s1mple sucks now because of this

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pcenthusiast92
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Re: s1mple sucks now because of this

Post by pcenthusiast92 » 01 Jun 2024, 20:15

dervu wrote:
27 May 2024, 05:28
pcenthusiast92 wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:55
f1ndus wrote:
26 May 2024, 02:09
SKILLEN wrote:
25 May 2024, 17:34
f1ndus

Symptoms are similar,but not everyone have the same problem as you. I have zero problems on desktop,game menu,offline ,so its not EMI in my case.






About s1mple ,2-3 days ago i watched his stream,after 1 minute i knew he doesnt have mouse input lag .Obviously he played countless tournaments and know how mouse should feel,if he have mouse input lag he wouldnt even dare to que for FPL. I dont know about desync ,but he must have some problem,because its not normal his level to drop so much.
99% people which i know, i am with group on discord have problem also offline and in windows too. And everybody have a same problem.
- mouse floaty offline/online/windows
- desync in games - like everybody is 1 second before you, enemy extremlly fast peek no chance react
- bad hit reg, bullets are going random and weird
- screen stutter - fps games feel like 60hz 120fps but its 300fps - 240hz
these symptoms have people which i know and everybody have same problem, same source of problem and same problem to throubleshoot or fix this problem.
You are only 0,1% i know you have similiar but other problem and i really dont understand why u cant fix your problem.
We all suffer EMI thats why nobody fixed that until today.

Also adding to that list that I have Juddering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9TgNFu1l3Y&t=148s

You can see the Bruce willies clips, how blurry looks, so I'm facing that, People peek advantage me easily in shooter games, and this is also happened to MMORPG where games seems to be accelerated or boss mechanism have peek advantage too they can spot me first and I cannot react faster to move, is annoying.

input lag when pressing some keys/takes time...

is annoying.
Sorry to disappoint you, but those symptoms he mentioned about Bruce clips and moving explorer with folders (none with low resolution) are still present in perfect place where there are no symptoms like "input lag" or enemies ferrari peeking.
I quote back,I have amd system, and I have also tested 2 intel computer and problem persist, and I'm telling you I have that motion blur or called it Juddering in all monitors, in all computers, no matter what resolution I choose, what monitor hertz.

I don't have that thing "moving folders" nope I don't

But I have peek advantage, ferrari peeking + motion blur, juddering.
Also I have desync too.

So I'm talking about my reality not about peoples conclusions, I just found thanks to that guy what I am suffering from the aspect of visual too.

Also sometimes computer feel smooth and I can hear more precise players steps in games like counter strike, and suddenly I can see properly more smooth the screen, horizontally become smoother, less juddering, less motion blur.

So I kindly ask you not to say that this is not input lag, cause I have read a few old post from you in the past, and yes we have all the same sympthomps, call it input lag, dirty electricity, dsync, whatever, but we all suffer the same.

cheer and sorry for my poor grammar ^^,

agstrato
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Re: s1mple sucks now because of this

Post by agstrato » 02 Jun 2024, 07:43

pcenthusiast92 wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 20:15
dervu wrote:
27 May 2024, 05:28
pcenthusiast92 wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:55
f1ndus wrote:
26 May 2024, 02:09


99% people which i know, i am with group on discord have problem also offline and in windows too. And everybody have a same problem.
- mouse floaty offline/online/windows
- desync in games - like everybody is 1 second before you, enemy extremlly fast peek no chance react
- bad hit reg, bullets are going random and weird
- screen stutter - fps games feel like 60hz 120fps but its 300fps - 240hz
these symptoms have people which i know and everybody have same problem, same source of problem and same problem to throubleshoot or fix this problem.
You are only 0,1% i know you have similiar but other problem and i really dont understand why u cant fix your problem.
We all suffer EMI thats why nobody fixed that until today.

