My experience with all sorts of Problems regularly mentioned here.

[nannii]

I bought it, and unfortunately it did not help in my case.

[ChristophSmaul1337]

Hello everybody.

I've been asked by a few people to update you on my situation.

As I've expected, nothing has changed so far and everything still feels great. It's exactly the same, it never changes. It has been 1 month, 1 week and a couple of days. Everyting still good.

Can you mention your exact name of the PSU you bought?

Corsair Hx1200 1200W

As OP stated, numerous times, don't rush into buying this unit or at least make sure that a good return policy comes with it.

Thank you. Exactly this.

I bought it, and unfortunately it did not help in my case.

Damn, I'm sorry to hear that. Good luck in your further attempts.

[yqX]

I recently purchased the same power supply as you, but it didn't seem to work for me.
You mentioned on a previous page that you have power limiting turned on. Could you elaborate on that setting?

[ChristophSmaul1337]

You mentioned on a previous page that you have power limiting turned on. Could you elaborate on that setting?

After figuring out that the new PSU basically solved the problem, I wanted to test for what exactly was happening and if I could find a correlation between PSUs and the problem. I have some PSUs laying around here so I just went and tested these with different hardware. As I mentioned in a different post, PSUs can come in a "multi-rail" configuration where they theoretically can output, let's say 550W across the 12V rails, but it can't draw that amount of power continuously from all the rails. I have one at hand here, so I'll use it as an example. It's a beQuiet 700W unit, and it has 2 12V rails. 12V1 can provide 36A and includes the 24-pin power, storages and one of two PCIe (GPU) connectors. The 12V2 rail can provide 30A and supplies the CPU EPS 8-pin and the second PCIE (GPU) connector. You can easily identify this by looking at the PSU label. If it just says "12V" it's a single-rail unit, and if it says "12V1", "12V2" etc. it's a multirail unit. The rail splittings can be found in the handbook or online.

Now, while my PC at worst case draws at most 600W, and the PSU is a 700W part, you would think that i could just plug in everything and call it a day. However, this won't work as this would overload one of the 12V rails. My GPU is a 300W part, it has 2x 8-pin connectors. Let's say, I use the pigtail on one of these connectors (don't do this!) and used it on the 12V2 rail, plugging it into the second position on the PSU. As stated before, the 12V2 rail is responsible for the CPU power and one of the GPU connectors. It can output 30A (30A*12V=360W), and the GPU is already a 300W part. Because we used only one cable to the GPU with the pigtail in our imaginary scenario, this connector alone already has to provide 300W worst-case. This leaves only 60W for the CPU before the 12V2 rail would be overloaded.

You can probably see where this is going. In order to prevent overloading the PSU now, I could either reduce the power limit on the GPU, set a power limit for the CPU or place the GPU connector on the 12V1 rail. In this imaginary case, I would go into the BIOS and punch in a 60W limit.

When using the 12V1 rail for the GPU, this would cause a load of 300W (GPU) plus another 75W for the 24-pin (worst-case) and 50W for the storage devices, fans and so on (worst-case), equating to 425W worst-case. This is still within the specification of 432W (36A*12V), while leaving the 12V2 for only the CPU, giving it 360W (30A*12V) of headroom. If I was really tedious, I could set a 360W limit in the BIOS, but as this CPU would probably return to sand in a nanosecond if it pushed that amount of current throught it, I would leave the power limit to unlimited (4096W), as the CPU will never reach 360W anyways.

For all the PSUs tested, I did the math beforehand and calculated if the 12V rails would be overloaded or not. If they were, I imposed the proper power limits. This was done in the BIOS, and on my MSI BIOS this is just called "Long Duration Power Limit (PL1)" and "Short Duration Power Limit (PL2)". I simply set these to the same value according to the PSU used. Make sure you're not using the "Current Limit" in the BIOS. This current limit is applied on the VRM output side, so if you punch in, let's say 30A here, it will limit the CPU to 30A at its usual operating voltage, let's say 1.2V, giving it only 36W to work with.

