[Solved] Wrong Lod Bias | Jitters (Desync) - Damaged I/O System (Chipsets)

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Re: Wrong Lod Bias - Damaged I/O System - End of Input ANOMALY lalggers Sekt Era

Post by fatehasfans » 26 Oct 2024, 18:34

The problem I have with my computer is very real. Call it whatever you like. The mouse doesn't move as it should, all the clicks don't register, same with keyboard. It is not a hardware problem and via process of elimination (using reason as guidance, right?) I have discovered that it is also NOT anything software related either! So, if it is not hardware and it is not software then it is something else, right?

Now, that said however, there are some ideas, relating to hardware, that could make hardware the culprit i.e. the problem exists in all new hardware, an example of this could be some sort of usb 2/3 conflict, something inherent within I/O panel itself - something that is persistent in both the new motherboards I tested. That would make this a 'technology' problem, existing within hardware.

I have not, as of yet, been able to test this issue because --> what if the 'technology' issue exists in all new boards?

Anyway, going back to my original point. If it is not this problem then, again, by process of elimination that would leave other things such as electrical problems, like EMI or grounding.

Count yourself very lucky that you don't have this problem because it is horrible, especially if like to play at a competitive level. One day I went from competing at the very top to struggling to play Vs noobs. Simply because of the problem. Nothing else has changed. It is not muscle memory or anything going on in my head, thank you.
One day computer fine, next day computer not working. Simple, but sadly there has, as of yet, been no solution. But I am glad that I am not alone because I've had my problem for around 4-5 years now and back then the standard solution to 'input lag', which is what this seem to fall under, was the same narrative over and over 'oh it's your hardware (monitor, mouse, mobo, AMD <--> Intel, ram, cpu, hard-drive, gfx, PSU), you need ... blah blah blah', or software related 'oh you need to update/new drivers, windows optimization, bios tweaking, blah blah blah'. After doing all that and still having the issue, the solutions rather quickly dried up so I am so pleased to see that more and more people are afflicted with the same issue as me which means there is hope for a solution, because I would very much love to get back to competing again.

So, don't try to undermine something you don't understand. Just say nothing. It costs you nothing to stay away, thanks.

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Re: Wrong Lod Bias - Damaged I/O System - End of Input ANOMALY lalggers Sekt Era

Post by Z3CrosS » 27 Oct 2024, 01:58

fatehasfans wrote:
26 Oct 2024, 18:34
The problem I have with my computer is very real. Call it whatever you like. The mouse doesn't move as it should, all the clicks don't register, same with keyboard. It is not a hardware problem and via process of elimination (using reason as guidance, right?) I have discovered that it is also NOT anything software related either! So, if it is not hardware and it is not software then it is something else, right?

Now, that said however, there are some ideas, relating to hardware, that could make hardware the culprit i.e. the problem exists in all new hardware, an example of this could be some sort of usb 2/3 conflict, something inherent within I/O panel itself - something that is persistent in both the new motherboards I tested. That would make this a 'technology' problem, existing within hardware.

I have not, as of yet, been able to test this issue because --> what if the 'technology' issue exists in all new boards?

Anyway, going back to my original point. If it is not this problem then, again, by process of elimination that would leave other things such as electrical problems, like EMI or grounding.

Count yourself very lucky that you don't have this problem because it is horrible, especially if like to play at a competitive level. One day I went from competing at the very top to struggling to play Vs noobs. Simply because of the problem. Nothing else has changed. It is not muscle memory or anything going on in my head, thank you.
One day computer fine, next day computer not working. Simple, but sadly there has, as of yet, been no solution. But I am glad that I am not alone because I've had my problem for around 4-5 years now and back then the standard solution to 'input lag', which is what this seem to fall under, was the same narrative over and over 'oh it's your hardware (monitor, mouse, mobo, AMD <--> Intel, ram, cpu, hard-drive, gfx, PSU), you need ... blah blah blah', or software related 'oh you need to update/new drivers, windows optimization, bios tweaking, blah blah blah'. After doing all that and still having the issue, the solutions rather quickly dried up so I am so pleased to see that more and more people are afflicted with the same issue as me which means there is hope for a solution, because I would very much love to get back to competing again.

So, don't try to undermine something you don't understand. Just say nothing. It costs you nothing to stay away, thanks.
On this system affected system will be: no true 4k picture on monitor, freesync will not work, framepacing with jitters (with fps drops they will be noticeable), but you can play games, watch yt/movies, work, renders videos etc, pc will work stable.
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Re: Wrong Lod Bias - Damaged I/O System - End of Input ANOMALY lalggers Sekt Era

Post by dervu » 27 Oct 2024, 05:37

You forgot one thing, many people actually solved it by moving out and don't care about wasting time here.
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Re: Wrong Lod Bias - Damaged I/O System - End of Input ANOMALY lalggers Sekt Era

Post by Z3CrosS » 27 Oct 2024, 05:53

dervu wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 05:37
You forgot one thing, many people actually solved it by moving out and don't care about wasting time here.
Many people actually solved it by moving out - They solved nothing by moving out, they are lying to you.
Don't care about wasting time here - they just cant show anything (proper footages before / after, because they even dont know what they are fixing) and just run out.

You are just a fool if you believe them
- and because of that you will be always in that swamp till you enable Logics of your own brain, and maybe someday after, logics will appear on your next PC.
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Re: Wrong Lod Bias - Damaged I/O System - End of Input ANOMALY lalggers Sekt Era

Post by dervu » 27 Oct 2024, 06:02

Z3CrosS wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 05:53
dervu wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 05:37
You forgot one thing, many people actually solved it by moving out and don't care about wasting time here.
Many people actually solved it by moving out - They solved nothing by moving out, they are lying to you.
Don't care about wasting time here - they just cant show anything (proper footages before / after, because they even dont know what they are fixing) and just run out.

