Can't create non-native resoultions

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Re: Can't create non-native resoultions

Post by wow10231 » 21 Sep 2024, 06:30

Hi! Thank you so much again for your interest to help me to fix this issue that i am really suffering from! thanks.

sadly as i have stated in my other messages. I indeed have tried to create custom res using NCP ( Nivida control panel ) so i tried not only with CRU but with other tool.

so sad T_T

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Re: Can't create non-native resoultions

Post by wow10231 » 21 Sep 2024, 06:31

( Yeah I have disabled the iGPU. Only my dGPU is working, aka the rtx 3070)

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Re: Can't create non-native resoultions

Post by RealNC » 21 Sep 2024, 06:54

I have no explanation why GPU scaling the custom resolutions doesn't work. If you have the same refresh rate as the native resolution in the custom resolution and force GPU scaling in the NVCP (the "override the scaling mode set by games and programs" box is checked,) then the signal sent to the display is the native resolution, not the custom resolution.

I have no idea why it doesn't work for you :-/
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Re: Can't create non-native resoultions

Post by wow10231 » 21 Sep 2024, 06:58

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I have no explanation why GPU scaling the custom resolutions doesn't work. If you have the same refresh rate as the native resolution in the custom resolution and force GPU scaling in the NVCP (the "override the scaling mode set by games and programs" box is checked,) then the signal sent to the display is the native resolution, not the custom resolution.

I have no idea why it doesn't work for you :-/
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wdym? i am confused. i dont want the native res to be the singal sent to the display, thats defy the goal i am trying to acheive.

My goal is to reduce the high res signal which is the native res of the display, by reducing the res so i can achieve higher overclocking.

i can create custom res only at native hz. if i decrease or increase ( 164hz or 166hz ) it will just inanely artiafcts. even if i add a custom res with the native 165hz and it appears in the ncp or the windows display settings. it will still use the 2560x1600p native res. not the newly created res. i want to create 1920x1200 and use that res signal/ bandwith so i can overclock higher. pls help. thanks so much for ur help!! u re amazing

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Re: Can't create non-native resoultions

Post by RealNC » 21 Sep 2024, 07:15

wow10231 wrote:
21 Sep 2024, 06:58
wdym? i am confused. i dont want the native res to be the singal sent to the display, thats defy the goal i am trying to acheive.

My goal is to reduce the high res signal which is the native res of the display, by reducing the res so i can achieve higher overclocking.

i can create custom res only at native hz. if i decrease or increase ( 164hz or 166hz ) it will just inanely artiafcts. even if i add a custom res with the native 165hz and it appears in the ncp or the windows display settings. it will still use the 2560x1600p native res. not the newly created res. i want to create 1920x1200 and use that res signal/ bandwith so i can overclock higher. pls help. thanks so much for ur help!! u re amazing
I misunderstood your initial posts then. Sorry.

If this is the laptop's screen rather than an external display, you can't do that. Most laptop screens do not have scalers, AFAIK. That means they need to be driven with the native resolution. They can't scale other resolutions themselves. People who overclock laptop displays do so with the native resolution. If your screen is not overlockable that way, you will not be able to do it through lower resolutions, since the screen does not support lower resolutions.

But even with external displays, or if your laptop screen does have a scaler, overclocking that way usually doesn't work. If the native resolution is not overclockable, lower resolutions will not help either most of the time, because the display's firmware will simply refuse to accept the signal, or if it accepts it, it will display a nagging, permanent pop-up on message on the screen (something like "unsupported resolution" or similar) that can't be removed.

If you tried everything to overlock your screen's native resolution with all sorts of timing choices (native, reduce, exact, etc.) and it just doesn't work, I don't think there's anything you can do about it. Your screen is just not overclockable.
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Re: Can't create non-native resoultions

Post by wow10231 » 21 Sep 2024, 07:23

Hi, Thnx very much help.

my laptop screen/panel can indeed overclock. i have oveclocked from 165hz to 182hz. i know other people who can lower their res to get higher refresh rates. so it is a thing, it is possible ( i it is for me hope T_T ). and it can overclock at lower refresh rates, i can get 2560x1600p at 30hz, 40hz, 55hz, 100hz. or anything below 165hz.

in the NCP ( Nividia control panel ) when i create a higher refresh rate. i can see the lower res getting that newly added refresh rate. for example when i add 180hz for 2560x1600p, i can see that 1920x1200 will also have that new refresh rate.


so it does indeed scales. my issue is that i cant reduce the active signal res/mode ( u know what that mean right? ) at any refresh rate above or below 165hz. for eaxmple if i set my custom res to 165.5 it will show artifacts. if i set it to 164 it will show artifacts. if i keep it as 165hz then it will display fine.

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Re: Can't create non-native resoultions

Post by wow10231 » 21 Sep 2024, 07:31

from CRU website

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Laptop displays usually don't have scalers and can't display non-native resolutions without GPU scaling. To add other refresh rates, add the refresh rate at the native resolution. The graphics driver will automatically add the refresh rate to lower scaled resolutions.
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so sad. means it is impossible. SO SADDDDDDDDDDDD

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Re: Can't create non-native resoultions

Post by wow10231 » 22 Sep 2024, 06:30

I still insist it would work, I managed to display non native res and it works fine. it is just not working non default hz. so the statement of ToastyX does not apply for me, coz he mention Resoultion not Hz. Resoultion works now, only Hz cant work if below 165 or above it.

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Re: Can't create non-native resoultions

Post by RealNC » 22 Sep 2024, 07:14

wow10231 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 06:30
only Hz cant work if below 165 or above it.
Also at native?
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Re: Can't create non-native resoultions

Post by wow10231 » 23 Sep 2024, 05:24

no, at native res ( 2560x1600 ) overclocking works fine, i can oc from 165hz 2560x1600 to 182hz 2560x1600.

i used SRE to create a resoultion 1902x1202. then set the active display pixels to 1902x1202 and it displayed them fine at 165hz, but at 165.5hz it wont work it artifact. at 165.49 hz it works fine perhaps coz it is still at 165hz. same with 164 it wont work. so minus or plus 1hz from 165hz at any non native res ( any higher or lower res than 2560x1600 ) it will just not work and show massive artifacts.

pls help me

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