BenQ UNIVERSAL 144Hz->220Hz OVERCLOCK for 1080p 144 Hz

Talk about overclocking displays at a higher refresh rate. This includes homebrew, 165Hz, QNIX, Catleap, Overlord Tempest, SEIKI displays, certain HDTVs, and other overclockable displays.
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Re: BenQ UNIVERSAL 144Hz->220Hz OVERCLOCK for 144Hz 1080p

Post by urut » 16 Jul 2019, 15:14

Works in XL2411Z with DVI but only on desktop. I dont use second monitor but my android phone with spacedesk driver, i must go to OSD-ACTIVATE to avoid a out of range screen, then i've got black screen but when i click "activate" with movie checkboxed on display application all goes cool. But whenever i open the game (csgo) i've got again blackscreen and out of range, and when i doing this on android i got alt tabbed to windows, any protips to use it in games?

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Re: BenQ UNIVERSAL 144Hz->220Hz OVERCLOCK for 144Hz 1080p

Post by do0om » 16 Jul 2019, 15:22

Using displayport or dvi?
Display port, haven't tried with DVI, should I?

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Re: BenQ UNIVERSAL 144Hz->220Hz OVERCLOCK for 144Hz 1080p

Post by Notty_PT » 16 Jul 2019, 15:54

do0om wrote:
Using displayport or dvi?
Display port, haven't tried with DVI, should I?
Was just curious, Chief reccomended DP. Did you try lower refresh rates like 200hz, 180hz, 165hz?

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Re: BenQ UNIVERSAL 144Hz->220Hz OVERCLOCK for 144Hz 1080p

Post by urut » 16 Jul 2019, 16:54

Okey, it already work when usin borderless mode, but i think some of you guys can do somethiing to get it work on fullscreen.

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Re: BenQ UNIVERSAL 144Hz->220Hz OVERCLOCK for 144Hz 1080p

Post by do0om » 16 Jul 2019, 20:26

Was just curious, Chief reccomended DP. Did you try lower refresh rates like 200hz, 180hz, 165hz?
Yes nothing above 149hz works using display port. I Haven't tried DVI. I am confused, I though DVI was limited to 144hz.

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Re: BenQ UNIVERSAL 144Hz->220Hz OVERCLOCK for 144Hz 1080p

Post by urut » 17 Jul 2019, 14:01

do0om wrote:
Was just curious, Chief reccomended DP. Did you try lower refresh rates like 200hz, 180hz, 165hz?
Yes nothing above 149hz works using display port. I Haven't tried DVI. I am confused, I though DVI was limited to 144hz.
On my case on xl2411z with dvi it works on 200hz, but only on desktop. When i launch a game its a out of range problem, and then when i do the trick with softmccs its alt tabbed so when i alt tab to game its again this message. I play with 200hz with windowed mode, but im glad someoone can do a trick to get this work with fulscreen mode.

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Re: BenQ UNIVERSAL 144Hz->220Hz OVERCLOCK for 1080p 144 Hz

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 17 Jul 2019, 15:55

Nice!

200 Hz via DVI.
urut wrote:But whenever i open the game (csgo) i've got again blackscreen and out of range, and when i doing this on android i got alt tabbed to windows, any protips to use it in games?
There probably will be a solution for single-monitor users and FSE games coming in August, keep tuned.

You software developers and programmers, one can create a mini tray app that automatically re-transmit these MCCS DDC commands via SetVCPFeature() API one second after every WM_DISPLAYCHANGE event. Reset 0xDC, movie mode, reset AMA, reset sharpness, reset colors, all automatically to auto-dismiss OUT OF RANGE and re-fix quality.

If you proceed with this, thank Blur Busters by opensourcing your app and credit Blur Busters groundwork if you do. You're welcome, Blur Busters longtime philosophy of open idea sharing since 2012 that most parties respect (even NVIDIA). Then that will eliminate the need for SoftMCCS. If nobody else starts creating an opensource app, I might start the needed groundwork.
do0om wrote:Yes nothing above 149hz works using display port. I Haven't tried DVI. I am confused, I though DVI was limited to 144hz.
DVI has no technological refresh rate limitation. It's simply bandwidth.

Cables are just bitpipes of pixel-per-second. Reduce the number of pixels (lower refresh) or reduce the number of bits per pixel (6bpp instead of 8bpp) and you've freed up more room for more refresh rate. So DVI can scale to even higher refresh rates, just not normally as easily as DisplayPort can.

Fortunately, two reasons which doesn't have to be combined (A) DVI has some overclock room (pixel patcher) and/or (B) the wire bit depth is reduced to 6bit. The GPU is taking over the FRC responsibility (8bit color capability is generated via GPU temporal dithering instead of monitor temporal dithering).

If DisplayPort refuses to go beyond 149Hz, try out DVI.
Notty_PT wrote:Was just curious, Chief reccomended DP. Did you try lower refresh rates like 200hz, 180hz, 165hz?
Now that 200Hz+ works by DVI, I've modified the FAQ.

DisplayPort is no longer a requirement due to 200Hz+ success reports over DVI.
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Re: BenQ UNIVERSAL 144Hz->220Hz OVERCLOCK for 1080p 144 Hz

Post by urut » 17 Jul 2019, 17:04

So i got it made to work on fullscreen too. I just need to create custom resolution with CRU not NVCP, i create 1280x1025 (1025, not 1024 so its one and only, on 1024 it didnt work i dunno why) And do the trick with softmccs and this actually works.

And ye, i got thiis made to 210hz over DVI (210hz is limit, whenever i pull out higher HZ i havent got out of range error but monitor stays black and softmccs software had a "error" and can't do anything)

I cant do a photo with my phone cuz im already using it like my 2nd monitor, but i post a screenshots :

https://imgur.com/a/zG3vhx8 <--- csgo and testufo screenshots.

Sorry for my bad english and thanks for this massive overclock guys!

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Re: BenQ UNIVERSAL 144Hz->220Hz OVERCLOCK for 1080p 144 Hz

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 17 Jul 2019, 17:43

urut wrote:And ye, i got thiis made to 210hz over DVI (210hz is limit, whenever i pull out higher HZ i havent got out of range error but monitor stays black and softmccs software had a "error" and can't do anything)
Have you tried ToastyX Pixel Patcher?

P.S. Screenshots of TestUFO frameskipping test are not adequate proof -- only photographs are definitive proof of successful overclocks because the contiguous multi-square streak is the proof itself. Any phone will work with the TestUFO frameskipping test. Just fullscreen the frameskipping test and then take a picture of it. Make sure to minimize all windows on secondary and move the TestUFO window to primary, fullscreen the Chrome browser, and then photograph.
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Re: BenQ UNIVERSAL 144Hz->220Hz OVERCLOCK for 1080p 144 Hz

Post by Notty_PT » 17 Jul 2019, 19:09

I plugged the trigger and ordered 2x Benq monitors:

- Benq XL2411p

- Benq XL2430T

Benq models are very easy to find on refurbished/2nd hand market, for cheap. The XL2411p cost 170€ and the XL2430T cost 188€. Reminding here in Portugal their price brand new is respectively 200€ and 350€ for the XL2430T (!!!!)

So in the next few days I will be doing all this testing and let you know about the results.

If I can overclock one of them to 200hz/220hz range and considering the 144hz input lag on these monitors is very low already, and IF the input lag at higher Hz is linear to the 144hz one (idk about this, only Chief can tell!) they might be input lag champs. Plus they are smaller screens (I mentioned several times how I prefer 24 to 25) with higher PPI.

Let´s see if I have any luck.

Best of all, I can return bot of them no problem.

Cya soon ;)

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