Acer Nitro XV242F (540hz TN) discussion

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petight
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Re: Acer Nitro XV242F (540hz TN) discussion

Post by petight » 29 May 2024, 15:29

forcedreg wrote:
29 May 2024, 03:25
Thanks for your thoughts about the monitor! I'm surprised about the VRB brightness since I had to use the 390hz model with VRB off because of the low brightness.
The 390hz IPS with VRB on strongest was a comfortable brightness level for me. That's where I set my monitors even without strobing etc at work.
forcedreg wrote:
29 May 2024, 03:25
How the monitor feel is it responsiv ?
i buy the asus pg248qp and send it next day back cause my mouse was feeling very slow it was not fast responding like an input lag
Yes monitor is responsive. Faster than any other monitor I have used.
Lucasre5 wrote:
29 May 2024, 10:17
I have a 2566k ... with a much lower brightness.
Very surprised you found the VRB dark. On my monitor the VRB highest setting is still as bright as having the screen at about 85 on the brightness slider with 'max brightness' turned on. I also don't use vibrance or shadow boost or anything else like that, I set the monitor to look as neutral and sRGB as I can and leave it there. Agree the Acer sharpness setting is weird, I leave that off.
Lucasre5 wrote:
29 May 2024, 11:41
By the way, how do you turn off the DSC?
DSC there's a setting in system at the bottom of the osd. When I toggle it off it goes black/restarts the display and forces it to 10bit 422 colour.
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Re: Acer Nitro XV242F (540hz TN) discussion

Post by loosem5 » 30 May 2024, 07:41

petight wrote:
29 May 2024, 15:29
forcedreg wrote:
29 May 2024, 03:25
Thanks for your thoughts about the monitor! I'm surprised about the VRB brightness since I had to use the 390hz model with VRB off because of the low brightness.
The 390hz IPS with VRB on strongest was a comfortable brightness level for me. That's where I set my monitors even without strobing etc at work.
forcedreg wrote:
29 May 2024, 03:25
How the monitor feel is it responsiv ?
i buy the asus pg248qp and send it next day back cause my mouse was feeling very slow it was not fast responding like an input lag
Yes monitor is responsive. Faster than any other monitor I have used.
Lucasre5 wrote:
29 May 2024, 10:17
I have a 2566k ... with a much lower brightness.
Very surprised you found the VRB dark. On my monitor the VRB highest setting is still as bright as having the screen at about 85 on the brightness slider with 'max brightness' turned on. I also don't use vibrance or shadow boost or anything else like that, I set the monitor to look as neutral and sRGB as I can and leave it there. Agree the Acer sharpness setting is weird, I leave that off.
Lucasre5 wrote:
29 May 2024, 11:41
By the way, how do you turn off the DSC?
DSC there's a setting in system at the bottom of the osd. When I toggle it off it goes black/restarts the display and forces it to 10bit 422 colour.
Would you be so kind to share the settings you've configured as I just copped! Thanks

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Re: Acer Nitro XV242F (540hz TN) discussion

Post by petight » 31 May 2024, 14:51

loosem5 wrote:
30 May 2024, 07:41
Would you be so kind to share the settings you've configured as I just copped! Thanks
These settings are what I've landed on:

Overdrive: Normal
Freesync: Off
Esports: On
VRB: Extreme
Ultra low latency: On
Contrast: 46
Color Mode: User
Color Space: General
Gamma: 2.4
Temperature: User
Rgain: 46
Ggain: 47
Bgain: 50
6 Axis saturate:
Red: 45
Green: 46
Blue: 46
Yellow: 45
Magenta: 45
Cyan: 46
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Re: Acer Nitro XV242F (540hz TN) discussion

