Did some looking around at PC latency. read a few threads here. Made a difference.

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Anonymous768114

Did some looking around at PC latency. read a few threads here. Made a difference.

Post by Anonymous768114 » 19 Nov 2024, 20:18

In 2017 I was a Legendary Eagle Master in CSGO with a 120hz Viewsonic VX2268WM.

The hardware.

Intel XEON E5640 @ 4.3ghz
16GB DDR3 @ 2133mhz CL10
R9 Fury.

Back then everything felt so perfect.

I upgraded and took a break from CS too, I was on a Ryzen 2600X, 16GB DDR4 3000mhz CL15, RX 5700 XT.
I always played bad on that setup, I just chalked it up to me taking a break.
I upgraded to a 5800X, 32GB 3733mhz DDR3 CL17 and RX 6900 XT.
Same thing, trash at CS, can't win most gun fights, get mad, uninstall, play something else.
Upgraded to 5800X3D and RX 7900 XT. BENQ XL2746S Same issue, nothing changed and we are now into the release of CS2.

I sold off my overkill PC and off loaded the BENQ, now using a Gigabyte M27Q and went for a 14600K, 32GB 3200mhz CL22 RAM, Gigabyte B760 DS3H AX D4, RX 6800.

Same issue, although by now I was aware my RAM is seriously slow stuff.

I upgraded my RAM yesterday to TeamGroup T-Force Xtreem ARGB 4000mhz CL18.

I was not happy with my results, I scored 16,233 in the CPU test of Timespy with the Crucial RAM and only 16,942 with the T-Force.
I was not happy with the results so tightened the crap out of the timings.

I changed from 18-24-24-50-70 to 18-22-22-46-68 both at 1T CMDR.

Then changed.

TRRD_S from 9 to 6

TRRD_L from 9 to 6

tFAW from 16 to 8

tRFC from 1044 to 530

Scored 17,795 in the CPU benchmark...





Applied the tweaks to MSI mode. Found in a video already posted on Blur Busters.

Played a couple of vcasual games, everything hits, I get called a cheater.

Now, I don't agree with every bit of woo thing out there, I like to try logical things that have a practical application, both reducing latency in the CPU / RAM and optimizing the readiness of certain things in the OS could change things. Intel CPU's inherently have lower latency than Ryzen altogether.

It seems it did, I was accused of cheating by my own team, this is likely because they are the ones also having Desync issues, where on their screen, I likely look like I am reacting inhumanly to some shots. Noticed also peakers advantage for myself, rather than the team against me, in both stationary scenarios and me being aggro.

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Re: Did some looking around at PC latency. read a few threads here. Made a difference.

Post by TN_fun » 21 Nov 2024, 07:05

I don't get it. You just changed your RAM yesterday and you think it fixed all your problems? :lol:

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Re: Did some looking around at PC latency. read a few threads here. Made a difference.

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Anonymous768114

Re: Did some looking around at PC latency. read a few threads here. Made a difference.

Post by Anonymous768114 » 22 Nov 2024, 01:19

TN_fun wrote: ↑
21 Nov 2024, 07:05
I don't get it. You just changed your RAM yesterday and you think it fixed all your problems? :lol:
When every time you attempted to see if things could be different for years and suddenly it's awesome again from years of not, that's more than "Thinking" That's knowing.

Let's hope it lasts though.

The Intel XEON machine was the most consistent PC I had, I can't explain well, but everything made sense, everyone was on the same level playing field and yes it made the game easy, as in I could understand at the time why some top tier players, Global + said that there are skill gaps but getting to Global is easy.

This all falls apart when your system is at fault for handicapping you.

I will tell you my history, I was not a competitive gamer, I started on PC at the age of 20 in 2010, just left the army and started building my own computers because at that time I had a passion for it rather I had no clue what I was doing though.

This was the first time we had internet also.

So I had a computer with a Phenom II x4 955 4GB, 1333mhz GEIL Black Dragon & 9800 GTX+ I was playing the likes of COD MW2, BFBC2, Borderlands, Race Driver GRID, Resident Evil 5, Mirror's Edge etc.

Then I got into the nerdy side of computers, I was a member on Tom's Hardware for 3 years and gained a lot of knowledge, I even competed in some overclocking clubs, got the Phenom II to 4.15ghz which for that chip is a big OC.

Moved to a Core i5 2500K, 8GB G.Skillk Ripjaws 1600mhz, EVGA GTX 480 SSC.
Battlefield 3, BFBC2, Black Ops were my games, with some like RUSE, Command & Conquer games etc.

CSGO was out but I was not playing it, back then all I cared about were graphics and the new stuff coming out.

I started playing in 2014. I learned to overclock a monitor, the ACER 223HQ display I had could do 74hz, I started in Silver II.
Made my way to LEM by 2017 with improved keyboard and mice, hardware and that Viewsonic 120hz display I eventually bought.
That HW upgrade got me from MG1 to LEM.


Now... I am Silver Elite Master on CS2 maps and a rating of 7k. Even though I am not rubbish at CS, the whole system makes me feel I am trash. And ego's of other people tell me I am trash, so the only other way is to stop playing because who cares?
I am now at 12k just from RAM tuning.
These are huge skill placement differences.

When you all of a sudden have a completely different game happening when all you did was buy new RAM and tune it, yeah that's how people come to conclusions.

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Re: Did some looking around at PC latency. read a few threads here. Made a difference.

Post by TN_fun » 22 Nov 2024, 09:41

Hey man, I'm happy for you. Just don't be shy to tell me if it all suddenly goes bad in a few days. You can talk about it in this thread, every few days. If it's still that good. Say it.

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Re: Did some looking around at PC latency. read a few threads here. Made a difference.

Post by AudAmerica » 22 Nov 2024, 10:31

The military teaches you to obey, the self-righteous guy on TOM denies electrical input lag-----software does not affect input lag in any way, if you get a temporary effect through software adjustment, it proves that you have some kind of electrical problem, the stronger the effect, the more serious the electrical problem, adjusting RAM can "rescue" part of the PC from electrical interference, but over time, the conducted interference and radiated interference from the electrical will re-stress your PC
Your long speech only illustrates one problem------------your game is input lag again, and you are very eager to adjust it again.

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Re: Did some looking around at PC latency. read a few threads here. Made a difference.

Post by dervu » 22 Nov 2024, 12:04

To be clear, input lag can be affected by software changes, but it's things like nvidia reflex etc. What you mean, is that ordinary changes of some random settings don't affect PC in a way where you could feel anything if everything is workins as it should.
Ryzen 7950X3D / MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio / ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS / 2x16GB DDR5@6000 G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB / Dell Alienware AW3225QF / Logitech G PRO X2 SUPERSTRIKE / SkyPAD Glass 3.0 / Wooting 60HE / DT 700 PRO X || EMI Input lag issue survivor (source removed) 8-)

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Re: Did some looking around at PC latency. read a few threads here. Made a difference.

Post by AudAmerica » 22 Nov 2024, 12:24

dervu wrote: ↑
22 Nov 2024, 12:04
To be clear, input lag can be affected by software changes, but it's things like nvidia reflex etc. What you mean, is that ordinary changes of some random settings don't affect PC in a way where you could feel anything if everything is workins as it should.
Yes, I corrected my words, software adjustment will not have a noticeable effect on input delay, for example, at 0 electrical input delay, turning on and off nvidia reflex and amd anti-lag will hardly make a difference, some people of blurbuster hope to solve the electrical input through adjustment, which cannot solve the problem.

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