On my current PSU, the 1200W one, there is a switch on the back set to single-rail mode, essentially providing 100A on the 12V rail. I therefore have the power limits unlocked (4096W) on the CPU, and I also don't power-limit the GPU any more than what the stock settings would do.

It's a good idea for anybody reading this to have a quick glance at their PSU's label, figure out if it's single or multi rail, and if it's multi-rail quickly check for the rail splittings and do a quick calculation to see if one rail could get overloaded under a worst-case scenario where every component is used to its full potential. The TDPs for CPUs and GPUs aren't a direct power specification, but they come close enough so just use this. For CPUs, Intel and AMD have a database of all their CPUs which lists their TDPs. GPU TDPs can be looked up on TechPowerUp GPU database or similar sites. Labels on PSUs usually give amps, so you can either convert your PSUs amps to watts by multiplying the specified amps by 12, or you can convert your CPU/GPU TDP to amps by dividing TDP by 12.

[The Malpractice]

I have ordered the same PSU - Corsair HX1200. I face the same problems as the OP. Did everything. I have two PCs, one with 13900k and 4090, other with a 5950x and a 3080Ti. Both suffer the same problem. Changed ISPs to no help. Ive done almost everything to fix this issue but it doesnt get fixed. Its been years now since im plagued with this problem and i have basically stopped playing online now coz its useless and time consuming and frustrating to play like this ( Superhuman reflexes, fire faster ) Changed monitors, i have 3 monitors, i usually play on 360hz. The other is OLED 175hz, that too doesnt help. Third one is 2K 240hz, same scene there.
Basically ive done everything, spent huge amounts of money on things i didnt need to fix this problem.
So i ordered this HX1200, i have slim hopes that it will fix this issue, if it doesn not i will use this PSU for a future build, so yeah...try not getting my money wasted as there is no return policy here in my country.

[Z3CrosS]

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[themagic]

I have ordered the same PSU - Corsair HX1200. I face the same problems as the OP. Did everything. I have two PCs, one with 13900k and 4090, other with a 5950x and a 3080Ti. Both suffer the same problem. Changed ISPs to no help. Ive done almost everything to fix this issue but it doesnt get fixed. Its been years now since im plagued with this problem and i have basically stopped playing online now coz its useless and time consuming and frustrating to play like this ( Superhuman reflexes, fire faster ) Changed monitors, i have 3 monitors, i usually play on 360hz. The other is OLED 175hz, that too doesnt help. Third one is 2K 240hz, same scene there.
Basically ive done everything, spent huge amounts of money on things i didnt need to fix this problem.
So i ordered this HX1200, i have slim hopes that it will fix this issue, if it doesn not i will use this PSU for a future build, so yeah...try not getting my money wasted as there is no return policy here in my country.

"Did everything" no, you don't, and im affraid new PSU will not help
I assume you play your "software" - games on Bios? But i think it's impossible, so i think you use 5$ or Win keys "on sales" by ordering it from "trusted" vendors. Yeah, Windows its "Just" operation system which configueres whole hardware and creates configuration from the start on very first installation. And Key it's just numbers and words i guess.
If new PSU would'nt help, you can leave it for your brand new configuration, and next time use Windows Box Retail bought directly from Microsoft only, and use Usb stick from package on the very first hardware installation with minimalistic setup(without any ARGB controllers).

Damn dude.

You believe what you say youtself ? there guys who suffer issues for many years and probably of them dont had 5$ WIN KEYS. this all problem started even back with windows 7.


so wtf you still talk about windows license keys ? how you come to this ? you can explain more about this ? i mean i dont want say that you wrong and everything can happen but can you pls explain how windows activation keys has something with all this to do ? some logic or just something you can tell more about this all ???

cause i saw already many post of you about win key and licenses but i still dont get it...how this all connected with the issues which many players experience in online gaming and feel all this disadvantages or cant play more like normal humans ? from bad weird hitregs to weird input lag and random timings...pls explain how this all connected with what you say.

if you rly into this topic then you gonna understand about what im talking.

