No FPS gaming possible

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LaggyTyp
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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by LaggyTyp » 26 Aug 2025, 04:04

Small update:

I've been having a problem with the DOCSIS modulation of a specific channel (DOCSIS 3.1 upload) for several months. The modulation changes 90 to 300 times per day between 512QAM and 32QAM. Mostly, it's 256QAM and 128QAM. We're currently on summer vacation in Germany. Outside of the holidays, it's even worse.

Vodafone claims that it's not a problem for the modulation to change back and forth.

AVM (manufacturer of the FritzBox) says, however, that it is indeed a problem! 1-5 changes per day would be normal (better 0), but not as frequent as in my case.

That would indicate a major problem. The man says there's something wrong with me.

This will now be my ticket to being released from the contract.
Slender wrote:
25 Aug 2025, 10:49
seems like in battlefront 2 ?
I've never played that before.

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themagic
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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by themagic » 26 Aug 2025, 10:54

Don't know if someone tell and if you know already about this ? but here maybe that what you can try in the Fritzbox which you can find in FRITZ!Box Support under Hilfe und Info and scroll down...

Upstream Optimierung
Manuelle Daten eingeben
TACK Count
1
TACK Period in Jiffies
1

Paketbeschleunigung
Paketbeschleunigung
Layer-2-Beschleunigung
Hardware-Beschleunigung

Referenzbeschleunigung
Paketbeschleunigung inaktiv

Which you can try but not much hope cause for me these all settings literally does nothing and dont bring any improvement but maybe for you ... :lol: I already tried everything possible with those Fritzboxes...


But the first Option is exactly what you talk about before here and about Packets bundling:

Upstream-Optimierung" and "TACK Count" relate to network settings, specifically in FRITZ!Box routers, which control how the router sends data packets to reduce latency, particularly for online gaming. The TACK Count determines the maximum number of subsequent acknowledgment (ACK) packets that can be compressed into a single bundle before being sent. Setting the TACK Count to 1, along with the TACK Jiffies to 1, instructs the router to send each individual data packet immediately, rather than waiting to bundle and send multiple packets at once

How does it work?
Default setting:
By default, the FRITZ!Box bundles multiple packets (often four) and sends them as a single unit.
Optimized setting:
By setting the TACK Count and TACK Jiffies to 1, each packet is sent individually and immediately upon receipt.
Why is it used?
Reduced latency:
Sending packets individually minimizes the time they spend in the router, leading to lower latency and better responsiveness.
Improved online gaming:
This setting is particularly beneficial for online gaming, where quick reaction times are crucial.


Pls tell if this makes any change for you and Online Gaming ? and if try change these Options then just Resync Internet (Neu Verbinden) but don't reboot router...cause after reboot these settings like somehow are at default again...Idk why that happens...

LaggyTyp
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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by LaggyTyp » 29 Aug 2025, 12:48

It's an ISP problem.

I had reset everything to default settings. It was working fine for the past few days. Since around 4 p.m. today, it's been running poorly again—as expected. It's the weekend. The weather is bad. Everyone is at home.

My ISP, or rather the technology, is reacting to this and bundling my packets or something. I need 2-3 times as many shots to kill someone again. That hasn't been the case in the past few days.

What I definitely see:
- The ping is increasing slightly
- Opponents are stuttering/jerking

The internet is NOT broken. The DOCSIS system is probably just reacting to the high load and bundling the UDP packets, which is causing these effects.

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by adrian_13371 » 29 Aug 2025, 14:42

LaggyTyp wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 12:48
It's an ISP problem.

I had reset everything to default settings. It was working fine for the past few days. Since around 4 p.m. today, it's been running poorly again—as expected. It's the weekend. The weather is bad. Everyone is at home.

My ISP, or rather the technology, is reacting to this and bundling my packets or something. I need 2-3 times as many shots to kill someone again. That hasn't been the case in the past few days.

