Emi issues are more common than you think

Separate area for niche lag issues including unexpected causes and/or electromagnetic interference (ECC = retransmits = lag). Interference (EMI, EMF) of all kinds (wired, wireless, external, internal, environment, bad component) can cause error-correction latencies like a bad modem connection. Troubleshooting may require university degree. Your lag issue is likely not EMI. Please read this before entering sub-forum.
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This subforum is for advanced users only. This separate area is for niche or unexpected lag issues such as electromagnetic interference (EMI, EMF, electrical, radiofrequency, etc). Interference of all kinds (wired, wireless, external, internal, environment, bad component) can cause error-correction (ECC) latencies like a bad modem connection, except internally in a circuit. ECC = retransmits = lag. Troubleshooting may require university degree. Your lag issue is likely not EMI.
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Heimz0r
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Re: Emi issues are more common than you think

Post by Heimz0r » 22 Aug 2022, 16:02

Mugabi wrote:
22 Aug 2022, 00:23
Unfortunate but needed update: lag returned after 5-7 days, progressively building up until it became vivid. Pc improvement after the mobo and psu upgrade went from 90% better to 20% better, and it looks like it’s getting worse and worse. So far 4 locations tried with no change, power generator didn’t do a thing, brand new mobo + psu made the biggest difference at +90% first week or so then it became SHYTE again. Now I get why ppl say it’s truly unfixable, simply makes no sense. Better move on.
damn sucks to hear....exactly the same thing happened to me whenever I bought a new mainboard. It's just impossible to figure this issue out. My next and last step will be to build a completely new system from scratch with everything being brand new (even monitors and cables) and I will try to get as much stuff wireless as I can.

Mugabi
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Re: Emi issues are more common than you think

Post by Mugabi » 23 Aug 2022, 02:06

Heimz0r wrote:
22 Aug 2022, 16:02
Mugabi wrote:
22 Aug 2022, 00:23
Unfortunate but needed update: lag returned after 5-7 days, progressively building up until it became vivid. Pc improvement after the mobo and psu upgrade went from 90% better to 20% better, and it looks like it’s getting worse and worse. So far 4 locations tried with no change, power generator didn’t do a thing, brand new mobo + psu made the biggest difference at +90% first week or so then it became SHYTE again. Now I get why ppl say it’s truly unfixable, simply makes no sense. Better move on.
damn sucks to hear....exactly the same thing happened to me whenever I bought a new mainboard. It's just impossible to figure this issue out. My next and last step will be to build a completely new system from scratch with everything being brand new (even monitors and cables) and I will try to get as much stuff wireless as I can.
Yes hopefully bro, good luck on that. I think im done with this, I’ll be waiting for a big new fix that might come out in 5 years from now otherwise I have tried all fixes and they all don’t work. Buying a top tier pc for this issue to come back again is a big gamble imo

Heimz0r
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Re: Emi issues are more common than you think

Post by Heimz0r » 23 Aug 2022, 07:48

Mugabi wrote:
23 Aug 2022, 02:06
Heimz0r wrote:
22 Aug 2022, 16:02
Mugabi wrote:
22 Aug 2022, 00:23
Unfortunate but needed update: lag returned after 5-7 days, progressively building up until it became vivid. Pc improvement after the mobo and psu upgrade went from 90% better to 20% better, and it looks like it’s getting worse and worse. So far 4 locations tried with no change, power generator didn’t do a thing, brand new mobo + psu made the biggest difference at +90% first week or so then it became SHYTE again. Now I get why ppl say it’s truly unfixable, simply makes no sense. Better move on.
damn sucks to hear....exactly the same thing happened to me whenever I bought a new mainboard. It's just impossible to figure this issue out. My next and last step will be to build a completely new system from scratch with everything being brand new (even monitors and cables) and I will try to get as much stuff wireless as I can.
Yes hopefully bro, good luck on that. I think im done with this, I’ll be waiting for a big new fix that might come out in 5 years from now otherwise I have tried all fixes and they all don’t work. Buying a top tier pc for this issue to come back again is a big gamble imo
Yeah it's a huge gamble. Fortunately in Germany you can return everything you buy online for 14 days so I could return it at least...

