I've had input lag issues for years and I can safely say that I've done a lot of testing without a LAN cable plugged in and there is still a ton of input lag...cursed-gamer wrote: ↑04 Jun 2024, 12:59I have the same thoughts. Internet in my country is rather fast but at the expense of quality. Since one of my friends moved to big city, his game changed completely and for the first time he was complaining about hitreg etc. Before moving that was not a case at all and I was quite jealous how CS:GO works for him.agstrato wrote: ↑04 Jun 2024, 12:17Yes there is dedication but what he is showing is just old games and all the hardware is old so a 2600k is irrelevant in 2024. There is nothing in the videos that makes sence at all. It's pretty clear to me the problem lies within both Windows and our ISPs. It's too much a coincidence. Windows is poorly optimized, has shit running in background and ISPs well just fire up CS2 and look at net_connections_stats, look at all that jitter for a tiny UDP traffic. We all come say fiber is perfect but it's clear it isn't, at least when it comes to UDP traffic. BTW ever since s1mple changed house he has these issues, didn't have them before. I'm pretty sure he already tried a bunch of PCs so what's left? Yeah it's ISP. Unfortunatelly even if you fix floaty mouse (which i did) you will never fix the jitter, why do you think Valve added support for that? They know what's going on. For me it looks like packet throttling, forced or not the traffic is 100% queued. I encounter servers i don't even see the enemy and i'm dead. What i don't get is why don't ISPs just market a gaming connection where they prioritize UDP traffic for more money/month. The speed they offering is useless if stability is bad. That's my point of view.
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Re: s1mple sucks now because of this
Re: s1mple sucks now because of this
do you try disable power from your pc/monitor for 1-2 days and try it from all local (no lan, but wifi) with battery power like ups?Sandy wrote: ↑04 Jun 2024, 23:17I've had input lag issues for years and I can safely say that I've done a lot of testing without a LAN cable plugged in and there is still a ton of input lag...cursed-gamer wrote: ↑04 Jun 2024, 12:59I have the same thoughts. Internet in my country is rather fast but at the expense of quality. Since one of my friends moved to big city, his game changed completely and for the first time he was complaining about hitreg etc. Before moving that was not a case at all and I was quite jealous how CS:GO works for him.agstrato wrote: ↑04 Jun 2024, 12:17Yes there is dedication but what he is showing is just old games and all the hardware is old so a 2600k is irrelevant in 2024. There is nothing in the videos that makes sence at all. It's pretty clear to me the problem lies within both Windows and our ISPs. It's too much a coincidence. Windows is poorly optimized, has shit running in background and ISPs well just fire up CS2 and look at net_connections_stats, look at all that jitter for a tiny UDP traffic. We all come say fiber is perfect but it's clear it isn't, at least when it comes to UDP traffic. BTW ever since s1mple changed house he has these issues, didn't have them before. I'm pretty sure he already tried a bunch of PCs so what's left? Yeah it's ISP. Unfortunatelly even if you fix floaty mouse (which i did) you will never fix the jitter, why do you think Valve added support for that? They know what's going on. For me it looks like packet throttling, forced or not the traffic is 100% queued. I encounter servers i don't even see the enemy and i'm dead. What i don't get is why don't ISPs just market a gaming connection where they prioritize UDP traffic for more money/month. The speed they offering is useless if stability is bad. That's my point of view.
Re: s1mple sucks now because of this
No My computer doesn't have wifi and I don't have a UPS, but I want to say that I've found this input delay problem since the Windows XP era.Slender wrote: ↑05 Jun 2024, 17:13do you try disable power from your pc/monitor for 1-2 days and try it from all local (no lan, but wifi) with battery power like ups?Sandy wrote: ↑04 Jun 2024, 23:17I've had input lag issues for years and I can safely say that I've done a lot of testing without a LAN cable plugged in and there is still a ton of input lag...cursed-gamer wrote: ↑04 Jun 2024, 12:59I have the same thoughts. Internet in my country is rather fast but at the expense of quality. Since one of my friends moved to big city, his game changed completely and for the first time he was complaining about hitreg etc. Before moving that was not a case at all and I was quite jealous how CS:GO works for him.agstrato wrote: ↑04 Jun 2024, 12:17Yes there is dedication but what he is showing is just old games and all the hardware is old so a 2600k is irrelevant in 2024. There is nothing in the videos that makes sence at all. It's pretty clear to me the problem lies within both Windows and our ISPs. It's too much a coincidence. Windows is poorly optimized, has shit running in background and ISPs well just fire up CS2 and look at net_connections_stats, look at all that jitter for a tiny UDP traffic. We all come say fiber is perfect but it's clear it isn't, at least when it comes to UDP traffic. BTW ever since s1mple changed house he has these issues, didn't have them before. I'm pretty sure he already tried a bunch of PCs so what's left? Yeah it's ISP. Unfortunatelly even if you fix floaty mouse (which i did) you will never fix the jitter, why do you think Valve added support for that? They know what's going on. For me it looks like packet throttling, forced or not the traffic is 100% queued. I encounter servers i don't even see the enemy and i'm dead. What i don't get is why don't ISPs just market a gaming connection where they prioritize UDP traffic for more money/month. The speed they offering is useless if stability is bad. That's my point of view.
