imho for succesful business, depends on release date, but monitor 6 looks like gamers choice for now and I think it will for some time, because at least in gaming 1920x1080 will be there as a standart (HW of next-gen consoles must catch up with in-game graphics demand), plus you will have superior refresh rate, no latency, no input lag, no ghosting, epic colors advantage, so no need for 2560x1440, maybe even no G-Sync and people will buy it.


If you want cover DTP, go second monitor, because you don't need high refresh rate, on other side size of a monitor and resolution is NUMBER ONE. If you try to pull both monitors together and make compromise, people will go wtf-is-this again feeling and your monitor will lose the edge.


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My monitor experience: CRT 17" 1280x1024@85Hz > LCD 19" 1280x1024@60Hz (for a week) > CRT 19" 1280x1024@100Hz > Acer gd245hq 1920x1080@120Hz > CRT 21" (EIZO F931) 1600x1200@104Hz > BenQ XL2420T 1920x1080@120Hz > BenQ XL2411T rev1 1920x1080@144Hz > BenQ XL2411T rev2 1920x1080@144Hz > BenQ XL2411Z 1920x1080@144Hz

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Re: Considering producing SED/FED monitors... Critique neede

Post by hehe2 » 12 Aug 2014, 05:46

Hi,

I would really engjoy having one of those monitors (with a few additions) :

First display : Monitor 4, matte, 70cm OR Monitor 5, matte, 80cm

Additional request :
=> support Full HD 1920x1080@144Hz (or @120Hz if not possible)
=> additional HDMI input (even if it's limited to 60Hz or 120Hz) to plug a gaming console (PS4)

Second display : Monitor 8, matte, 80cm (or really more, like 65'' style)

Additional request :
=> support Full HD 1920x1080@144Hz (or @120Hz if not possible)
=> support Quad HD 3840x2160@100Hz (or 90Hz if not possible)
=> additional HDMI input (even if it's limited to 60Hz in QHD or 120Hz in FHD) to plug a gaming console (PS4)

I'm eager to seeing these screens on the market !

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Re: Considering producing SED/FED monitors... Critique neede

Post by DaveKap » 12 Aug 2014, 21:47

How small could you get the bezel on the edge of these monitors? It's a niche market (like SED/FED high-hz wanters) but there are folks willing to shell out cash for this kind of setup:
http://youtu.be/hsEsIXPkLAU
And they'd be just the type to buy a bezel-free monitor, just FYI.

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Re: Considering producing SED/FED monitors... Critique neede

Post by Eyeblur » 22 Sep 2014, 18:32

If these monitors did exist, I'd pay up to 2399 dollars for one (at least 150Hz, 2560x1600, 60cm.)

I support entirely the production of SED/FED.

The previous attempt at producing SED/FED were stopped by patent trolls, watch out.

Please excuse my english.

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