Are consoles working fine for you or are they also affected by the issue?

assombrosso
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Re: Emi issues are more common than you think

Post by assombrosso » 23 Aug 2022, 15:32

Heimz0r wrote:
23 Aug 2022, 07:48
Mugabi wrote:
23 Aug 2022, 02:06
Heimz0r wrote:
22 Aug 2022, 16:02
Mugabi wrote:
22 Aug 2022, 00:23
Unfortunate but needed update: lag returned after 5-7 days, progressively building up until it became vivid. Pc improvement after the mobo and psu upgrade went from 90% better to 20% better, and it looks like it’s getting worse and worse. So far 4 locations tried with no change, power generator didn’t do a thing, brand new mobo + psu made the biggest difference at +90% first week or so then it became SHYTE again. Now I get why ppl say it’s truly unfixable, simply makes no sense. Better move on.
damn sucks to hear....exactly the same thing happened to me whenever I bought a new mainboard. It's just impossible to figure this issue out. My next and last step will be to build a completely new system from scratch with everything being brand new (even monitors and cables) and I will try to get as much stuff wireless as I can.
Yes hopefully bro, good luck on that. I think im done with this, I’ll be waiting for a big new fix that might come out in 5 years from now otherwise I have tried all fixes and they all don’t work. Buying a top tier pc for this issue to come back again is a big gamble imo
Yeah it's a huge gamble. Fortunately in Germany you can return everything you buy online for 14 days so I could return it at least...

Are consoles working fine for you or are they also affected by the issue?
Ok that’s good then. The scary thing is I vividly remember how laggy and slow my gameplay was back when I was playing killzone 3 in ps3 back in 2014 and I remember the slow sensitivity even if I make controllers x and y 100, which I found really weird. I remember thinking it was all internet issues, never in mind I thought issue is electrical. I remember the sensitivity feeling different from time to time. I don’t use consoles now. And I remember one of my online friends who I played with a lot from Holland had the best kz3 gameplay in terms of smoothness in YouTube, he used to record his videos and upload on YouTube and his gameplay looked 10x better than mine, I remember telling him about how he has zero lag and very smooth gameplay compared to me. I got lag in kz3 in two different locations from 2014-2016, I moved out because I changed places alott and got pc lag in other locations, maybe I have EMI

nyxo100
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Re: Emi issues are more common than you think

Post by nyxo100 » 23 Aug 2022, 17:31

assombrosso wrote:
23 Aug 2022, 15:32
Heimz0r wrote:
23 Aug 2022, 07:48
Mugabi wrote:
23 Aug 2022, 02:06
Heimz0r wrote:
22 Aug 2022, 16:02


damn sucks to hear....exactly the same thing happened to me whenever I bought a new mainboard. It's just impossible to figure this issue out. My next and last step will be to build a completely new system from scratch with everything being brand new (even monitors and cables) and I will try to get as much stuff wireless as I can.
Yes hopefully bro, good luck on that. I think im done with this, I’ll be waiting for a big new fix that might come out in 5 years from now otherwise I have tried all fixes and they all don’t work. Buying a top tier pc for this issue to come back again is a big gamble imo
Yeah it's a huge gamble. Fortunately in Germany you can return everything you buy online for 14 days so I could return it at least...

Are consoles working fine for you or are they also affected by the issue?
Ok that’s good then. The scary thing is I vividly remember how laggy and slow my gameplay was back when I was playing killzone 3 in ps3 back in 2014 and I remember the slow sensitivity even if I make controllers x and y 100, which I found really weird. I remember thinking it was all internet issues, never in mind I thought issue is electrical. I remember the sensitivity feeling different from time to time. I don’t use consoles now. And I remember one of my online friends who I played with a lot from Holland had the best kz3 gameplay in terms of smoothness in YouTube, he used to record his videos and upload on YouTube and his gameplay looked 10x better than mine, I remember telling him about how he has zero lag and very smooth gameplay compared to me. I got lag in kz3 in two different locations from 2014-2016, I moved out because I changed places alott and got pc lag in other locations, maybe I have EMI
i have console xbox360 ps4 the issue is exactly the same as in PC the sensitivity feeel so heavy when the issue is happening and at 3am to 11am the sens feels good again i suspect this a bad electricity thing.