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It is a problem with the mouse sensor and mouse pad. This problem is widespread.
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MontyTheAverage wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 23:14How can it be that when it happens with controllers and also consoles? YOu got any testing to show it is what you say you are?
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Naw. I’m on controller so this ain’t itSandy wrote: ↑10 Sep 2025, 06:17I've tested it. Over the years, I've tried all sorts of computer optimization settings, swapped out multiple monitors and power supplies, and replaced countless mice. Ultimately, I discovered it was a delay in the mouse sensor algorithm. (See this link:MontyTheAverage wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 23:14How can it be that when it happens with controllers and also consoles? YOu got any testing to show it is what you say you are?
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14906)
Re: s1mple sucks now because of this
I believe that Mousepad or Surface...can cause strange things and behavior but this all has nothing with real Issue to do with what many are fight and talk and see and how random Enemy still have some very stange always Advantatage over you even with twice than your Ping and Jitter that you have...And where you feel like always delayed with your much lower Ping and still like behind time and where Hitreg just dont works the correct way or dont arrive at the time as your Enemy does. But you see this Enemy always first at your Display and on your side like but you the one who dies at the end...exact this happens or ???
Now take a look just how games works for some People and Streamers and where Game/Match works perfect and Timings just working as it should...with exact same Pings/Jitter difference and dont matter at what difference for some...
Example: You see Enemy which dont even rly look at you and point at you with his Weapon on your Side and you just click left Mouse button to shoot him and you do it twice quick but only one click gets registered at the end...meanwhile what you see on your Display ? Your Enemy fired already 2 shots and both hits which Killed you faster than the light speed...and are both perfectly registered.
Magic...
And that how Reality works for many or some of us still to these day and this very Unfair shit...
or this all changed somewhere and at some Year for some and one Day and some only then start notice the and this small difference which can even ruin everything and our feel about Skill or Fairness ? So Many Question but so less logical answers and who gonna explain this all to the detail and that we want realy hear and know `=?....who gonna even understand this all at the end rly ? no one...exactly...
and who want even to understand this all or many of us and how this all shit works and happens at the end ? cause it seems many dont even want deep dive into this all and they all think that it is just fine how it works and probably just skill issues or some ping diff shit netcode lag server shit...
but that how many really still think and are in disbelief and most living in lie or they lie to themselfs...cause its much more easier that way. way easier survive in this world...
if you make yourself to an stupid guy and act like that and follow the path that all everyone follows and herd and masses and like an sheep...but this exactly how everything works like and the sad reality we are living in right now and before it was probably to not that much different from this times...
and no one of use gonna manage change opinion of this masses and herds of sheeps and open there eyes to the truth....
edit:
but this are my very true Pain as just Human...deep inside the soul hiding somewhere and who realize this all and at this right moment and at this right now time...believe me or not. I dont gonna lie to you all about my feelings and what i rly think and experience and see...
edit2: Many will understand false and think what they read here in this long text Message...and many like: "fuck this guy...he very stupid and delusional". But im talking here about very huge disadvantage vs advantage and dont matter if its hardware or network issue related...which we will find out anyway soon and know the truth...
but this all ruins now many people and what they feel always cause of this in disadvantage but the thing which i still dont understand and myself and big question even for myself...why many dont start talk about this all and this dont become popular question ? why many are keep quit on this and even the developers who have much very much more insights and can see more things that happens behind the scene with network and internet but they all just keep quit on this all ?....its feels like they dont and should say this or talk anything about this at all and what rly happens...
why they all do this ??? ask yourself this question one time and you will dive even deeper in this all shit...
edit3:
like here an example which will blow your mind completely:
if you try to search for "input lag" or "hitreg" keyword in youtube or even google then you will find only bullshit and not so very much useful information about it and where most which makes no sense and no helps you...and if you click OPTION sort by new and date and time...same...and much more less...useless shit that you will see and find.... "which should in a normal world bring you to the truth and an fix or just something that helps in any way"...
the only videos you will find about input lag and hitreg and in this time where are people talk Russlan/half Ukralne language...and even these dont gonna help you cause they themself dont know the fix...but they understand already that there is huge problem and they bring this message in there videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgLpnY8ZP3k
but here more and big star:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nqKBFyjJkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWFZjz-Q34c
here more and ezusssss himself (very strange nickname and who call himself jesus =)?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgqLZ4kjtmU
but here even more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UreYRcYPsQA
and many people dont know SanekNoSleep the Legend who rly tried bring the Truth but he sadly or i cant find any footage more of him on Youtube and lost him...
this just onse videos of many of Russlan/Ukralnlan where people try to tell the truth...i can even show more of such and more truth ....
this just something you should think about...
edit666: i forget about a another great very Guy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ButWyQtmyko
Single.
very very great Video about all isues and the very deep dive into it and all issues.....
