No FPS gaming possible

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by ChristophSmaul1337 » 20 Jul 2025, 15:01

LaggyTyp wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 14:49
Unfortunately, I don't know anything about Wireshark.
Ah, no worries. Open Wireshark and select File -> Open. Select the file that was just downloaded from your Fritzbox. You should see the captured packets now. On top, you have a "search bar" that says "Apply a display filter...". Select this and input: "udp.port == 3659" without the quotation marks. This will filter out any UDP packets that are on port 3659, inbound or outbound. Battlefield games since BF3 use port 3659. Now, on top select "Statistics -> I/O Graphs". This opens another window and gives you a nice diagram of all your network traffic. Below the graph you have the filter. First, delete all the preset ones by selecting them and clicking the "-" icon. Next, create a new filter by clicking on the "+" icon. Check "Enabled", "Graph name" set "Inbound to router", "Display filter" you input "udp.dstport == 3659". The column "Y-Axis" governs what's shown. "Packets" displays the amount of packets per interval, "bits" or "bytes" displays the size of the datagrams. You can also do this for outbound traffic towards the game server by adding another filter, checking "Enabled", "Graph name" = "Outbound to server", "Display filter" = "udp.srcport == 3659". Give this graph a different color to differentiate it from the inbound one.

You may then select "Save As..." to create a nice screenshot as I did in the other post.

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by LaggyTyp » 20 Jul 2025, 15:05

Thank you, my brother! I kiss your heart. I'll try it out in the next few days.

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I need a solution. :(

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by ChristophSmaul1337 » 20 Jul 2025, 16:16

LaggyTyp wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 15:05
I need a solution. :(
There is some hella weird stuff going on here. That result doesn't look right AT ALL. Something's terribly off. You've set the test in a way that it should send out 8181 packets. However, it only sent 4417? It shows it spent 111% of time, even though it's 3:00 out of 3:00? There's 4417 packets sent but only 4413 received, yet the result shows 0.0% loss? This is one hell of a result I've not seen before. I'm turbo giga mega hyper ultra surprised this doesn't show up in the game's diagnostic overlay somehow.

One thing upfront, don't even try WiFi, it'll always be worse and you should never use WiFi for gaming scenarios ever. Always use a wired connection.

Sadly I can't tell you what the cause of this is. It might be your ISP, it might be your NIC being borked, it might be Windows settings if you've changed any at this point. You might try one thing that immediately comes to my mind here, it's related to interrupt moderation which I've seen cause issues similar to this before.

Try this: Right-click your windows button in the bottom left, select "Device Manager" or "Geräte-Manager", in the new window find "Network adapters" and double-click on your network adapter. If there's multiple, repeat for all of them. A new window comes up with multiple columns. Find "Advanced" and it should present you with some settings. Find "Interrupt Moderation" and set it to "Disabled". Next, find "Flow Control" and also set it to "Disabled". Last, find any setting that mentions energy saving and disable those. For me, that's "Advanced EEE", "Energy-Efficient Ethernet", "Gigabit Lite", "Green Ethernet" and "Power Saving Mode". After changing all of these, click OK.

Next, go back to your FritzBox Support page where we went earlier. Instead of going to "Paketmitschnitte", scroll down all the way to the bottom and find "Ethernet-Kompatibilität". Check the box that says "EEE (Energy Efficient Ethernet) deaktivieren". Click on "Einstellung übernehmen" after.

If you can't find that setting there, it's probably been moved to the new location in the UI. Go back to the usual FritzBox landing page, click on "Heimnetz" -> "Netzwerk" -> "Netzwerkeinstellungen". You should be able the see and set the EEE status here. Disable it for all the LAN ports.

Try the packet loss test again. If that shows the same result again, you can maybe change the Ethernet cable but that's about as much as I can think of right now.

EDIT: This is what my packetloss test looks like. Yours should be similar to this. Image

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by LaggyTyp » 20 Jul 2025, 17:04

I've tried everything. It's not changing. It's just staying slow? Thanks for your help, brother!

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by ChristophSmaul1337 » 20 Jul 2025, 17:27

What does the result look like when you select a different server, for example UK, and increase the maximum acceptable delay to, let's say, 50ms? It could be the server or the routing to the server, although I doubt it.

Also do you happen to have an external network card lying around? Even a USB one? If you do, install it into your system and see if it's better with that.

If that doesn't help, go into your Windows 11 settings app, on the left click on "Network & Internet", then select "Advanced network settings", and do a network reset. Remember specific quirks and special settings you've set so you can revert them back later. Test again afterwards.