[ChristophSmaul1337]

I have ordered the same PSU - Corsair HX1200. I face the same problems as the OP. Did everything. [...] try not getting my money wasted as there is no return policy here in my country.

Good luck mate. I really hope it does something for you, although I'm not confident it'll do anything at all. But, considering your computers are super high-end, I don't think it's a bad idea to invest in a quality PSU in the first place. These great components deserve a high quality device. So even if it doesn't fix the problem, in my opinion it's not a waste of money. To find a tinly silver lining. Not having a return policy certainly is strange.

If new PSU would'nt help, you can leave it for your brand new configuration, and next time use Windows Box Retail bought directly from Microsoft only, and use Usb stick from package on the very first hardware installation with minimalistic setup(without any ARGB controllers).

Damn dude.

You believe what you say youtself ? there guys who suffer issues for many years and probably of them dont had 5$ WIN KEYS. this all problem started even back with windows 7.

I feel like this discussion is a little bit futile, innit? If Windows was to blame, millions of people would have this problem all the time and there would be a HUGE outrage about it. With how aggressively these third party key shops, where you can buy a Windows license for a few bucks, are being promoted on YouTube at times you'd think at least a few hundred thousand if not millions of users would be on such a "key". I'm not convinced that everybody who's on such a key has these issues. To go further into this logic, if you download Windows 10, or 11, from Microsoft themselves, their very own website, you can install it on any computer and use it without even activating it. It's an almost fully-functional OS that lacks the ability to customize some settings when not activated. A few friends, who don't have any problems whatsoever, play on a non-activated Windows and in every recording, the watermark "Activate Windows" is visible. Heck, even I'm on a 5€ Windows 10 key and - after replacing the PSU - everything is exactly how it should be now.

What drives this OS-thing home for me is that you can easily and trivially test for this by yourself. We're in a lucky position that Windows now has great competition in terms of gaming. Gaming on Linux isn't a niche thing anymore and it's getting more and more common. Many games on Steam run natively on Linux, without needing any "workarounds" or similar stuff. Simply install Linux, install steam, download a game and play it. Counter-Strike is a good example and it also just happens to be a perfect game to test on if you're still suffering from problems, as it has a decent netcode. If issues are still present on Linux, it's very likely that problems are not going to stem from the OS. If you find yourself with perfect gameplay on Linux but not on Windows, you might be onto something and there might be incentive to investigate further.

[themagic]

I have ordered the same PSU - Corsair HX1200. I face the same problems as the OP. Did everything. [...] try not getting my money wasted as there is no return policy here in my country.

Good luck mate. I really hope it does something for you, although I'm not confident it'll do anything at all. But, considering your computers are super high-end, I don't think it's a bad idea to invest in a quality PSU in the first place. These great components deserve a high quality device. So even if it doesn't fix the problem, in my opinion it's not a waste of money. To find a tinly silver lining. Not having a return policy certainly is strange.

If new PSU would'nt help, you can leave it for your brand new configuration, and next time use Windows Box Retail bought directly from Microsoft only, and use Usb stick from package on the very first hardware installation with minimalistic setup(without any ARGB controllers).

Damn dude.

You believe what you say youtself ? there guys who suffer issues for many years and probably of them dont had 5$ WIN KEYS. this all problem started even back with windows 7.

I feel like this discussion is a little bit futile, innit? If Windows was to blame, millions of people would have this problem all the time and there would be a HUGE outrage about it. With how aggressively these third party key shops, where you can buy a Windows license for a few bucks, are being promoted on YouTube at times you'd think at least a few hundred thousand if not millions of users would be on such a "key". I'm not convinced that everybody who's on such a key has these issues. To go further into this logic, if you download Windows 10, or 11, from Microsoft themselves, their very own website, you can install it on any computer and use it without even activating it. It's an almost fully-functional OS that lacks the ability to customize some settings when not activated. A few friends, who don't have any problems whatsoever, play on a non-activated Windows and in every recording, the watermark "Activate Windows" is visible. Heck, even I'm on a 5€ Windows 10 key and - after replacing the PSU - everything is exactly how it should be now.