Now take a look just how games works for some People and Streamers and where Game/Match works perfect and Timings just working as it should...with exact same Pings/Jitter difference and dont matter at what difference for some...
Example: You see Enemy which dont even rly look at you and point at you with his Weapon on your Side and you just click left Mouse button to shoot him and you do it twice quick but only one click gets registered at the end...meanwhile what you see on your Display ? Your Enemy fired already 2 shots and both hits which Killed you faster than the light speed...and are both perfectly registered.
Magic...
And that how Reality works for many or some of us still to these day and this very Unfair shit...
or this all changed somewhere and at some Year for some and one Day and some only then start notice the and this small difference which can even ruin everything and our feel about Skill or Fairness ? So Many Question but so less logical answers and who gonna explain this all to the detail and that we want realy hear and know `=?....who gonna even understand this all at the end rly ? no one...exactly...
and who want even to understand this all or many of us and how this all shit works and happens at the end ? cause it seems many dont even want deep dive into this all and they all think that it is just fine how it works and probably just skill issues or some ping diff shit netcode lag server shit...
but that how many really still think and are in disbelief and most living in lie or they lie to themselfs...cause its much more easier that way. way easier survive in this world...
if you make yourself to an stupid guy and act like that and follow the path that all everyone follows and herd and masses and like an sheep...but this exactly how everything works like and the sad reality we are living in right now and before it was probably to not that much different from this times...
and no one of use gonna manage change opinion of this masses and herds of sheeps and open there eyes to the truth....
edit:
but this are my very true Pain as just Human...deep inside the soul hiding somewhere and who realize this all and at this right moment and at this right now time...believe me or not. I dont gonna lie to you all about my feelings and what i rly think and experience and see...
edit2: Many will understand false and think what they read here in this long text Message...and many like: "fuck this guy...he very stupid and delusional". But im talking here about very huge disadvantage vs advantage and dont matter if its hardware or network issue related...which we will find out anyway soon and know the truth...
but this all ruins now many people and what they feel always cause of this in disadvantage but the thing which i still dont understand and myself and big question even for myself...why many dont start talk about this all and this dont become popular question ? why many are keep quit on this and even the developers who have much very much more insights and can see more things that happens behind the scene with network and internet but they all just keep quit on this all ?....its feels like they dont and should say this or talk anything about this at all and what rly happens...
why they all do this ??? ask yourself this question one time and you will dive even deeper in this all shit...
edit3:
like here an example which will blow your mind completely:
if you try to search for "input lag" or "hitreg" keyword in youtube or even google then you will find only bullshit and not so very much useful information about it and where most which makes no sense and no helps you...and if you click OPTION sort by new and date and time...same...and much more less...useless shit that you will see and find.... "which should in a normal world bring you to the truth and an fix or just something that helps in any way"...
the only videos you will find about input lag and hitreg and in this time where are people talk Russlan/half Ukralne language...and even these dont gonna help you cause they themself dont know the fix...but they understand already that there is huge problem and they bring this message in there videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgLpnY8ZP3k
but here more and big star:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nqKBFyjJkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWFZjz-Q34c
here more and ezusssss himself (very strange nickname and who call himself jesus =)?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgqLZ4kjtmU
but here even more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UreYRcYPsQA
and many people dont know SanekNoSleep the Legend who rly tried bring the Truth but he sadly or i cant find any footage more of him on Youtube and lost him...
this just onse videos of many of Russlan/Ukralnlan where people try to tell the truth...i can even show more of such and more truth ....
this just something you should think about...
edit666: i forget about a another great very Guy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ButWyQtmyko
Single.
very very great Video about all isues and the very deep dive into it and all issues.....
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Re: s1mple sucks now because of this
If You want know why I like those all Guys and Youtube Clips and everyone of them ? Cause they find there way and understand what many will never understand in this World and many of this guys understand it at already much younger age than even me I do and probably know more...That the most crazy thing.
I only hope that there will be soon more of such People like this in this World....cause that only thing that can save us all rly and this whole world form...
I only hope that there will be soon more of such People like this in this World....cause that only thing that can save us all rly and this whole world form...