Another thing I've seen once is some RAM weirdness, but that's a really far stretch. Basically, as you probably know, when setting XMP in BIOS the RAM sets the required voltage with it, for example in that one case it should've been 1.45V. However, his motherboard would be lying, showing 1.45v to be apparently set and delieverd, but when probed with a multimeter it only applied 1.43v. That caused a ton of havoc, including internet weirdness and packet loss that was otherwise unexplainable. We could work around it by setting 1.47v in BIOS which resulted in an actual voltage of 1.45v.

However, that was on a very specific ASUS board with an AMD Ryzen CPU and I also believe it was fixed with a BIOS update, so take it with a boatload of salt. Your problems likely won't come from that, but you can of course still try to go into the BIOS and just slap another 0.2v on top of your XMP voltage and just hail-mary it and see if it helps. It likely won't though.

EDIT: To address the other suggestion that came up with peering: You can of course try and call them about it, but I don't think Vodafone has peering problems at the moment, and they never had them in the past. According to PeeringDB, they have 2x 600G peering slots at DE-CIX Frankfurt, 100G at DE-CIX Düsseldorf, and another 100G at DE-CIX Munich, which is excellent. Peering shouldn't be an issue here but you can of course always ask.

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by LaggyTyp » 21 Jul 2025, 06:25

It's crazy.

1.) Freshly installed Windows 11 Pro (+ReviOS)
2.) Obtained all drivers from the manufacturer (Asus, etc.)
3.) Installed browser

= Problem persists

- Other browsers like Chrome, Brave, etc. don't resolve the issue
- Other driver versions don't resolve the issue
- Settings on the FritzBox don't resolve the issue (e.g., packet acceleration)
- It can't be a bug on the website, as it works for everyone else
- I've ruled out a problem with Windows 11 at this point
- It also happens with my Wi-Fi card (the LAN card and the Wi-Fi card + Bluetooth are different components on the motherboard)
- It also happens when I use my phone as a LAN card (USB-C)

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by ChristophSmaul1337 » 21 Jul 2025, 10:54

This is a really hard one to crack. I'm somewhat confident it's a hardware defect somewhere.

As a next step I'd rule out your computer as the source of the problem. Try this: Stand next to your router as close as possible and do the packet loss test with your phone or any other wireless device that isn't your PC. This is to rule out a hardware defect in your PC that somehow doesn't show up in stress / stability tests. Does the result differ or is it roughly the same?

Also please clarify what you mean by this:
LaggyTyp wrote:
21 Jul 2025, 06:25
- It also happens when I use my phone as a LAN card (USB-C)
Like, does your phone act as a literal LAN card, so you use an adapter to plug ethernet into it and it can passthrough the internet via USB-C to your computer? Or is it using the mobile data and acts as a hotspot?

Also, please try a different server like the UK one, and also check the box "Wait 2 seconds before recording results". Report back if the result changes. There is a non-zero percent chance the routing is somehow messed up and that's what's causing the issue. Let's make sure it's not that before we move on to more time-consuming troubleshooting steps.

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by LaggyTyp » 21 Jul 2025, 13:36

I think I've found the problem.

It's Firefox.

I ran Brave, Microsoft Edge, and Firefox side by side, and only Firefox was the test acting up.
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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by ChristophSmaul1337 » 21 Jul 2025, 15:31

LaggyTyp wrote:
21 Jul 2025, 13:36
I think I've found the problem.
It's Firefox.
This does indeed look a lot better. A completely normal result without any anomalies and no packetloss. Perfect! This all but confirms, in my opinion, that there's nothing wrong with your internet connection. There's also nothing wrong with your NIC or your computer hardware. There were good hints that the internet was fine, because you didn't spot anything within the game's HUD that would indicate network problems, and these results all but confirm it.

This effectively eliminates the internet connection as a variable, so I would look at different options and subforums here. It's up to you if you want to participate in them, because as you've seen in this thread, you'll likely be ridiculed for just trying to get help / helping others, but your choice. I'm not going there any more, but others might put themselves through it. I'm reading through it regularly and a real solution for this problem hasn't been found yet. If I'm the person to find something that might help you, I'm making sure to DM you.

Good luck from here on out.

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by LaggyTyp » 21 Jul 2025, 16:08

Thanks for your help!

I've now resubscribed to ExitLag and am testing it with a fresh Windows installation. I just disabled all the options on my I225-V (NIC). Everything else is "ReviOS Stock."

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