Also adding to that list that I have Juddering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9TgNFu1l3Y&t=148s

You can see the Bruce willies clips, how blurry looks, so I'm facing that, People peek advantage me easily in shooter games, and this is also happened to MMORPG where games seems to be accelerated or boss mechanism have peek advantage too they can spot me first and I cannot react faster to move, is annoying.

input lag when pressing some keys/takes time...

is annoying.
Sorry to disappoint you, but those symptoms he mentioned about Bruce clips and moving explorer with folders (none with low resolution) are still present in perfect place where there are no symptoms like "input lag" or enemies ferrari peeking.
I quote back,I have amd system, and I have also tested 2 intel computer and problem persist, and I'm telling you I have that motion blur or called it Juddering in all monitors, in all computers, no matter what resolution I choose, what monitor hertz.

I don't have that thing "moving folders" nope I don't

But I have peek advantage, ferrari peeking + motion blur, juddering.
Also I have desync too.

So I'm talking about my reality not about peoples conclusions, I just found thanks to that guy what I am suffering from the aspect of visual too.

Also sometimes computer feel smooth and I can hear more precise players steps in games like counter strike, and suddenly I can see properly more smooth the screen, horizontally become smoother, less juddering, less motion blur.

So I kindly ask you not to say that this is not input lag, cause I have read a few old post from you in the past, and yes we have all the same sympthomps, call it input lag, dirty electricity, dsync, whatever, but we all suffer the same.

cheer and sorry for my poor grammar ^^,
The conclusions from the guy in the video are flawed and based on nothing but assumptions. I already managed to get what he says it's not working a.k.a Intel ME and all the other things to say "Started" in Events and it makes absolutely no difference, in fact the performance is exactly the same. That youtube video doesn't mean anything either it's recorded at low framerate and we all know monitors are different so nothing there either. Boot time also doesn't matter, PCs nowadays have a lot more going on that what they had in 2014 etc. And about the screen going dark on boot, it's mostly because all manufacturers have customized splash screen for windows loading not to mention the difference between MBR and UEFI boot. Another thing to keep in mind is that if Intel ME is failing to start or malfunctioning the machine shuts down in exactly 30 minutes. Here is proof of stuff "started" :
https://postimg.cc/gallery/sDQd0f4 or https://imgur.com/a/all-running-UrkGwvL
And here is the source about Intel ME behavior when something is wrong: https://community.intel.com/t5/Processo ... -p/1203826
I understand that people want to help but spreading this type of misinformation might make others spend cash for nothing.

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Re: s1mple sucks now because of this

Post by Slender » 02 Jun 2024, 10:40

I will deliberately introduce misinformation so that people buy a USB stick for $200, this is very funny. I like how this guy tries to disprove the whole theory because he was able to run the drivers without an error.

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Re: s1mple sucks now because of this

Post by ahead » 02 Jun 2024, 11:21

First, you should understand that this "problem" existed before everyone started using USB mice or keyboards. This "problem" existed with PS/2. Please Google what PS/2 is.

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Re: s1mple sucks now because of this

Post by ahead » 02 Jun 2024, 11:23

Understanding how PS/2 works will save you a lot of time.

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Re: s1mple sucks now because of this

Post by Slender » 02 Jun 2024, 11:35

ahead wrote:
02 Jun 2024, 11:23
Understanding how PS/2 works will save you a lot of time.
usb - input
ps/2 - input
both on LPC

pcenthusiast92
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Re: s1mple sucks now because of this

Post by pcenthusiast92 » 02 Jun 2024, 11:58

agstrato wrote:
02 Jun 2024, 07:43
pcenthusiast92 wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 20:15
dervu wrote:
27 May 2024, 05:28
pcenthusiast92 wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:55



Also adding to that list that I have Juddering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9TgNFu1l3Y&t=148s

You can see the Bruce willies clips, how blurry looks, so I'm facing that, People peek advantage me easily in shooter games, and this is also happened to MMORPG where games seems to be accelerated or boss mechanism have peek advantage too they can spot me first and I cannot react faster to move, is annoying.

input lag when pressing some keys/takes time...

is annoying.
Sorry to disappoint you, but those symptoms he mentioned about Bruce clips and moving explorer with folders (none with low resolution) are still present in perfect place where there are no symptoms like "input lag" or enemies ferrari peeking.
I quote back,I have amd system, and I have also tested 2 intel computer and problem persist, and I'm telling you I have that motion blur or called it Juddering in all monitors, in all computers, no matter what resolution I choose, what monitor hertz.