You are just a fool if you believe them
- and because of that you will be always in that swamp till you enable Logics of your own brain, and maybe someday after, logics will appear on your next PC.
I don't have to believe them if I confirmed it myself too, while I did not get any results from your solution.

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Re: Wrong Lod Bias - Damaged I/O System - End of Input ANOMALY lalggers Sekt Era

Post by Z3CrosS » 27 Oct 2024, 06:35

dervu wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 06:02
Z3CrosS wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 05:53
dervu wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 05:37
You forgot one thing, many people actually solved it by moving out and don't care about wasting time here.
Many people actually solved it by moving out - They solved nothing by moving out, they are lying to you.
Don't care about wasting time here - they just cant show anything (proper footages before / after, because they even dont know what they are fixing) and just run out.

You are just a fool if you believe them
- and because of that you will be always in that swamp till you enable Logics of your own brain, and maybe someday after, logics will appear on your next PC.
I don't have to believe them if I confirmed it myself too, while I did not get any results from your solution.
Sure, why not, sometime is better not do anything, wait/think and just enjoy what you have. Overall do you think that by moving out on new location and other shits from "anomality sekt" on PC will miraculously appear monitor tasks in Event viewer or/and fast flash/cmd popup on startup or/and proper output image on monitor with working freesync technology and perfect framepacing, so basically new PC? Pff its 2024y and you believe to some people with brain structure from 1950y. For example ChristophSmaul1337 which wrote funny things here, that he fixed by switching PSU or what he does with electricity, he did not fixed anything. This thing not "heals" by electricity, not by humidifiers, not by irions, not by forest, not by holy water. Maybe you are not a fool or a fool, but you are a victim of that sekt, like many others men.

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I edited my posts to remove Doubling info, for people who will go here and will read it, to reduce as much doubled info as possible... to shorten this topic.
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Re: Wrong Lod Bias - Damaged I/O System - End of Input ANOMALY lalggers Sekt Era

Post by Slender » 27 Oct 2024, 07:53

ChristophSmaul1337 hit you the hardest, didn't he? have you seen his problems in online games?
You persistently ignore 2 things: 1) A PC in another place can work well (yes, no evidence), but they are not needed when we are talking about such a problem as input / output lag, a PC in another place works and I drove my PC myself to another place where he worked completely differently. 2) At night, input lag and smoothness become better. (although I don't think you'll notice it on a 60hz TV). These things have nothing to do with what you are trying to argue here.
If we take your "evidence" at face value, it means that the PC cannot work anywhere else and that it cannot work well at night, but this is not true. If you search, you will find people who have solved their problems by moving.
How can a person who has been playing on a 60hz TV for 10 years draw any conclusion about the delay?
Until you show 2 pcs, one is working and the other is not. and show with NUMBERS that the non-working PC is 0, but the working PC is 1. This will be PROOF. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim, but at this point everything you said is speculation.
you ignore the fact of the influence of electricity, which prevents you from being objective. The quality of electricity directly affects the quality of sound, and you won’t believe it, at night the sound as well as the clarity of the picture becomes better. Or did the microprocessor in my DAC also die?
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Re: Wrong Lod Bias - Damaged I/O System - End of Input ANOMALY lalggers Sekt Era

Post by Z3CrosS » 27 Oct 2024, 10:47

Slender wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 07:53
ChristophSmaul1337 hit you the hardest, didn't he? have you seen his problems in online games?
You persistently ignore 2 things: 1) A PC in another place can work well (yes, no evidence), but they are not needed when we are talking about such a problem as input / output lag, a PC in another place works and I drove my PC myself to another place where he worked completely differently. 2) At night, input lag and smoothness become better. (although I don't think you'll notice it on a 60hz TV). These things have nothing to do with what you are trying to argue here.
If we take your "evidence" at face value, it means that the PC cannot work anywhere else and that it cannot work well at night, but this is not true. If you search, you will find people who have solved their problems by moving.
How can a person who has been playing on a 60hz TV for 10 years draw any conclusion about the delay?
Until you show 2 pcs, one is working and the other is not. and show with NUMBERS that the non-working PC is 0, but the working PC is 1. This will be PROOF. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim, but at this point everything you said is speculation.
you ignore the fact of the influence of electricity, which prevents you from being objective. The quality of electricity directly affects the quality of sound, and you won’t believe it, at night the sound as well as the clarity of the picture becomes better. Or did the microprocessor in my DAC also die?
https://youtu.be/n5a6mXkBU-Y?si=X62VAmsQHU5qO88G&t=12
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Re: Wrong Lod Bias - Damaged I/O System - End of Input ANOMALY lalggers Sekt Era

Post by 1000WATT » 27 Oct 2024, 12:55

Z3CrosS wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 10:47
https://youtu.be/WZstKRcdZks?t=167
Please tell me more. How does removing pci express controller change the display of cloud library. I'm too stupid to understand this myself. I ask for help)
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Re: Wrong Lod Bias - Damaged I/O System - End of Input ANOMALY lalggers Sekt Era

Post by Z3CrosS » 28 Oct 2024, 02:33

1000WATT wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 12:55
Z3CrosS wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 10:47
https://youtu.be/WZstKRcdZks?t=167
Please tell me more. How does removing pci express controller change the display of cloud library. I'm too stupid to understand this myself. I ask for help)
If you not understand why these changes happens, there is no point me to explain, because even if i do, it would give nothing for you at the end + tons of information exists in google if you want to be aknowledged (some tags for you: Soc, north bridge, south bridge, root complex, i/o die). So i will spell it short:
In that video moment, there, lies your wetty PC dreams.
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