assombrosso
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Re: Emi issues are more common than you think

Post by assombrosso » 23 Aug 2022, 20:07

nyxo100 wrote:
23 Aug 2022, 17:31
assombrosso wrote:
23 Aug 2022, 15:32
Heimz0r wrote:
23 Aug 2022, 07:48
Mugabi wrote:
23 Aug 2022, 02:06

Yes hopefully bro, good luck on that. I think im done with this, I’ll be waiting for a big new fix that might come out in 5 years from now otherwise I have tried all fixes and they all don’t work. Buying a top tier pc for this issue to come back again is a big gamble imo
Yeah it's a huge gamble. Fortunately in Germany you can return everything you buy online for 14 days so I could return it at least...

Are consoles working fine for you or are they also affected by the issue?
Ok that’s good then. The scary thing is I vividly remember how laggy and slow my gameplay was back when I was playing killzone 3 in ps3 back in 2014 and I remember the slow sensitivity even if I make controllers x and y 100, which I found really weird. I remember thinking it was all internet issues, never in mind I thought issue is electrical. I remember the sensitivity feeling different from time to time. I don’t use consoles now. And I remember one of my online friends who I played with a lot from Holland had the best kz3 gameplay in terms of smoothness in YouTube, he used to record his videos and upload on YouTube and his gameplay looked 10x better than mine, I remember telling him about how he has zero lag and very smooth gameplay compared to me. I got lag in kz3 in two different locations from 2014-2016, I moved out because I changed places alott and got pc lag in other locations, maybe I have EMI
i have console xbox360 ps4 the issue is exactly the same as in PC the sensitivity feeel so heavy when the issue is happening and at 3am to 11am the sens feels good again i suspect this a bad electricity thing.
Yes, i remember controller was extremely heavy at times and my fingers feeling exhausted after some gaming. Other issues like hit reg and how enemies look to have this shield that protect them from my bullets. I struggled big time with it at that time and I knew there was something wrong. Best kz3 players were either from holland Poland or eu countries mainly and they didn’t have anyth unique, I remember watching shit load of vids in YouTube. Thought it’s all servers/internet which is obviously impactful but not the biggest reason why I have struggled. I’m glad I found many users who complain about the exact same thing because I thought I was cursed or something.

It could be electricity but maybe not, because The user here says he tried a power station which made no difference overall. I heard one user here saying it could be interference/ radiation that affect all devices generated by something huge.

faiqs
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Re: Emi issues are more common than you think

Post by faiqs » 02 Jan 2023, 06:00

To the question if it happens with consoles or not, I can verify that it does. I play mortal kombat 11 which is completely based on frames. A few frame delay and you are done for - as little as 4 to 5 frames (this means about 60 - 80ms input lag which is crazy.
Since mortal kombat 11 runs on both PC and PS5, i got a Ps5 to test it and guess what? sluggish behavior is still there. And just for avoidance of doubt my tests were only offline. No lan cables no internet involved. I had previously tried on Xbox one as well. Same result but I thought xbox one is an older piece of hardware so tried with Ps5 with the same result.
I have changed 3 countries. I live in Australia and within Australia I have changed 3 accommodations. Always thought it's my internet. Changed 12 ISPs in the last 2 years.
I used to be a CS1.6 pro back in circa 2006 to 2011. I know what the game feels like. I know what CSGO feels like originally.
So the argument that hardware changes make a difference is incorrect. Yes, it may cause lag - bad drivers, wrong cables etc. But I recently checked a gaming laptop AORUS pro gaming laptop worth $5000. That can't be a cheap piece of equipment. Played rocket league on it. I can see that the ball touches my car (even though the car feels so heavy) and the ball moves, the animation reverses and ball just drops and I go through the ball.
CS feels cheap. I die behind the walls. Bots shoot me through the walls even if I run behind it. As if my animation is spread across the time instead of being there in that very second. Then when my death animation runs, my body goes back and I magically die in front of the bot.
In mortal kombat 11, I can repeat kombos. For heaven's sakes, esports tourney occur on Ps5s. They are 120hz high end components too. But when I play with bots, and say I am air borne, my game becomes slow and fall down so slowly and the bot enemy keeps kicking my ass. When I try to launch the opponent in the air, they fall down before I can connect another kombo.
Now don't say that I don't know the game, I have beaten many players online who just memorize a couple of moves (no combos) and simply repeat them and for them it always hits. For example, I do a move and they successfully block it, its their turn. When they hit me and I successfully block it, and I try to take my turn, ITS STILL THEIR TURN ! How !!! Some times I can clearly see that my animation has started, it simply cancels my animation and the opponent starts to thrash me.
It feels different in different games. Strange stuff. But I have tried to explain this because I am sure many people are impacted by this.

