Hi, ive been trying to track down some frametime spikes ive been having recently, on both browser and games. they seemingly appear as slight jolts or jitters in camera panning, its like the image jitters/jolts to the direction of the pan but that snaps back to normal. ( hard to explain and mostly happens in browser, or is less noticable in games, might be becuase of higher fps and or gsync,(dell g2724d)). After installing a new windows install the graphs on Vsynctester are alot smoother in comparison (still subtle spikes but i think that is normal?) i also tried the TestUFO "Compare Frame Rates:Video game motion" and anything under 60 (still happens at 60 but less noticable, which is still quite noticable however) causes the panning to look like its vibrating (again hard to explain) is this expected due to bloat over time? and is there any way that isnt extremely time consuming to try to diagnose? my old install is a couple years old, and i dont really want to migrate from it because of saved passwords and having to reinstall all apps. But if there is a way to migrate all my saved information easily im happy to do so, (although i dont want any lingering registry edits because thats what im suspecting is causing this)
My old install is on a sata 860 evo and my newer one is on a nvme western digital drive, which is newer than the 860. I am also using two monitors.
I added screenshots of both framegraphs on Vsynctester, the smoother is on the newer install and the old is the bumpier one, the spike at the end of the newer install is from me screenshotting but also did happen on its own a couple times as i was trying to screenshot.
Thanks alot for any input, ill try to neaten this up as ive just typed this from the top of my head really.
Frametime spikes are worse On Old Vs Fresh install of windows.
Re: Frametime spikes are worse On Old Vs Fresh install of windows.
stop overclocking and revert to stock bios settings.
oh and mismatched monitor refresh rates can lead to jitter in desktop use, depending on windows release
oh and mismatched monitor refresh rates can lead to jitter in desktop use, depending on windows release
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Re: Frametime spikes are worse On Old Vs Fresh install of windows.
I dont have any current OCs active, and my BIOS settings are the same for both drives, but ill also try to use optimized defaults when testing again. my monitors are both set to 120 hz, albeit slight differences on each of them (of like 0.1/0.01 hertz) I did enable Freesync on my second monitor because of VRR and maybe the displays getting confused on where to activate Gsync, ill have to test it On and off again as i cannot remember if it made a difference. but im sure it did
Re: Frametime spikes are worse On Old Vs Fresh install of windows.
don't try optimized defaults.benjji1 wrote: ↑08 Jun 2024, 08:26I dont have any current OCs active, and my BIOS settings are the same for both drives, but ill also try to use optimized defaults when testing again. my monitors are both set to 120 hz, albeit slight differences on each of them (of like 0.1/0.01 hertz) I did enable Freesync on my second monitor because of VRR and maybe the displays getting confused on where to activate Gsync, ill have to test it On and off again as i cannot remember if it made a difference. but im sure it did
try making a custom resolution in cru with exact or exact reduced timing profile and set it to 120hz.
disable freesync while in desktop.
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Re: Frametime spikes are worse On Old Vs Fresh install of windows.
The settings for my BIOS (MSI B450 tomahawk max) only has "optimized" default to reset to, and for CRU i have messed with it in the past. Could that cause the frametime differences? since i never used it on that fresh install. I have uninstalled both monitors in device manager, updated drivers, and ran the reset within the CRU install folder, so i dont think they would still be there. And as for freesync i just tried that (disabling in NV control panel) and it made no difference, i didnt turn off the freesync on the monitor however since it was also on when i went to the fresher install.
Is there anything else i could try? thanks for taking the time to help me so far, i would be lost on how to approach the situation
Re: Frametime spikes are worse On Old Vs Fresh install of windows.
I did install the "newer" install about a month or two ago originally, since i didnt want to take the time to reconfigure my windows install to be similar to how it was previously. So it should be a version of windows or two back, could that also contribute to this? im increasingly leaning towards just going through the effort to fully switch over, since it seems it would be less hastle to do so than trying to figure out what is causing this. Is there any way I could perhaps migrate some of my previous install to the new one? like taking all documents, saved windows settings and cached passwords, pretty much everything but registry edits? so the registy is just a base windows? since i think that some rogue edit ive made without full knowledge on the consequences couple years ago, or tried to run an optimisation program (I do not remember if i did but is likey) i have repaired the install previously, would any of those registry edits ir similar changes been removed?