What I definitely see:
- The ping is increasing slightly
- Opponents are stuttering/jerking

The internet is NOT broken. The DOCSIS system is probably just reacting to the high load and bundling the UDP packets, which is causing these effects.
" I need 2-3 times as many shots to kill someone " Can you show us some gameplay? I really believe that

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by pracc » 29 Aug 2025, 16:01

LaggyTyp wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 12:48
It's an ISP problem.

I had reset everything to default settings. It was working fine for the past few days. Since around 4 p.m. today, it's been running poorly again—as expected. It's the weekend. The weather is bad. Everyone is at home.

My ISP, or rather the technology, is reacting to this and bundling my packets or something. I need 2-3 times as many shots to kill someone again. That hasn't been the case in the past few days.

What I definitely see:
- The ping is increasing slightly
- Opponents are stuttering/jerking

The internet is NOT broken. The DOCSIS system is probably just reacting to the high load and bundling the UDP packets, which is causing these effects.
it´s called "Kabelschrott". They overbook the segments until nothing works anymore, and then activate a kind of interleaving that makes you think everything is okay. The download and upload arrive in full, but your packets are bundled/slowed down. The cables are only worth the copper. You need fiber optics! Move to another city. Greetings from Germany.

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themagic
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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by themagic » 29 Aug 2025, 16:46

What means this "fast" near Latenz ? has it something to do with fastpath and means interleaving off ? or has nothing to do at all with that ?

Cause i remember that it was written "fast" somewhere back in the days too here but now it shows like 8ms 10ms near Latenz and not more "fast"

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LaggyTyp
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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by LaggyTyp » 29 Aug 2025, 16:58

Absolutely crazy.

1.) I run a speed test (which is even recognized in court)
Result: 2-18 Mbps download and upload

I repeat the test 10 to 15 times

2.) I run a speed test from Vodafone

Suddenly, the internet stabilizes for 1-2 minutes and reaches full bandwidth

After 1-2 minutes, everything breaks again.

I suspect the whole thing is being manipulated. It's supposed to look "good," but at its core, everything is broken.

My packets are 10000000000000% bundled in both directions, and the worst part is that this technology (bundling) is also used with VDSL, mobile networks, etc.

If you're unlucky like me, you simply live in the wrong area.

Yes, it's the state capital.
Yes, the rents are five times higher than in other cities.
Yes, only wealthy people live here.
BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE.

My sister had a house built for €2 million. She pays less on her mortgage than I pay in rent. But I have to live with this junk.

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themagic
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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by themagic » 29 Aug 2025, 17:22

LaggyTyp wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 16:58
Absolutely crazy.

1.) I run a speed test (which is even recognized in court)
Result: 2-18 Mbps download and upload

I repeat the test 10 to 15 times

2.) I run a speed test from Vodafone

Suddenly, the internet stabilizes for 1-2 minutes and reaches full bandwidth

After 1-2 minutes, everything breaks again.

I suspect the whole thing is being manipulated. It's supposed to look "good," but at its core, everything is broken.

My packets are 10000000000000% bundled in both directions, and the worst part is that this technology (bundling) is also used with VDSL, mobile networks, etc.

If you're unlucky like me, you simply live in the wrong area.

Yes, it's the state capital.
Yes, the rents are five times higher than in other cities.
Yes, only wealthy people live here.
BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE.

My sister had a house built for €2 million. She pays less on her mortgage than I pay in rent. But I have to live with this junk.
Okay this now makes sense why even O2 mobile unlimited tarif and Vodafone and 1und1 here dont makes any change at all and on my issue... :lol:

LaggyTyp
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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by LaggyTyp » 29 Aug 2025, 17:27

I think this shit only starts when a certain threshold (usage) is exceeded. It's been really fine for the last few days, and suddenly it's worse than it has been in weeks. I'd gladly throw the PC out the window.

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Re: No FPS gaming possible

Post by ChristophSmaul1337 » 30 Aug 2025, 02:50

themagic wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 16:46
What means this "fast" near Latenz ? has it something to do with fastpath and means interleaving off ?
Yes, that's exactly what it means. "Fast" means "fastpath" and it's the colloquial term for interleaving being turned off.

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