One more thing, this issue is much more prevalent than we think it is. And I have a reason to believe that it is electrical. There is so much electrical pollution that a lot of people who start gaming today with all this lag believe that this is how it is. That's it. They don't know about the game as it should be and never get competitive.

The other day I was thinking, that it is purely luck that pros are pros. They don't know bullocks about hardware they just happen to exist at a place where there system doesn't have any issues. I know a level 10 faceit player, he didn't know what XMP or overclocking is. I had a 6700k and a GTX970 Ti back in 2014 with an ASUS ROG and a gold standard cooler master 1000. I was level 4 at max. And back in the day I used to do aces in Dust2. I used to do frags from CT spawn on the short bridge by listening to the rush (if you know you know, literally from inside the CT spawn, I am not talking about CT Ramp or A ramp). Another example is wallbang from B tunnel cabinet and even sometimes on B site. But anyway, what I was saying is that I am sure technology developers partially know this. Take me as an example, built 3 PCs. Different mobos, cards, RAMS etc. Why on earth would the companies want me NOT to do that. I see many people here do that. And then add mechanical keyboards, 360hz LEDs, overly priced sensor-based mice, Zowie, Steel series, why would someone put our ducks in a row when the business is booming! Why would someone buy these if there are no issues at all !

I used to play Cs 1.6 on a Core2duo 2.8Ghz, a 20 dollar keyboard, and a4tech mouse and used to ace the entire teams. I am 33 years old now. The moment I got my first salary I got myself a good PC to finally game (back in 2010). But it all went down hill. 11 years into professional life and I haven't played competitive the way I would want to. I was a SMFC in CSGO. When I came to Australia I was given the rank gold nova 3. I am the same person. I have a much much better equipment. I earn 10 times more than I did. And I don't know how to resolve this!

I still wander around the internet looking for answers. May be ! just may be someone has finally resolved it.
I simply agree with the thread. Do not rule Electricity out. It runs our world. It flicks around 50 times per second. What makes you think it doesn't make a difference? There are things like power factor which industries pay millions to rectify. Power cables carry eddy currents and loads of noise around it too in the form of EMF or EMI. It impacts us on daily basis. Only time will tell how electricity may be impacting us in our daily lives. This is only the tip of the ice berg.

texre
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Re: Emi issues are more common than you think

Post by texre » 02 Jan 2023, 14:50

I play fortnite and Australia has the worst players hands down people with 130 140 ping wins all of their tournaments from different countries. So I can only assume that Australia has the worst power grid on the planet lol. I think east coast of USA and parts of the eu have the best power grid.

wildscorpion73
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Re: Emi issues are more common than you think

Post by wildscorpion73 » 13 Aug 2024, 12:00

Few things that came cross my mind are: poor/no grounding, open cases/glas tempered cases that pick up surrounding EMI, motherboard with poor emi filtering, router and cables are affected by surrounding EMI too ,black PC components which are picking more EMI than white ones. Cause of this problem is one or combination of those numbered things

x7007
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Re: Emi issues are more common than you think

Post by x7007 » 27 Feb 2025, 19:07

any update? we are all stuck on the same place then. could it be a radar signal?

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