What drives this OS-thing home for me is that you can easily and trivially test for this by yourself. We're in a lucky position that Windows now has great competition in terms of gaming. Gaming on Linux isn't a niche thing anymore and it's getting more and more common. Many games on Steam run natively on Linux, without needing any "workarounds" or similar stuff. Simply install Linux, install steam, download a game and play it. Counter-Strike is a good example and it also just happens to be a perfect game to test on if you're still suffering from problems, as it has a decent netcode. If issues are still present on Linux, it's very likely that problems are not going to stem from the OS. If you find yourself with perfect gameplay on Linux but not on Windows, you might be onto something and there might be incentive to investigate further.

this the logic i wish to see more on this forum.
you completely right.

[Slender]

I have ordered the same PSU - Corsair HX1200. I face the same problems as the OP. Did everything. [...] try not getting my money wasted as there is no return policy here in my country.

Good luck mate. I really hope it does something for you, although I'm not confident it'll do anything at all. But, considering your computers are super high-end, I don't think it's a bad idea to invest in a quality PSU in the first place. These great components deserve a high quality device. So even if it doesn't fix the problem, in my opinion it's not a waste of money. To find a tinly silver lining. Not having a return policy certainly is strange.

If new PSU would'nt help, you can leave it for your brand new configuration, and next time use Windows Box Retail bought directly from Microsoft only, and use Usb stick from package on the very first hardware installation with minimalistic setup(without any ARGB controllers).

Damn dude.

You believe what you say youtself ? there guys who suffer issues for many years and probably of them dont had 5$ WIN KEYS. this all problem started even back with windows 7.

I feel like this discussion is a little bit futile, innit? If Windows was to blame, millions of people would have this problem all the time and there would be a HUGE outrage about it. With how aggressively these third party key shops, where you can buy a Windows license for a few bucks, are being promoted on YouTube at times you'd think at least a few hundred thousand if not millions of users would be on such a "key". I'm not convinced that everybody who's on such a key has these issues. To go further into this logic, if you download Windows 10, or 11, from Microsoft themselves, their very own website, you can install it on any computer and use it without even activating it. It's an almost fully-functional OS that lacks the ability to customize some settings when not activated. A few friends, who don't have any problems whatsoever, play on a non-activated Windows and in every recording, the watermark "Activate Windows" is visible. Heck, even I'm on a 5€ Windows 10 key and - after replacing the PSU - everything is exactly how it should be now.

What drives this OS-thing home for me is that you can easily and trivially test for this by yourself. We're in a lucky position that Windows now has great competition in terms of gaming. Gaming on Linux isn't a niche thing anymore and it's getting more and more common. Many games on Steam run natively on Linux, without needing any "workarounds" or similar stuff. Simply install Linux, install steam, download a game and play it. Counter-Strike is a good example and it also just happens to be a perfect game to test on if you're still suffering from problems, as it has a decent netcode. If issues are still present on Linux, it's very likely that problems are not going to stem from the OS. If you find yourself with perfect gameplay on Linux but not on Windows, you might be onto something and there might be incentive to investigate further.

the only thing that doesn't add up here is the deterioration of lod, flickering and pop-in textures.
There is absolutely no solution to this, but I think that this has nothing to do with smoothness, although there may be one root.
The idea with a license key is the craziest idea that has ever been on this forum. For some reason, the dude thinks that something inside the PC “does not start” or is not activated, but this is nonsense.
If it were right, MS would make billions of trillions of dollars because everyone would know that the license will make your PC "healthy".
The only thing I agree with him on is that the problem may be inside the PC components.
From a ton of messages, I saw how two people solved the problem with image blur, bad lod, pop in, by reinstalling windows.
In one case, a person installed a cropped pirated win10 home, in another case it was an MCT installation, through another person’s PC with a “licensed system”.