I don't have that thing "moving folders" nope I don't

But I have peek advantage, ferrari peeking + motion blur, juddering.
Also I have desync too.

So I'm talking about my reality not about peoples conclusions, I just found thanks to that guy what I am suffering from the aspect of visual too.

Also sometimes computer feel smooth and I can hear more precise players steps in games like counter strike, and suddenly I can see properly more smooth the screen, horizontally become smoother, less juddering, less motion blur.

So I kindly ask you not to say that this is not input lag, cause I have read a few old post from you in the past, and yes we have all the same sympthomps, call it input lag, dirty electricity, dsync, whatever, but we all suffer the same.

cheer and sorry for my poor grammar ^^,
The conclusions from the guy in the video are flawed and based on nothing but assumptions. I already managed to get what he says it's not working a.k.a Intel ME and all the other things to say "Started" in Events and it makes absolutely no difference, in fact the performance is exactly the same. That youtube video doesn't mean anything either it's recorded at low framerate and we all know monitors are different so nothing there either. Boot time also doesn't matter, PCs nowadays have a lot more going on that what they had in 2014 etc. And about the screen going dark on boot, it's mostly because all manufacturers have customized splash screen for windows loading not to mention the difference between MBR and UEFI boot. Another thing to keep in mind is that if Intel ME is failing to start or malfunctioning the machine shuts down in exactly 30 minutes. Here is proof of stuff "started" :
https://postimg.cc/gallery/sDQd0f4 or https://imgur.com/a/all-running-UrkGwvL
And here is the source about Intel ME behavior when something is wrong: https://community.intel.com/t5/Processo ... -p/1203826
I understand that people want to help but spreading this type of misinformation might make others spend cash for nothing.
But I'm not spreading his video info, I'm not agree 100% with the guy, cause he says that to solve this you need to buy a new computer and a trusthworthy windows license <-- the windows license to me is Bs.
Cause the problem is presented on Consoles, phones, Macintosh, Linux etc,etc

I only say that, the video about the Bruce Willie is what I'm suffering in all games.
Cause I don't have a 1000fps camera to show people what my monitor is outputting

So yeah I'm not spreading miss-information, I only finally found a different way to approaching this "visual lag" cause I always say my screen has motion blur, and I couldn't show to people, now at least with this video I can show people what I feel until I can get borrow a 1000fps camera or buy one

So thanks to the Bruce Willies demo and to this guy that posted it.

Plus, having the symptoms that I already described thousand of times, input lag, delay in audio, peek advantage, people see me first, suddenly my computer become smooth If I uninstall or reinstall something, I have been on this situation since 2009

The first trending topic that ever exist on internet where all started was made in steam forums, the thread named "Cs 1.6 isn't smooth" <-- that was the most polemic thread ever made regards to dirty electricity, peek advantage, dysnc, visual lag, games aren't smooth, delay, everything started there in that thread scalating to Toms Hardware Forums, Nvidia, Github, BlurBusters etc,etc.
People doing test with light bulbs, buying expensive power conditioner, so yeah I have been in this boat since years

And the topic was super famous cause Counter Strike has been very important, in that era games like Fornite didn't exist, etc,etc.

sadly that forums only last till 2012 and it was made early in 2008-2009 , and there is not way to reach to that deleted thread anymore.

ahead
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Re: s1mple sucks now because of this

Post by ahead » 03 Jun 2024, 02:06

The Steampowered forum has existed since 2005, possibly even earlier. The topic labeled "desync" has been present since the forum began operating.

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Re: s1mple sucks now because of this

Post by agstrato » 03 Jun 2024, 07:50

pcenthusiast92 wrote:
02 Jun 2024, 11:58
agstrato wrote:
02 Jun 2024, 07:43
pcenthusiast92 wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 20:15
dervu wrote:
27 May 2024, 05:28

Sorry to disappoint you, but those symptoms he mentioned about Bruce clips and moving explorer with folders (none with low resolution) are still present in perfect place where there are no symptoms like "input lag" or enemies ferrari peeking.
I quote back,I have amd system, and I have also tested 2 intel computer and problem persist, and I'm telling you I have that motion blur or called it Juddering in all monitors, in all computers, no matter what resolution I choose, what monitor hertz.

