50 series can't perform scaling on GPU, should I worry about it?

[Grasshopper85]

I hope this is true.

I can definitely feel added input lag when using display based scaling.

But I have no choice because I have an RTX 5090. On my 4090 I could use GPU based and it is 100% snappier.

[busterblader]

The worst is the crosshair and characters being inacurrate on top of the input lag.

I'll just keep playing Nightreign or other games until it comes out, or skipping CS and other competitive games altogether until summer is over not ruin my faceit 10.


Does this happen when displaying native res btw?

By the way, maybe this would bring some hopes up but Nvidia themselves replied to me and it confirms what Abdelkadr said (still, don't stop the pressure and keep raising the issues in the Driver's threads):

[abdelkadr13]

The worst is the crosshair and characters being inacurrate on top of the input lag.

I'll just keep playing Nightreign or other games until it comes out, or skipping CS and other competitive games altogether until summer is over not ruin my faceit 10.


Does this happen when displaying native res btw?

By the way, maybe this would bring some hopes up but Nvidia themselves replied to me and it confirms what Abdelkadr said (still, don't stop the pressure and keep raising the issues in the Driver's threads):

Ah that is exactly what ive seen. Nice, you put the pressure on them too.

I wonder, if you feel the Input lag and other things on Native Resolution with Display Scaling also? Or only in lower resolutions?
I know, if you play on Native, it shouldnt scale whatsover. But with Windows, Nvidia & Games - you never know.

[EverSurface]

I had PG27AQDP, and AQM. Both had horrible scaling if using lower resolutions. Image is extremely blurry.

I sold them both and just got a 600hz 25" zowie and play at 1728x1080p. Even though its much less ppi, it has much clearer image than using a blurry oled monitor at a lower resolution than their native.

i sold 360hz oled so much motion blur and eyestrain, oled have white color transfer problem 255 255 255 it is so huge vs tn panel u can feal that in games dark games not.... after 1 hour of usage... i got 600hz zowie u can use low resolution looks like native at high sharpness with no gpu scalling 1:1 ratio example 1280x1024 so cool to see.. oled is good in response time but not good in white color and motion blur shakes to much screen when u spray

[busterblader]

Really?

I'd like to try it then. Is this a problem inherant to the oled?

[kyube]

i sold 360hz oled so much motion blur and eyestrain,

This is pure misinformation, steeming from a misunderstanding on how displays work.
The eye strain part can be attributed to the brightness fluctuation caused by the internal capacitance of the voltage driver (~15% brightness drop) or the larger color gamut, that's beside the point.
The claim that "OLED is so much motion blur" is a complete misunderstanding on how sample & hold motion performance scales.



This is how OLEDs scale, depending on refresh rate. (assuming FPS=Hz)
If you are not satisfied with this eye-tracked motion clarity, you can only resort to a LCD with backlight strobing to get =<1ms MPRT (better eye-tracked clarity)
Note: Backlight strobing only solves situation 2B in the 2nd image. This is a common use-case for tracking-heavy games.

oled have white color transfer problem 255 255 255 it is so huge vs tn panel u can feal that in games dark games not.... after 1 hour of usage... i got 600hz zowie u can use low resolution looks like native at high sharpness with no gpu scalling 1:1 ratio example 1280x1024 so cool to see.. oled is good in response time but not good in white color and motion blur shakes to much screen when u spray

No, they don't have "white color transfer problem".... rofl
It's LCD's which have a G2G RT limit.
OLED is not limited by it's G2G RT's at these relatively slow refresh rates. In fact, it can scale perfectly true-to-theory up till 1000Hz.



This is a 3-97% gamma corrected G2G RT heatmap.
It's even worse when you'd measure the RT's with a fixed RGB 5 offset.
You're just not satisfied with the eye-tracked motion clarity of 360Hz. That's all there is to it.

[EverSurface]

dude.. u have no clue about monitors hardware unboxed has not realistic check motion blur.. OLED HAVE WHITE COLOR TRANSFER PROBLEM IS BLURRY MESS. I had qd oled 360hz.. and i sold, eyestrain fatigue everything colors are destroying my eye vision after 9 months.. i sold it. u can not play with HDR more than 40 minutes... flickering is even worse. OLED is good when u watch tv for gaming 0 good. That is why i have benq zowie it is so clear movement.. with motion blur on.. like i was on crt 120hz long time ago and eye strain 0 issue and fatigue.

[EverSurface]

Really?

I'd like to try it then. Is this a problem inherant to the oled?

Yeah oled have so much motion blur like and u are forced to use gsync and vertical sync and flickering is still there if u use HDR after 1 hour u can stop to game. Eye fatigue ... this will no one tell you... my 1st monitor was in 1992 CRT 75hz. 1st lcd va panel 2005... 2nd tn, 3rd again va and after oled... now i back to TN. On benq Zowie colors look better vs oled when i calibrate proper why is better? because i do not get eye fatigue is a 1st reason.

[lextra2]

dude.. u have no clue about monitors

Unfair comparison. You're comparing 360Hz to 540Hz.

Here is a better one:

ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27AQDP -- 2560x1440p 480Hz


BenQ ZOWIE XL2586X -- 1920x1080 540Hz, Overdrive = High

[unconnected]

Hello,

I've got your exact same setup since it went live on sale. It has been 6 months now without gpu scaling, I'm loosing hope. I've tried giving driver feedback, spamming nvidia forum and trying to get in touch with grdrivers team, 0 result.
Last thing to do here is searching for tim or manuel from nvidia, they have public steam profiles (if you manage to get your friends request accepted) @busterblader. Look for nv_tim and pidge2k