This Is How I Fixed*(asterik!) My Own Input Lag [Update #3]

[Riggedinho]

Mr. Chief Blur Buster,

I admire you for the work you have done and continue to do for this forum, but don't you think (with all due respect) that you should be a little more vigilant about posts that completely discredit the cause of research in the computer field?

especially the "latency" section, these people seem more like wizards who want to damage people's computers than anything else, or give hope to people who despair of this problem through a bunch of completely meaningless manipulations.

Sometimes it gets crazier and crazier, just like this topic ...

Please excuse my frankness.

[Chief Blur Buster]

Mr. Chief Blur Buster,

I admire you for the work you have done and continue to do for this forum, but don't you think (with all due respect) that you should be a little more vigilant about posts that completely discredit the cause of research in the computer field?

especially the "latency" section, these people seem more like wizards who want to damage people's computers than anything else, or give hope to people who despair of this problem through a bunch of completely meaningless manipulations.

Sometimes it gets crazier and crazier, just like this topic ...

Please excuse my frankness.

Remember the forum part is more of a hobby side to the busienss that doesn't even pay for the operation of its own website (the ads don't earn much). As a hobby turned business, the forum was started back in the hobby era, and still mostly hobby (the hours of time spent in the forum is unpaid, even for me, this guy).

Also, it a lose-lose battle, almost by now.

For example, I just recently posted:

In other areas, there's a need for scientific proof of a lot of the Blur Busters initiatives but EMI is a real tough one given it overlaps BOTH
...the Ph.D professionals (there are positions at NVIDIA semiconductor design that has EMI disciplines too!)
*AND* the conspiracy tinfoilhattery
*AND* lots of false-positive
*AND* lots of false-negative
Both EMI placebo and EMI non-placebos galore.
It's very easy for forum to torpedo/derail/threadrap on EMI because of this, so often scares away educated people.
But if I try to ban too many people, I get labelled as the villian. So lose-lose.

This is just one example of many rock-and-hard-place situations, especially with the boom of polarized negativity in the last few years.

So let me segue this into a request for volunteers.

I want to help! How can I help?
Want to help?
Please help me by spending 15 minutes a day clicking these buttons on problem posts for me:

We had more people doing this, but now we're short on voluteers! HELP!

Interested In Helping Moderate This Forum?
Yes, we are accepting volunteer moderator applications -- send me a PM or contact me at www.blurbusters.com/contact.
Make sure you are prepared to send me your social media CV (a quick vetting) + you already have experience moderating (let me review what you're currently actively moderating). It's a good mention for anything you may do in the gaming field, that you helped Blur Busters.

Chicken and egg factor: The volunteers smart enough to understand Blur Busters topics, are often employed in full time jobs and don't have time to help volutneer. The chicken and egg of such a niche highly technical forum...

I may make a global announcement about this soon.

[Riggedinho]

Hello Chief Blur Buster,


I didn't know about this tab, but I'll try to use it in the future to make things easier for you.


Despite the fact that your site and forum are not very profitable, I really wanted to salute your work.

People don't realize it, but this forum is the only one to cover so many different subjects in this field from a technical point of view. We must recognize this and encourage you.

[ManWhoSoldTheWorld]

100% understandable, Chief!
- I'll do my part!

This forum is amazing in the way it allows for both scientific and recreational inputs. These days it should be natural for people to absorb all information with a little bit of skepticism and to not take it all too literally or seriously. I knew two guys who got taken away from us by depression caused by losing the ability to perform at their best level in competitive gaming, and I'm sure many of us know of similar fates - The topics discussed here are with other words really important to many people, and an obsession to some. Blur Busters provide a platform where we can explore, share, and learn. We must take some responsibility in maintaining it.

Thank you to all the volunteers in Blur Busters and for everyone who takes the time to share their thoughts and experiences!
Love this forum <3

[Riggedinho]

@ManWhoSoldTheWorld

A very fair and wise comment

With septiscism and above all with discernment, but septiscism and discernment are not mutually exclusive.


It's a pity that performance problems (most certainly linked to a latency problem) got the better of your friends ... Never give up! (The history of our lives has proven this indeniably over the last few years (only the most aware people will understand this) ).

Every problem has a solution, and the solution requires curiosity and discernment.

[Chief Blur Buster]

For those who sent me PM's

Reading my moderation inbox, I've had requests that this thread be reclassified. But it's hard.

I'm leaving this thread as-is.

But I've renamed this thread to try to reduce a bit of confusion amongst non-English speakers who didn't notice the asterik, and "My" into "My Own". We have 170+ countries visiting these forums, with heavy use of Google Translate that mungles up the technospeak.

A different part of forum is more heavily moderated -- "The Laboratory" section is the true more-scientific section (3/4ths down the forums.blurbusters.com page), but this is NOT one of the Laboratory forums, and the general consumer Lag forum isn't intended to be a scientific-lag-discussion area.

By that nature, (certain amounts of) lag speculation is unfortunately defacto permitted in this area, especially by people who's at least found their unique solutions to their own unique lag problems, even if not reproducible by others.

I also edited the Lag forum section description to clarify:

Input Lag / Display Lag / Network Lag
Everything about latency. This section is mainly user/consumer discussion. (Peer-reviewed scientific discussion should go in Laboratory section). Tips, mouse lag, display lag, game engine lag, network lag, whole input lag chain, VSYNC OFF vs VSYNC ON, and more! Input Lag Articles on Blur Busters.

There's the never-ending disagreement between the scientific types and non-scientific types. It's just the way it is. At least we're not Facebook. That's a win in my book.

Carry on; but Be Nice (#1 numero uno forum rule!) and ALWAYS respect the ones doing science.

[Foul Play]

Hi Chief, can you delete this thread since I cannot myself?

I fixed it now by using a gaming card instead of a professional card.

Turns out ether the professional card has ton of CPU overhead or something or high temps (it's thermal throttling to 3060/3060 ti performance) so professional card is causing the "inputs" to be slow. I don't know what fully caused the slow "inputs"/high rendertimes/frametimes etc.

Cheers.

[Slender]

Hi Chief, can you delete this thread since I cannot myself?

I fixed it now by using a gaming card instead of a professional card.

Turns out ether the professional card has ton of CPU overhead or something or high temps (it's thermal throttling to 3060/3060 ti performance) so professional card is causing the "inputs" to be slow. I don't know what fully caused the slow "inputs"/high rendertimes/frametimes etc.

Cheers.

you mean quadro vs gtx / rtx ?

[jassine]

is the issue gone ? input lag / hit reg ?

[JimCarry]

UPDATE #3:

Turns out that TPM's default blocked command list is my problem. Deleted the default blocked command list and now games and system feel like 240Hz and barely any hit-reg issues on Windows 11 Home.

Now I need to get gud again because for 7 years I've had laggy/input delay/hit-reg issues.

i dont understand anything,can you explain for a stupid person.