Post by Lucasre5 » 01 Jun 2024, 08:54

loosem5 wrote:
30 May 2024, 07:41
petight wrote:
29 May 2024, 15:29
forcedreg wrote:
29 May 2024, 03:25
Thanks for your thoughts about the monitor! I'm surprised about the VRB brightness since I had to use the 390hz model with VRB off because of the low brightness.
The 390hz IPS with VRB on strongest was a comfortable brightness level for me. That's where I set my monitors even without strobing etc at work.
forcedreg wrote:
29 May 2024, 03:25
How the monitor feel is it responsiv ?
i buy the asus pg248qp and send it next day back cause my mouse was feeling very slow it was not fast responding like an input lag
Yes monitor is responsive. Faster than any other monitor I have used.
Lucasre5 wrote:
29 May 2024, 10:17
I have a 2566k ... with a much lower brightness.
Very surprised you found the VRB dark. On my monitor the VRB highest setting is still as bright as having the screen at about 85 on the brightness slider with 'max brightness' turned on. I also don't use vibrance or shadow boost or anything else like that, I set the monitor to look as neutral and sRGB as I can and leave it there. Agree the Acer sharpness setting is weird, I leave that off.
Lucasre5 wrote:
29 May 2024, 11:41
By the way, how do you turn off the DSC?
DSC there's a setting in system at the bottom of the osd. When I toggle it off it goes black/restarts the display and forces it to 10bit 422 colour.
I used the monitor for a while and in fact the brightness is not as low as I said with vrb activated, the conclusion is that the big difference is the black eq btween 2566k, because in bright areas the brightness continues to be good even with the vrb at the extreme, the difference is in the dark areas. I'm liking the monitor more after using it for a while, more responsive and less image duplication than the 2566k, but I miss the black eq and the zowie's sharpness, in fact competitive I think it's a good advantage.

I tested turning off the DSC and I didn't feel any difference to tell the truth, and if you look at the UFO test, the sharpness of the UFO is greatly impaired. I ended up leaving it activated. Another fact that I forgot to mention is that this panel has a strange coating, it looks grainy and you can see the pixels, something I don't see on the 2566k, I've seen some comments that the 540hz Asus is like that too

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Re: Acer Nitro XV242F (540hz TN) discussion

Post by petight » 01 Jun 2024, 11:46

Lucasre5 wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 08:54
I used the monitor for a while and in fact the brightness is not as low as I said with vrb activated, the conclusion is that the big difference is ... fact that I forgot to mention is that this panel has a strange coating, it looks grainy and you can see the pixels, something I don't see on the 2566k, I've seen some comments that the 540hz Asus is like that too
Yeah I went back to DSC turned on, I don't notice any difference and I found text can appear a little softer with it off and using 422.
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Re: Acer Nitro XV242F (540hz TN) discussion

Post by alec927 » 20 Jun 2024, 23:51

Dude, the color/gamma of xv242f is so fucked.
Only srgb mode is usable. Looks way better than other mode.
And the coating is a joke, why people on earth want that shitty coating for their games look so much blurry?
Why companies make a gaming monitor that is not glossy but matte?

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Re: Acer Nitro XV242F (540hz TN) discussion

Post by kyube » 23 Jul 2024, 10:06

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Mini TestUFO compilation of the XV242F by @hoggu

OSRTT measurements

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TestUFO:

Test Settings: 1440 px/s
Monitor Settings: Normal OD, VRB/strobing off, VRR off

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Smoothfrog:

Test Settings: 2 px/frame = ~1040-1080 px/s, screenshots from 1080p 120fps video
Monitor Settings: Normal OD, VRB/strobing off, VRR off

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Test Settings: 3 px/frame = ~1620 px/s, screenshots from 1080p 120fps video
Monitor Settings: Normal OD, VRB/strobing off, VRR off

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Test Settings: 3 px/frame = ~1620 px/s, screenshots from 1080p 120fps video
Monitor Settings: Extreme OD, VRB/strobing off, VRR off

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Test Settings: 3 px/frame = ~1620 px/s (unsure on this), screenshots from 4k 30fps video (higher quality image)
Monitor Settings: Normal OD, VRB/strobing off, VRR off

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Input lag measurements using OSLTT

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Re: Acer Nitro XV242F (540hz TN) discussion

Post by Sirius » 23 Jul 2024, 18:10

kameCS wrote:
14 Dec 2023, 02:26
I like to compare experiences to form my own opinion, for the year 2023 I bought the best competitive monitors, pg27aqn, pg27aqdm, aw2523hf, xl2566k, aw2524hf to finally use them in 25" 1300p esports format or 1440x1080 when I play csgo because I find myself more reactive and nervous, but I also have my personal approach because the majority use 1280x960 format with AAx8, I find this incomprehensible because using AA beyond x4 adds a lot of latency and this resolution is really a pixel mush
First of all, sorry for my previous comment, i absolutely didn't understand why I spoke like that wtf.
So didn't take attention of my previous comment, like you i like to form MY own opinion and never listen to these reviewers on Youtube that ALWAYS says that all screen is good while it is never the case.