I don't have that thing "moving folders" nope I don't

But I have peek advantage, ferrari peeking + motion blur, juddering.
Also I have desync too.

So I'm talking about my reality not about peoples conclusions, I just found thanks to that guy what I am suffering from the aspect of visual too.

Also sometimes computer feel smooth and I can hear more precise players steps in games like counter strike, and suddenly I can see properly more smooth the screen, horizontally become smoother, less juddering, less motion blur.

So I kindly ask you not to say that this is not input lag, cause I have read a few old post from you in the past, and yes we have all the same sympthomps, call it input lag, dirty electricity, dsync, whatever, but we all suffer the same.

cheer and sorry for my poor grammar ^^,
The conclusions from the guy in the video are flawed and based on nothing but assumptions. I already managed to get what he says it's not working a.k.a Intel ME and all the other things to say "Started" in Events and it makes absolutely no difference, in fact the performance is exactly the same. That youtube video doesn't mean anything either it's recorded at low framerate and we all know monitors are different so nothing there either. Boot time also doesn't matter, PCs nowadays have a lot more going on that what they had in 2014 etc. And about the screen going dark on boot, it's mostly because all manufacturers have customized splash screen for windows loading not to mention the difference between MBR and UEFI boot. Another thing to keep in mind is that if Intel ME is failing to start or malfunctioning the machine shuts down in exactly 30 minutes. Here is proof of stuff "started" :
https://postimg.cc/gallery/sDQd0f4 or https://imgur.com/a/all-running-UrkGwvL
And here is the source about Intel ME behavior when something is wrong: https://community.intel.com/t5/Processo ... -p/1203826
I understand that people want to help but spreading this type of misinformation might make others spend cash for nothing.
But I'm not spreading his video info, I'm not agree 100% with the guy, cause he says that to solve this you need to buy a new computer and a trusthworthy windows license <-- the windows license to me is Bs.
Cause the problem is presented on Consoles, phones, Macintosh, Linux etc,etc

I only say that, the video about the Bruce Willie is what I'm suffering in all games.
Cause I don't have a 1000fps camera to show people what my monitor is outputting

So yeah I'm not spreading miss-information, I only finally found a different way to approaching this "visual lag" cause I always say my screen has motion blur, and I couldn't show to people, now at least with this video I can show people what I feel until I can get borrow a 1000fps camera or buy one

So thanks to the Bruce Willies demo and to this guy that posted it.

Plus, having the symptoms that I already described thousand of times, input lag, delay in audio, peek advantage, people see me first, suddenly my computer become smooth If I uninstall or reinstall something, I have been on this situation since 2009

The first trending topic that ever exist on internet where all started was made in steam forums, the thread named "Cs 1.6 isn't smooth" <-- that was the most polemic thread ever made regards to dirty electricity, peek advantage, dysnc, visual lag, games aren't smooth, delay, everything started there in that thread scalating to Toms Hardware Forums, Nvidia, Github, BlurBusters etc,etc.
People doing test with light bulbs, buying expensive power conditioner, so yeah I have been in this boat since years

And the topic was super famous cause Counter Strike has been very important, in that era games like Fornite didn't exist, etc,etc.

sadly that forums only last till 2012 and it was made early in 2008-2009 , and there is not way to reach to that deleted thread anymore.
I'm not saying that you personally are spreading his BS. The problem here is that the more people see his stuff the more are going to believe him and waste money buying new PC and also spend 200+ on a usb installation stick from Microsoft. That's all i'm saying.

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Re: s1mple sucks now because of this

Post by donktuman » 03 Jun 2024, 12:46

ahead wrote:
03 Jun 2024, 02:06
The Steampowered forum has existed since 2005, possibly even earlier. The topic labeled "desync" has been present since the forum began operating.
this is true i remember legendary thread ''cs isnt smooth'' that had thousands of pages of replies

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