I totally understand what you mean, look at my bio, i had test A LOT of monitors and i always prefer to play at 1080p on my 1440p screen...it's very bad and ugly but the feeling of my mouse and keyboard always feels better, even with a RTX 4080 Super, it's like my PC isn't powerful enough but that's clearly not the case.
Current temporary test : none | Main monitor : Acer XV272UX | I had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / MSI MAG 274QRF-QD E2 / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: Acer Nitro XV242F (540hz TN) discussion

Post by Sirius » 23 Jul 2024, 18:13

petight wrote:
28 May 2024, 16:31
So first impressions, I wasn't blown away by the strobing, I mean it's the best I've ever seen but you can still see crosstalk in the top portion of the screen at speeds 1400+ on UFO test. I was expecting that aspect to be better but from what I've seen it's no worse than the other 540hz panels. What also annoyed me a lot was that VRB locks the brightness, and it is super bright. I guess approaching 300nits, I usually use a screen around 200nits. So for me the VRB brightness was actually too much, I would have loved a pulse width setting to make the strobing stronger and reduce brightness. I ended up adjusting the colour settings and using a higher gamma to make the screen feel dimmer.

Colours - this is my first TN in like a decade. I was expecting it to be shit...and it really isn't. The colours are great. I had to fiddle with the settings for a few hours (panel was leaning warm and oversaturated) but now it looks fantastic. As good as any IPS I've owned from front on. As I said on another post it's 10bit, and if you turn off DSC you're stuck with 422 colour compression but 540hz still works.

For the money (I got it for 500 quid) it's a complete no brainer. Why would you pay twice as much to have slightly better OSD settings? 540hz feels fantastic and the strobing keeps the action clear. Oh one more thing the joystick control on mine feels so trash! 😆 Overall I give the product an 8/10, value for money I give it an 11/10. Acer are still selling the 390hz IPS for nearly £500!
Sounds interesting !
What about coating and brightness ?
It is sharp enough to not vomit ?
Current temporary test : none | Main monitor : Acer XV272UX | I had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / MSI MAG 274QRF-QD E2 / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: Acer Nitro XV242F (540hz TN) discussion

Post by Sirius » 23 Jul 2024, 18:15

Lucasre5 wrote:
29 May 2024, 10:17
petight wrote:
28 May 2024, 16:31
So first impressions, I wasn't blown away by the strobing, I mean it's the best I've ever seen but you can still see crosstalk in the top portion of the screen at speeds 1400+ on UFO test. I was expecting that aspect to be better but from what I've seen it's no worse than the other 540hz panels. What also annoyed me a lot was that VRB locks the brightness, and it is super bright. I guess approaching 300nits, I usually use a screen around 200nits. So for me the VRB brightness was actually too much, I would have loved a pulse width setting to make the strobing stronger and reduce brightness. I ended up adjusting the colour settings and using a higher gamma to make the screen feel dimmer.

Colours - this is my first TN in like a decade. I was expecting it to be shit...and it really isn't. The colours are great. I had to fiddle with the settings for a few hours (panel was leaning warm and oversaturated) but now it looks fantastic. As good as any IPS I've owned from front on. As I said on another post it's 10bit, and if you turn off DSC you're stuck with 422 colour compression but 540hz still works.

For the money (I got it for 500 quid) it's a complete no brainer. Why would you pay twice as much to have slightly better OSD settings? 540hz feels fantastic and the strobing keeps the action clear. Oh one more thing the joystick control on mine feels so trash! 😆 Overall I give the product an 8/10, value for money I give it an 11/10. Acer are still selling the 390hz IPS for nearly £500!
I have a 2566k and I picked up this 540hz Acer model a few days ago. I think brightness is a very personal thing, for me the brightness with vrb at the extreme is very low, I can't use it with the screen that dark, it's a much lower brightness than the 2566k with dyac+, but without vrb a screen has a higher brightness than 2566k. In fact, the monitor is responsive, but I found Zowie's implementations to be much superior. the black eq, color vibrance and sharpness make a lot of difference in distinguishing enemies and dark places.. the acer's super sharpness is very strange, unusable. The Acer's colors are better, but in game it's a difference that affects very little, the biggest difference is in navigation, the white is really white and not half washed like on the 2566k. I ended up keeping the 2566k and returning the Acer, because despite it really being a more responsive monitor, I didn't like the sharpness of the monitor and the Acer's implementations. Furthermore, the dayc+ at 360hz is clearer than the vrb at 540hz, with a much lower brightness.
I have the XV272UX 1440p 27 inch 270hz IPS and i absolutely agree with their "super sharpness", this brand really sucks in terms of OSD, their sharpness are always bad and feels weird.
Current temporary test : none | Main monitor : Acer XV272UX | I had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / MSI MAG 274QRF-QD E2 / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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